Here it's the police that issues licenses.
If you have a gun without a license, concealed or in the open, you will be convicted of illegal posession.
My brother was one:)

CCW Permits are not issued by The Police.

They are issued by the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
Division of Licensing

Does speak volumes.

Agriculture?
Do you need to have concealed weapons on a farm?
Well. The milk from cows can turn sour perhaps:)

CCW Permits are not issued by The Police.

They are issued by the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
Division of Licensing

Does speak volumes.

Slightly different in Colorado, a 'shall issue' State. The CCW is issued by County with the Sheriff being the authority. Each Sheriff 'shall issue' the requested permit within 90 business days of submission unless prevented by the FBI background or other reasons(legal/court orders, medicalMHH).

Some Counties issue within 24 hours some take the entire 90 days.

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CCW Permits are not issued by The Police.

They are issued by the Florida Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services
Division of Licensing

Does speak volumes.

Slightly different in Colorado, a 'shall issue' State. The CCW is issued by County with the Sheriff being the authority. Each Sheriff 'shall issue' the requested permit within 90 business days of submission unless prevented by the FBI background or other reasons(legal/court orders, medicalMHH).

Some Counties issue within 24 hours some take the entire 90 days.

50 states with many CCW rules...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concealed_carry_in_the_United_States#Permitting_policies

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/texas-southern-university-lockdown-1.326495

Darn, what I said! I so wish I was wrong last week, but....

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Yes, mass shooting incidents are heart-rendingly sad. But, its mostly an issue to be handled by Crazy Control, and Criminal Control, rather than Gun Control. Why take away the law-abiding citizen's only real means of defense from these thugs and nutjobs? Just get rid of the thugs and nutjobs.

I strongly object to your use of the word 'nutjobs' when describing people with mental health problems. Its needlessly stigmatizing, counterproductive and also a little irrelevant to this discussion.

The problem of gun violence isn't because of people with mental health issues, indeed statistically people with mental health issues are far more likely to be the victim of violence than being the perpetrator. And that shouldn't be so surprising, given that you and with you millions of other people describe people as 'nutjobs' when they have mental health issues. The stigma of mental health issues you perpetuate disempowers people with mental health issues and makes them easier targets for violence. Further proof of this is also found in the part of your post suggesting that America should make it easier to deny fundamental civil rights and freedoms to people who are believed to mentally ill as if they are all mass murderers waiting to happen.

Furthermore, the thing here is that its only a mental health problem when a white person turns into a spree shooter. If its a Muslim, hes a terrorist hell bent on destroying America, if its a black guy its a thug raised in a 'culture of violence' caused by 'broken homes' which 'black leadership should start addressing'. This talk about mental health is little more than the racist notion that white people are naturally incapable of acts of mass violence unless their brain is somehow broken, while with everyone else its because non white people are just naturally violent and hateful.

In short, addressing the failing mental health of America is not going to solve this. And as Obama noted, the US isn't the only country in the world with people who have mental health issues, but it is pretty much the only country in the world where spree shootings like this happen on such a regular basis. So, stop talking about mental health as if thats going to solve anything because its not, its just a distraction from your real problem, namely the easy availability of guns to literally everyone who wants one.

Thankyou for saying these points so eloquently.
Sane whites are perfectly capable of outrageous acts of violence. The 6,000 homes burned down in East St Louis, the burning of Black Wall Street and the Toronto hockey riots come to mind.

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Back on topic and to stir the pot.

A popular speculation among many people is that a good idea is a mandated "Background Check" prior to being allowed to purchase or acquire a gun. This may be the most likely ( perhaps not overwhelmingly likely) thing to be passed into law.

Here are some items for contemplation in this notion that has admittedly less than total impact.

Who will keep the "No Gun" registry.
What will be the criteria for getting on this list.
Who will be required to post to this list.
Will there be appeals to be removed from the list.
Will a license be issued to buy a gun.

This is already established and used in the U.S.
It's called the DMV and it runs a license bureau for operation of a motor vehicle. We just institute the same kind of licensing laws, liability insurance and ownership testing of guns as we do motor vehicles.

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Showing blatant racism.

The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to uncover contraband....https://www.rt.com/usa/stop-frisk-whites-drugs-weapons-667/

The implementation of Stop n Frisk around the country appears to be a fuzzier implementation of the Black Codes passed by the South after the Civil War was lost. It's really no different in the vagrancy aspect in that if the police don't think you should be in that particular neighborhood they do a stop and frisk as a minimum way of embarrassing you to never to show your face there again. It's extraordinarily racist and I watch St Louis County cops stop young black men, whose pants are in no way sagging and they show no gang culture signs whatsoever, being thrown across the hood of the police vehicle and searched and nothing is found.

The War on Drugs has been executed along the same methods with the results of making felons (in some states, non-voters) of a huge percentage of black Americans who have hard time finding a job or a place to live after the drug conviction and the data shows that if police would profile correctly then whites are the ones that carry more drugs and contraband and should be the priority targets of Stop n Frisks, and that also includes highway stops.

