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Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
So your right to walk around and not get shot is trumped by a red neck idiot that wants a gun ??? ok got it you Americans don't understand what freedom actually is |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
So your right to walk around and not get shot is trumped by a red neck idiot that wants a gun ??? quote from John Howard "it is a fundamental right of every person to be able to walk the streets without the threat of being shot or to feel intimidated" In response to someone saying "what about our right to have a gun " Ergo the right to be able to walk the street without feeling threatened by someone with a gun or shot trupm's the right for someone to own a weapon Only quoting our prime minister Clyde and he has said it again only 2 days ago on the anniversary of the Port Arthur massacre and was echoed by the current P.M Malcolm Turnbull and the current ALP leader Bill Shorten. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
So your right to walk around and not get shot is trumped by a red neck idiot that wants a gun ??? Here's a few scenarios to ponder: [1] I'm walking down a street and some idiot jumps out and demands my wallet at gun point. I'm going to try to fight back (without a gun) and get shot and maybe killed. [2] I'm walking down a street and some idiot jumps out and demands my wallet at gun point. I'm going to pretend to reach for my wallet but instead pull out a gun and shoot him in the kneecap and kick his gun away, then pull out my cell and call the cops. [3] Or some idiot wants you girlfriend's/wife's purse... And don't say you're just gonna let them have the wallet or purse. Yeah, your girlfriend/wife will really think highly of you for letting the guy have her purse... NOT. Besides, you'll probably still end up getting shot and maybe killed anyway... ;) There is no utopia. What you stated above only happens in a utopian society. Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
quote from John Howard "it is a fundamental right of every person to be able to walk the streets without the threat of being shot or to feel intimidated"So lock the f'n crazies up who would do such things. Problem solved. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
[1] I'm walking down a street and some idiot jumps out and demands my wallet at gun point. I'm going to try to fight back (without a gun) and get shot and maybe killed Says a lot don't it Dunb and Dumber , "Take the wallet mate it's not worth you going to jail for murder or me being dead" would be my response . [2] I'm walking down a street and some idiot jumps out and demands my wallet at gun point. I'm going to pretend to reach for my wallet but instead pull out a gun and shoot him in the kneecap and kick his gun away, then pull out my cell and call the cops. In your utopian world you may get away with it .In the real world the crim would see the gun before you had it all the way out and you would be dead but I spose if your lucky he may be short sighted and stupid enough to not think you will have a gun or see it coming out . [3] Or some idiot wants you girlfriend's/wife's purse... And don't say you're just gonna let them have the wallet or purse. Yeah, your girlfriend/wife will really think highly of you for letting the guy have her purse... NOT. Besides, you'll probably still end up getting shot and maybe killed anyway... ;) why would I have her purse or handbag in the first place , you saying I'm a tranny or something and like to walk around with a woman purse or handbag . She would also not give a rats ... I'm shore she would rather have me alive than dead plus most crim's do a snatch and run if there after a woman's handbag or purse she is holding they don't pull a gun and ask you for it . Maybe you should come down under and you will see that it's very safe to walk around you won't get shot like the Australian that was just jogging . He wasn't even robed |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
[ snip ]- Darth, may I call you Darth? Darth, obviously you are here just to argue for argument's sake. I'm done. I don't have to go "down under" to feel safe walking down the street, I can do it right here where I live. And I don't even carry. :) The guy was killed because he wasn't dressed? Sad... :( ;) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Siran d'Vel'nahr I don't care what you call me but I'm shore you my name but Darth is fine . If you use very silly situations as a example of why you need your guns then your going to look stupid . Same thing when Guy junicatedeye as he goes by now does when he or others start using the stupid arguments from the N.R.A manifesto well then you will look dumb I'm shore your not so don't use idiotic or stupid argument to justify something you can't justify |
OzzFan Send message Joined: 9 Apr 02 Posts: 15691 Credit: 84,761,841 RAC: 28 |
Same thing when Guy junicatedeye as he goes by now does On the topic of looking stupid... JauncidedEye is not Guy. |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
Same thing when Guy junicatedeye as he goes by now does And... on that note... Why should someone that has not posted in this thread, at least this year, be picked out and called stupid? There's just something wrong there... :| I believe someone needs a break from these fora. Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Siran d'Vel'nahr Send message Joined: 23 May 99 Posts: 7379 Credit: 44,181,323 RAC: 238 |
[ snip ]- Greetings Clyde, Thanks! :) Well, I'm done with him. I red "X'd" his post calling me and JaundicedEye stupid. That is just not done by intelligent people. Just because someone's opinion/belief does not match one's own, one does not call the other "stupid" in open forum. Sheesh... :) Keep on BOINCing...! :) CAPT Siran d'Vel'nahr - L L & P _\\// Winders 11 OS? "What a piece of junk!" - L. Skywalker "Logic is the cement of our civilization with which we ascend from chaos using reason as our guide." - T'Plana-hath |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
