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Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34253 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-) It would be nice if you would choose a different wording. The read me files are correct and it is hard work also. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-) Just shuffle the words a bit ;) readme files confuse Stupid more than help :-) Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-) In the earliest installers, I discovered that users could not see a combo box dropdown selection, and would click next without making the proper selection. After making some screenshots highlighting/pointing out where to click, facepalms ensued. I changed it to radiobuttons (which I think are totally still there, with more of them.) Advice pm'd to me was to make a big flashing button labelled something like "If you want apples click the banana!" "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-) What's wrong with stupid mate ! All I will say is yes it's hard work and probably because there are some things that are not clear and could be explained a little better . eg: -hp ? do you use a number 1 to 5 or do you use a word ? Jason I haven't found any drop down Menus yet ,some links but nada on the drop downs :-). Don't worry I'm not whinging nothing worse I spose than writing a Standard all can understand , I hated it at work too when asked to do it and you can imagine how hard that was for me a Dyslexic. Yes I did have to do it and yes I tried every trick in the book to get out of it . 50 or 100 drafts later here's ya new Standard don't ask me to do it again grrrrrrr and off I would storm :-) |
BilBg Send message Joined: 27 May 07 Posts: 3720 Credit: 9,385,827 RAC: 0 |
I changed it to radiobuttons (which I think are totally still there, with more of them.) Yes, the selection is by radio-buttons The CPU caps are auto-detected and what is not supported is grey-out The best is pre-selected The following pic I get just now from Lunatics_Win32_v0.43b_setup.exe - this is the pre-selection (on my CPU - AMD Athlon II X3 455), I didn't change anything: Â Â - ALF - "Find out what you don't do well ..... then don't do it!" :) Â |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
Sorry guys looks like I figured it out error gone ....Stupid readme files confuse more than help :-) If you are unhappy with our documentation, I suggest you try to contribute to improving it, instead of calling it stupid. That reflects more on you than it does on our skill levels in writing the darn things. And I'm pretty sure I wrote several times to ask here if anybody needed help. I have no idea how much time Mike has invested in helping people fine tune their rigs, or how he goes and chases good standard settings. Or writes that intricate documentation in the first place. That's a lot of time invested into this project. So don't you go bad mouth him. So you are dyslexic and not only have trouble expressing yourself but also struggle with understanding. Ok, no probs, 'mate'. We can invest even more of our time in trying to explain more simple. We can deal with the typos. But what I am not prepared to put up with, 'mate' is when you start to use 'words'. That is no way to behave towards someone who is trying to help you. Remember we are all volunteers. So try to be a little more courteous, please. A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
I would not like to write the documentation! I agree that it is a little unclear and a bit to technical and takes some reading to figure it out, BUT the info is there to be had. It would be impossible to document what settings are best for each GPU / CPU combination. AMD/Intel/Nvidia/CountLessOthers = endless possibilities. |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1849 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
If you are unhappy with our documentation, I suggest you try to contribute to improving it, instead of calling it stupid. William, Mike, can't say I've looked closely enough at your docs enough to say whether they're decent or not, but I think I've usually muddled through. If you're taking names for volunteers to write docs, sign me up. I've certainly done enough of that over the years, and would love to find a way to give back. Jim ... |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Now there's the spirit jimbo! "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
If you are unhappy with our documentation, I suggest you try to contribute to improving it, instead of calling it stupid. The biggest problem with adding a readme file, or posting the thing in the forums is formatting. Before you know it it's a wall of text, and it isn't clear enough where one thing starts and ends. I already get lost in the thing, but then I don't (have to) use it that much. I've had that problem when writing the 'When requesting help...' thread on the BOINC forums, and quickly went and added all separate parts in separate posts, then used the first post as a general explanation plus index. Yes, it's still somewhat unclear, but until we manage to fully integrate wikipedia into the forums, there's no other way (Hey Jason, whatdayathunk? :)). In this case though, you ought to be able to add it to a wikipedia page (the BOINC User Manual for example), and just use an index to point to the parts of the documentation. That would go a ways towards making it more clear. Else, when wanting to use a readme file, make it a PDF and add one paragraph per page into that. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
I agree with all that Jord, though there is the knob-wall to contend with. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
William Send message Joined: 14 Feb 13 Posts: 2037 Credit: 17,689,662 RAC: 0 |
I was going to say why are we having this discussion in panic, but on closer look it certainly is a topic to panic over! Thanks all. Now how do I earmark these posts for future reference? (i.e. when working on the next installer and I need the advice?) edit: why do I keep running into buglets? try hitting quote or reply when you are _not_ logged in -> https://setiathome.berkeley.edu//extra_arg_post.html 404 not found. mhm. extra / there? A person who won't read has no advantage over one who can't read. (Mark Twain) |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14649 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
Quick update of last month's figures - we processed 199 tapes in November, 195 re-processing previous tapes, and 4 new ones I hadn't seen before. No real change to the conclusions, then. Rolling forward my estimate of how much MB work has been processed with the SaH v7 app (including autocorrelations), and how much might conceivably remain to be reprocessed. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
edit: why do I keep running into buglets? try hitting quote or reply when you are _not_ logged in -> https://setiathome.berkeley.edu//extra_arg_post.html 404 not found. mhm. extra / there? Unless you reported it and someone fixed it, I don't see that. I get the normal log in screen for both. Or is it after you logged in? |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
Just tested that here. totally broken on chrome at least. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
I used Firefox 42.0 and earlier went immediately to the log in page. Now I also get the error. I also see that the URL goes from an apparent HTTP on any thread to HTTPS on the error. Weird. |
jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0 |
lol, have to love the non-deterministic style of programming these days. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. |
Jimbocous Send message Joined: 1 Apr 13 Posts: 1849 Credit: 268,616,081 RAC: 1,349 |
SSP is starting to look a bit scary when it comes to tapes in queue ... |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
edit: why do I keep running into buglets? try hitting quote or reply when you are _not_ logged in -> https://setiathome.berkeley.edu//extra_arg_post.html 404 not found. mhm. extra / there? This is now fixed, with thanks to David looking into that. The HTTP->HTTPS links could be a side-effect of me using Firefox 42.0 to test. Perhaps that it overzealously tries to put all links to HTTPS. Edit: no, the HTTP->HTTPS thing is what everyone will now see, as log in has been made HTTPS for everyone. However, when coming to the forums using HTTP, it'll return to HTTP after log in. New code. |
Phil Burden Send message Joined: 26 Oct 00 Posts: 264 Credit: 22,303,899 RAC: 0 |
SSP is starting to look a bit scary when it comes to tapes in queue ... Oddly, a couple of the AP splitters keep popping online, but nothing AP-wise is being split. P. |
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