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Message 1732600 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 18:24:29 UTC
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I come to the politics board and I find a long thread about the Oregon shooting. That was expected and that's ok because that's something that should be discussed.

But I wonder, where's the thread about the bombing of a MSF clinic in Kundunz, where 22 ppl (10 MSF workers and 12 patients, three of 'em children) have been killed by US military?

Maybe I couldn't find it because it has some strange title (like my thread here). If that's the case, pls give me a link.
But if not, then I'm curious: Why is something like that not discussed here?
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Message 1732608 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 18:50:54 UTC - in response to Message 1732600.  
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I come to the politics board and I find a long thread about the Oregon shooting. That was expected and that's ok because that's something that should be discussed.

But I wonder, where's the thread about the bombing of a MSF clinic in Kundunz, where 22 ppl (10 MSF workers and 12 patients, three of 'em children) have been killed by US military?

Maybe I couldn't find it because it has some strange title (like my thread here). If that's the case, pls give me a link.
But if not, then I'm curious: Why isn't something like that not discussed here?

Yes. Why not.
To much of a hot potatoe perhaps...
Five Questions About the Bombing of a Hospital in Kunduz run by Médecins Sans Frontières.
http://www.newyorker.com/news/amy-davidson/five-questions-about-the-bombing-of-a-hospital-in-kunduz
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34458270
https://twitter.com/MSF?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

"Not just an attack on our hospital – it was an attack on the Geneva Conventions. It cannot be tolerated."
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Message 1732613 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 19:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 1732600.  

I come to the politics board and I find a long thread about the Oregon shooting. That was expected and that's ok because that's something that should be discussed.

But I wonder, where's the thread about the bombing of a MSF clinic in Kundunz, where 22 ppl (10 MSF workers and 12 patients, three of 'em children) have been killed by US military?

Maybe I couldn't find it because it has some strange title (like my thread here). If that's the case, pls give me a link.
But if not, then I'm curious: Why isn't something like that not discussed here?
Because you didn't start the thread? No, I'm not trying to be snarky, but someone has to start the discussion. I can't read others people's minds and tell you why none of them have started a thread. All I can speculate is none of the talk radio hosts is making hay with it so it doesn't enter the ditto head mind as a subject.

Terrible situation. Someone didn't do all the cross checks.
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Message 1732618 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 19:07:36 UTC - in response to Message 1732613.  

[Because you didn't start the thread?


Pretty much. If you don't see the topic, then start one. Not all of us can keep up with everything happening in the world. Bring it up if you think it is important. If the thread is a duplicate, the Mods will merge the two.


As for the topic, this is the first I heard of it and will check it out as soon as I get a chance.
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Message 1732675 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 22:44:19 UTC - in response to Message 1732654.  

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.

Wow, you mean you believe that the stain on the blue dress effect doesn't apply to our current POTUS?! Those are some mighty fine pharmaceuticals you have.
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Message 1732679 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 22:57:57 UTC - in response to Message 1732654.  

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.

Its made the Canadian news, so I was surprised that no one had mentioned it.
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Message 1732691 - Posted: 7 Oct 2015, 23:59:48 UTC - in response to Message 1732654.  

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.

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Message 1732718 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 3:17:13 UTC - in response to Message 1732654.  
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A thread on this subject hasn't been started because the main news outlets and those who support the current POTUS (same thing) are not continuously talking about it. They know he's ultimately responsible and everybody in this group is just hoping it gets forgotten as soon as possible because they don't want him in any negative light.

A thread on this subject hasn't been started because those who don't support the current POTUS are just rolling our eyes because if one of us brings it up, most of you in here will most likely pick someone in the chain of command somewhere between the pilot and the Joint Chiefs of Staff and blame them and not the POTUS.

Now, if it were a republican in the white house, it would be 24/7 news coverage and people would be picketing everywhere to impeach him because he's a war monger and a baby/woman killer and he's wasting tax payer money on needless wars.


That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
My cable TV has been out a MONTH (no, not because I didn't pay the bill!) and I know about this.
So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?
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Message 1732724 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 3:30:50 UTC - in response to Message 1732718.  

So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?

The U.N.?
Since when have they done something useful?
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Message 1732730 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 4:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1732718.  

That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
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So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?
UN, no; International Criminal Court in the Hague, even though they won't be able to get the perpetrators because the USA refuses to allow jurisdiction.
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Message 1732739 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 5:03:45 UTC - in response to Message 1732730.  
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That's a bunch of horse manure and you ought to know it.
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So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?
UN, no; International Criminal Court in the Hague, even though they won't be able to get the perpetrators because the USA refuses to allow jurisdiction.

Mind you. Russia refuses to allow jurisdiction as well in their cases.
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Message 1732743 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 5:15:51 UTC - in response to Message 1732724.  

So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?

The U.N.?
Since when have they done something useful?

Just giving further evidence that I knew about this despite Guy's/Brutus' claim: "Dcotors without Borders", I believe, has called for it to be considered a war crime to be investigated by the U.N.
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Message 1732751 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 5:44:39 UTC - in response to Message 1732743.  

So, should the U.N. investigate this as a war crime?

The U.N.?
Since when have they done something useful?

Just giving further evidence that I knew about this despite Guy's/Brutus' claim: "Dcotors without Borders", I believe, has called for it to be considered a war crime to be investigated by the U.N.

Yes. Doctors without Borders.
But help from the UN?
https://twitter.com/MSF?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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Message 1732762 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 6:18:26 UTC
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This was in the news here every single day since it happened. So I hope you understand that I'm a bit surprised to see ppl living in the US of A saying that they haven't heard anything of this.

Should it be investigated? Hell yeah! It's murder, isn't it?
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Message 1732768 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 6:37:20 UTC - in response to Message 1732762.  

This was in the news here every single day since it happened. So I hope you understand that I'm a bit surprised to see ppl living in the US of A saying that they haven't heard anything of this.

Should it be investigated? Hell yeah! It's murder, isn't it?

I think the proper term is Crime Against Humanity!
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Message 1732772 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 7:11:25 UTC

I don't read the papers or watch TV news but I do read the headlines online. I didn't see anything about this incident until this thread was started.
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Message 1732781 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 8:01:11 UTC

I can confirm that the BBC have been covering this ever since it happened on Saturday - including all the various twists and turns in the American explanations. In fact, it's now dropped down the news running order, since Obama's formal apology last night - we've had other things to fill its place, like Syria, domestic politics, and a police killing.

BBC summary, for those who are catching up.
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Message 1732783 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 8:09:59 UTC - in response to Message 1732772.  

I don't read the papers or watch TV news but I do read the headlines online. I didn't see anything about this incident until this thread was started.

I have not seen anything about this incident either until now.
But news from Afganistan are probably not so interesting to publish anymore.
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Message 1732867 - Posted: 8 Oct 2015, 14:43:52 UTC

This airstrike will be hard to attribute to "whoops we made a mistake". Back in the days of LBJ during the Viet Nam war a decision such as this came from the white house. But I get the feeling that the current POTUS isn't so interested in the day to day management of the troops. I'm guessing some poor Major or Col. will get hung out to dry.
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