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Back on topic and to stir the pot.

A popular speculation among many people is that a good idea is a mandated "Background Check" prior to being allowed to purchase or acquire a gun. This may be the most likely ( perhaps not overwhelmingly likely) thing to be passed into law.

Here are some items for contemplation in this notion that has admittedly less than total impact.

Who will keep the "No Gun" registry.
What will be the criteria for getting on this list.
Who will be required to post to this list.
Will there be appeals to be removed from the list.
Will a license be issued to buy a gun.

This is already established and used in the U.S.
It's called the DMV and it runs a license bureau for operation of a motor vehicle. We just institute the same kind of licensing laws, liability insurance and ownership testing of guns as we do motor vehicles.

So you want the Arizona DMV to allow Sammy the Weasel to be able to buy a machine gun and give him a CCW permit so when the travels to New York he can blast away. Very good move using DMV's!

You may be correct that it will have to be DMV's as those Militias are state not federal.

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'It' 'is' being 'Credibly' 'Reported', The Shooter asked Victims, -'Are You Christian?'-and when Answer is Yes, He Shot them in the head. If No Answer or said 'No', then Person was wounded.

Wonderin' Why there has been An Almost Complete 'Lockdown' on 'Info'.

SomeOne from 'On High' has 'Silenced' 'Release' of 'Info'.

Lock down on this info?
Sorry, but the AP is mainstream.
Thus, you are a liar.

http://news.yahoo.com/terrible-day-9-killed-gunman-oregon-town-063530204.html

"One sentence", please, tell us another lie.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society/2015/1002/Many-school-shooters-one-common-factor-a-warped-view-of-masculinity

But there’s one topic that’s not getting enough discussion, he and some others say: masculinity. “The elephant in the room with ... mass shootings is that almost all of them are being done by men,” Professor Kilmartin says. Male shooters often “project their difficulties onto other people.... In this case, it sounds like he was blaming Christians for his problems, but the masculinity piece is what is really missing in the discussions about the equation.”

Men are often raised to be stoic, to suppress emotions rather than understand them, and when they struggle, often the only emotion that they see as sufficiently masculine to express is anger, says Jon Davies, director of the McKenzie River Men's Center in Eugene, Ore., and a former psychologist at the University of Oregon. On top of that, he says, “it’s impossible to reach the ideal of what it means to be a man.”

Fortunately, the vast majority of men get enough support in their lives that those societal pressures don’t turn into mass violence.

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Back on topic and to stir the pot.

A popular speculation among many people is that a good idea is a mandated "Background Check" prior to being allowed to purchase or acquire a gun. This may be the most likely ( perhaps not overwhelmingly likely) thing to be passed into law.

Here are some items for contemplation in this notion that has admittedly less than total impact.

Who will keep the "No Gun" registry.
What will be the criteria for getting on this list.
Who will be required to post to this list.
Will there be appeals to be removed from the list.
Will a license be issued to buy a gun.

This is already established and used in the U.S.
It's called the DMV and it runs a license bureau for operation of a motor vehicle. We just institute the same kind of licensing laws, liability insurance and ownership testing of guns as we do motor vehicles.

So you want the Arizona DMV to allow Sammy the Weasel to be able to buy a machine gun and give him a CCW permit so when the travels to New York he can blast away. Very good move using DMV's!

You may be correct that it will have to be DMV's as those Militias are state not federal.

Sammy could do that now.

It's a good point that there would be a debate on recognition of other states licenses when you cross a border.

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Showing blatant racism.

The NYPD uncovered contraband in one out every 43 stops of white New Yorkers. By contrast, it took the Department 57 stops of Latinos and 61 stops of African Americans to uncover contraband....https://www.rt.com/usa/stop-frisk-whites-drugs-weapons-667/

The implementation of Stop n Frisk around the country appears to be a fuzzier implementation of the Black Codes passed by the South after the Civil War was lost. It's really no different in the vagrancy aspect in that if the police don't think you should be in that particular neighborhood they do a stop and frisk as a minimum way of embarrassing you to never to show your face there again. It's extraordinarily racist and I watch St Louis County cops stop young black men, whose pants are in no way sagging and they show no gang culture signs whatsoever, being thrown across the hood of the police vehicle and searched and nothing is found.

The War on Drugs has been executed along the same methods with the results of making felons (in some states, non-voters) of a huge percentage of black Americans who have hard time finding a job or a place to live after the drug conviction and the data shows that if police would profile correctly then whites are the ones that carry more drugs and contraband and should be the priority targets of Stop n Frisks, and that also includes highway stops.

More people will of course be stopped in Neighborhoods, where there are higher incidents of Murder, Rape, Robbery, Street Drug Dealing, etc., exists.

This is as it should be, to protect the innocent terrified residences, and their children, from these evil criminals.

Then why isn't stop and frisk instituted on every college campus where rape, drug use and underage drinking is extremely high? Why not put those 'evil criminals' in jail before they can do more harm?
Your characterization of people that use or sell drugs, who are poor and maybe suffering from Borderline personalities, as 'evil' is telling that you have no little mercy for the poor and are not a follower of Jesus' sermons.

