European Court of Justice strikes blow to EU-US data pact

Very wise decision. The USA is not to be trusted.

I like the ruling, but for a slightly different reason.

I am against companies sharing (or selling) customer data AT ALL, for any reason.

The article states the ruling was out of concern that US Intelligence agencies would access the data if it was in the USA. Bull-crap.

If the NSA (and friends) want the data, they are going to access it where it is, either via agreements with their fellow organizations in Europe, or just hacking in and getting it themselves.

But, frankly, I would be more concerned with what big corporations in the USA do with your data than what the NSA and the other evil TLA (three letter acronym) US Government agencies do with it.

European Court of Justice strikes blow to EU-US data pact

Very wise decision. The USA is not to be trusted.

I like the ruling, but for a slightly different reason.

I am against companies sharing (or selling) customer data AT ALL, for any reason.

The article states the ruling was out of concern that US Intelligence agencies would access the data if it was in the USA. Bull-crap.

If the NSA (and friends) want the data, they are going to access it where it is, either via agreements with their fellow organizations in Europe, or just hacking in and getting it themselves.

But, frankly, I would be more concerned with what big corporations in the USA do with your data than what the NSA and the other evil TLA (three letter acronym) US Government agencies do with it.

In the "cloud" you have no idea where your data are!
Most likely the US but it could also be in Russia.
Or Sweden:)

European Court of Justice strikes blow to EU-US data pact

Very wise decision. The USA is not to be trusted.

I like the ruling, but for a slightly different reason.

I am against companies sharing (or selling) customer data AT ALL, for any reason.

The article states the ruling was out of concern that US Intelligence agencies would access the data if it was in the USA. Bull-crap.

If the NSA (and friends) want the data, they are going to access it where it is, either via agreements with their fellow organizations in Europe, or just hacking in and getting it themselves.

But, frankly, I would be more concerned with what big corporations in the USA do with your data than what the NSA and the other evil TLA (three letter acronym) US Government agencies do with it.

In the "cloud" you have no idea where your data are!
Most likely the US but it could also be in Russia.
Or Sweden:)

Very true.

Plus, specific to more recent versions of M$ Windoze...

Starting with 7 and getting progressively worse to 10, they send 'telemetry' back to M$...

Do you *know* what is in it?
Do you *trust* M$ with potentially a complete record of *everything* you do on your computer?
What is to stop the NSA from just asking M$ (officially or even informally) for said info?

And don't think Linux is any safer. Parts of the security system on Linux is *written* by the NSA.

Backdoors, anyone?

If you put information on a computer nowadays, you can safely assume that just about everyone you don't wish to have access to it, in fact does.

You have two choices at this point in time.

Be super-paranoid and stay off of *anyone's* computer system (not really possible)...

Or...

Relax and enjoy the aftermath of the death of privacy. It has already happened, sadly, quite a number of years ago.

I agree with that point, and have stated so in the Win 10 thread in NC.
There are things we can do at this time to retain a little bit of privacy, but 5 years, 10 years, 20 years from now, it will be completely impossible regardless of what computer system you use, if any at all.

Many of us can partially buck the trend for now with a lot of effort, but in the long run, privacy is extinct.

Steve

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Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
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In the "cloud" you have no idea where your data are!
Most likely the US but it could also be in Russia.
Or Sweden:)

Very true.
Plus, specific to more recent versions of M$ Windoze...
Starting with 7 and getting progressively worse to 10, they send 'telemetry' back to M$...
Do you *know* what is in it?
Do you *trust* M$ with potentially a complete record of *everything* you do on your computer?
What is to stop the NSA from just asking M$ (officially or even informally) for said info?
And don't think Linux is any safer. Parts of the security system on Linux is *written* by the NSA.
Backdoors, anyone?
If you put information on a computer nowadays, you can safely assume that just about everyone you don't wish to have access to it, in fact does.
You have two choices at this point in time.
Be super-paranoid and stay off of *anyone's* computer system (not really possible)...
Or...
Relax and enjoy the aftermath of the death of privacy. It has already happened, sadly, quite a number of years ago.

When reading and accepting the EULA thats is now about 47 pages for Windows 10 you have agreed to have no privacy at all.