As I have already said in other threads in this forum Other people will have different views on life than you other people come from different cultures than you, other people will have had totally different life experiences than you and will disagree with you. None of the above makes them inferior or stupid. Please be civil to your co-posters here, if you cannot be civil please do not post. Note, calling someone stupid or having a low intellect is not considered civil. Thank you. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
JauncidedEye is not Guy. Really , I'm not the only that think it's Guy so prove it |
Zombu2 Send message Joined: 24 Feb 01 Posts: 1615 Credit: 49,315,423 RAC: 0 |
As I have already said in other threads in this forum ^^^^ guy is right you don't call someone stupid in public you gotta be slick "You are at the very top of the bell curve" is a well articulated and inoffensive way which works in almost all situations you have to call someone stupid without them knowing I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Or maybe some should just grow up after all if you make stupid statement you should expect someone to call you out and say your stupid for making the statement in the first place . Using the N.R.A manifesto is stupid as what they say doesn't even happen in reality like trying to steal a handbag . Or saying the only way to stop a bad man with a gun is to be armed . Or a sheriff saying people should arm them self's when the police moto is to serve and protect not cause a panic . If the police think the family is in danger then you would think the right thing to do is to put them in protective custardy until they catch the people or at least put a police office outside the homes not tell people you have to arm your self . That's like says to bad we can't protect you . So why are the cops even there if they can't protect you ??? |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30648 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So why are the cops even there if they can't protect you ???So union bosses collect union dues from taxpayer money? Cops in America have better things to do than to protect the populace. Their most important function is to use asset forfeiture laws to make money, best done by claiming anything is drug profits. Serious, cops will not respond to burglar alarms, traffic accidents, or nearly any other call for help. Might as well call the Perth cops from Brisbane. Now if you can say "shots fired" then they will respond. Of course by the time shots have been fired, blood is gushing out. Now as to your question, why cops, cops are there to pick up the pieces after the carnage and to make you feel safe, but they don't exist to make you safe as that is impossible even in a police state like DPRK who just had a bank robbery! They exist to hopefully catch the crook before he has time to strike again. They also are there to haul off or pepper spray peaceful citizen protesters whom some government official doesn't like by having attention drawn to his corruption. Of course they also stimulate the doughnut economy :) BTW 15 minutes in an acceptable response time to a robbery call. Why 15 minutes? Because that is the average time to respond in their last survey, not because that amount of time is how fast they need to arrive to protect life and limb. The latter has no say. But if they arrive "on time" then politicians won't feel the heat for under-staffing departments by 100%. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Or maybe some should just grow up after all if you make stupid statement you should expect someone to call you out and say your stupid for making the statement in the first place . Stupid, in your opinion, that is the difference. Everything everyone posts here unless backed up by solid facts (which is difficult to do as there is no 100% reliable source of information on the internet), is just there belief or opinion. Things that seem stupid in America may well not seem stupid in Australia, and vice versa. So if people could be a little more tolerant to others views and beliefs. I was born and raised in South London UK, and even in this small country there are many regional variations in how people do things and what they think is the correct way to behave. Just post your own opinions in a way that does not suggest anyone not agreeing is stupid and things will be fine. |
Wiggo Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 |
Guns & sicko's... Just a case of ‘hillbilly justice’ you think Clyde? Oh yes, that's right, I forgot, it's just the American way of life and culture hey? Cheers. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Guns & sicko's... Hillbilly Justice? Ya mean shades of the old Hatfield-McCoy feud (1865-1901)? Maybe... I dunno. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
Oh yes, that's right, I forgot, it's just the American way of life and culture hey? Really your not children but Adolescence , oh right teenagers that would explain things then ... "We don't continuous childish attacks against your Country, or Culture. " Is that because I live in God's Country and there's nothing to say because we are that good ....:-) |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
I believe the idea of these fora is for constructive criticism. Saying my country is good yours is bad, is not at all constructive. I live in the UK and owing any gun is restricted to farmers and a few professionals. I personally do not believe in guns for the masses, however I would NOT for one moment think I can just bad mouth America. I might suggest that they need to control things a little better, make sure that the people with mental health problems get better care, but not attack a whole country and therefore everyone living in it. If the residents of the USA on these boards are happy with the gun culture and gun laws where they live then that does not make them stupid, mentally retarded or any other name you care to throw at them. Please, we are all members of SETI at home here, a little more respect all round would not hurt. Why do I feel I have said this or similar just recently!!! |
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