Leaving out the inflammatory, and incorrect opinion by including Race:

Even police testify that they were told to target black men ages 14 to 21.
The statistics are data which leave little to interpretation that every year only 9 to 12% of those stopped were white, so it's not an 'incorrect opinion' because they clearly show it's heavily about race and so I will not abide by your wishes now nor in the future.
BTW, it's spelled 'race' not 'Race'. It's not a proper noun.

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More people will of course be stopped in Neighborhoods, where there are higher incidents of Murder, Rape, Robbery, Street Drug Dealing, etc., exists.

This is as it should be, to protect the innocent terrified residences, and their children, from these evil criminals.

Nah, more people get arrested in such areas because you got more cops patrolling around arresting everything that looks suspicious (aka, has a darker skin color). In a lot of cases those people will be let go again because they are just innocent citizens walking around their own neighborhood, although obviously if you start looking for crime you are probably going to find more crime (like jaywalking). But hey, at least the arrest rate is high and if the arrest rate is high it means the crime rate must be high as well right? And so the policy of over policing a particular neighborhood maintains itself.

Meanwhile, areas where just as much crime happens but where the police isn't patrolling on every street corner means less people get arrested, which means the arrest rates are lower which means that there is less need to put more police there because lower arrest rates must mean lower crime rates.

More people will of course be stopped in Neighborhoods, where there are higher incidents of Murder, Rape, Robbery, Street Drug Dealing, etc., exists.
This is as it should be, to protect the innocent terrified residences, and their children, from these evil criminals.

Nah, more people get arrested in such areas because you got more cops patrolling around arresting everything that looks suspicious (aka, has a darker skin color). In a lot of cases those people will be let go again because they are just innocent citizens walking around their own neighborhood, although obviously if you start looking for crime you are probably going to find more crime (like jaywalking). But hey, at least the arrest rate is high and if the arrest rate is high it means the crime rate must be high as well right? And so the policy of over policing a particular neighborhood maintains itself.
Meanwhile, areas where just as much crime happens but where the police isn't patrolling on every street corner means less people get arrested, which means the arrest rates are lower which means that there is less need to put more police there because lower arrest rates must mean lower crime rates.

Incorrect.
Мишель...
More Murders, Rapes, Robberies, Street Drug Dealings, Crime, in a neighborhood = More Cops. As is should be.
Just impersonal numbers.
Yes, you are correct that more police = more arrests. Many of which would not have me made in Low Crime Area's.
It is not about Race, of course.
I can speak of NYC. Wealthy Black and Upper Middle Class Black neighborhoods. Have the same policing as Wealthy White and Upper Middle Class White neighborhoods.
Just as Poor White, Hispanic, Black, et al, have to endure the same policing.
In the present day: It's Class (as Marx correctly stated) not Race.

Correct. It's all about segregation.
There is and always been neighborhoods that has been considered bad.
Even in Europe.
Why? Poor people have to live together and when the children grow up becoming 15 to 25 old they choose to rebell.

Incorrect.

Мишель...

More Murders, Rapes, Robberies, Street Drug Dealings, Crime, in a neighborhood = More Cops. As is should be.

Just impersonal numbers.

Yes, you are correct that more police = more arrests. Many of which would not have me made in Low Crime Area's.

It is not about Race, of course.

I can speak of NYC. Wealthy Black and Upper Middle Class Black neighborhoods. Have the same policing as Wealthy White and Upper Middle Class White neighborhoods.

Just as Poor White, Hispanic, Black, et al, have to endure the same policing.

In the present day: It's Class (as Marx correctly stated) not Race.

What you are forgetting is that in America, class falls along race lines because of your history. So it is race.

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Reality Internet Personality

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Now... It is Class and Culture.

Those are just code words for race.

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Reality Internet Personality

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Now... It is Class and Culture.

Those are just code words for race.

Negative.

'Code Words' are used by Ideologues on The Left.

The Ideologues on The Right, unlike The Left, are usually open about their...

As I have always said: A Pox on Both.

Es99...

I believe we have finally come to 'Agreeing to Disagree'.

Yet the code words are used by those on the right. Shall we just agree that the code words are used by racists on both sides of the political spectrum?

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Reality Internet Personality

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Now... It is Class and Culture.

Those are just code words for race.

Correct. The Black Codes never died; they just transformed into War on Drugs and Stop n Frisk with a widening to other, non-white minorities.

Reading about the Black Codes really opened this white guys eyes.

Just to reiterate for those that didn't' click on the link, it is about race and the police admit they wre told to target young black men
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/22/nypd-stop-frisk-quota-race

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CCW permits. Including Myself, Wife, Adult Children and their Spouses.

Did you have to pass a psych review to get that CCW permit?

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CCW permits. Including Myself, Wife, Adult Children and their Spouses.

Did you have to pass a psych review to get that CCW permit?

There also should be a test on competency just like getting a driver's license. We have determined if you are going to operate a machine that can kill people you should have minimum skills, why are guns different?

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