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Message 1740959 - Posted: 9 Nov 2015, 22:31:34 UTC - in response to Message 1740872.  

Their young group is from 18 - 29 but even there, those that believe to any extent are now down to 81%.

Down?

That is a huge percentage.

This anti-religion (Christian), suicidal attack against Religion in Government, Business, Public Displays, etc.

May result in 'Unintended Consequences'.

Just this Practical Atheist's belief.

It is down compared to the older age groups, and if you extrapolate the figures down to the next generation we could see figures lower than 60% having any belief.

Yes belief in the scientific method is gaining over belief in myths.

The religious fundamentalists are going crazy trying every filthy trick they can invent to convert. Jesus Camp and ISIL are the direct result of this.
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Message 1740995 - Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 1:13:47 UTC - in response to Message 1740959.  
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Their young group is from 18 - 29 but even there, those that believe to any extent are now down to 81%.

Down?

That is a huge percentage.

This anti-religion (Christian), suicidal attack against Religion in Government, Business, Public Displays, etc.

May result in 'Unintended Consequences'.

Just this Practical Atheist's belief.

It is down compared to the older age groups, and if you extrapolate the figures down to the next generation we could see figures lower than 60% having any belief.

Yes belief in the scientific method is gaining over belief in myths.

The religious fundamentalists are going crazy trying every filthy trick they can invent to convert. Jesus Camp and ISIL are the direct result of this.

If you need or want the UK figures there is a google spreadsheet at 2011 Census data - religion by age which if you do the figures indicates that of those aged 18 to 19, 34.9% had no religion in 2011, and only 48.7% said they were christians.
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Message 1740999 - Posted: 10 Nov 2015, 1:32:20 UTC

http://www.cell.com/current-biology/pdf/S0960-9822%2815%2901167-7.pdf

Results from a linear regression with number of stickers shared as the dependent variable ... .


What was on the stickers? If Luke Skywalker, I could see Chinese kids not giving a #%$@ and sharing away something not cared about anyway.

I do not see documentation of the issue Michel raised, but it is a believable concern: could most of the Chinese children been atheist (and maybe a small percent Buddhist), all the Jordanian children Muslim and most of the Turkish children been Muslim (with, maybe, less than a majority, some Christianb)? Where is the control for culture?

What about what I asked: length of time the family the child is from been non-religious (or religious)? Number of years or number of generations? Where's the control for that?
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Message 1741371 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 17:56:54 UTC - in response to Message 1741340.  

only 48.7% said they were christians.

Attacking, and vilifying minorities, is disgusting.

Whether Racial, Cultural, or Religious.

You need to do some more homework.

How many times do I have to tell you this.

The 18 to 19 year old christians in the US are not a minority group because in the US the social majority are the christians.
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Message 1741405 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 20:48:31 UTC - in response to Message 1741371.  

only 48.7% said they were christians.

Attacking, and vilifying minorities, is disgusting.

Whether Racial, Cultural, or Religious.

You need to do some more homework.

How many times do I have to tell you this.

The 18 to 19 year old christians in the US are not a minority group because in the US the social majority are the christians.


What percent of 18 and 19 year olds in the U.S. are Christian?
Or, if you prefer (a la Eleanor Arroway), christian?
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Message 1741418 - Posted: 11 Nov 2015, 21:46:11 UTC - in response to Message 1741405.  

only 48.7% said they were christians.

Attacking, and vilifying minorities, is disgusting.

Whether Racial, Cultural, or Religious.

You need to do some more homework.

How many times do I have to tell you this.

The 18 to 19 year old christians in the US are not a minority group because in the US the social majority are the christians.


What percent of 18 and 19 year olds in the U.S. are Christian?
Or, if you prefer (a la Eleanor Arroway), christian?

http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/americas-changing-religious-landscape/
Factors Behind the Changes in Americans’ Religious Identification

One of the most important factors in the declining share of Christians and the growth of the “nones” is generational replacement. As the Millennial generation enters adulthood, its members display much lower levels of religious affiliation, including less connection with Christian churches, than older generations. Fully 36% of young Millennials (those between the ages of 18 and 24) are religiously unaffiliated, as are 34% of older Millennials (ages 25-33). And fewer than six-in-ten Millennials identify with any branch of Christianity, compared with seven-in-ten or more among older generations, including Baby Boomers and Gen-Xers. Just 16% of Millennials are Catholic, and only 11% identify with mainline Protestantism. Roughly one-in-five are evangelical Protestants.

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Message 1741856 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 20:56:21 UTC - in response to Message 1741371.  

only 48.7% said they were christians.

Attacking, and vilifying minorities, is disgusting.

Whether Racial, Cultural, or Religious.

You need to do some more homework.

How many times do I have to tell you this.

The 18 to 19 year old christians in the US are not a minority group because in the US the social majority are the christians.

Most might be some sect of Christianity, but then this is a secular country where all religions are welcome. Some on TV wrongly claim America is and was a Christian Nation, nothing could be farther from the truth, the Establishment Clause of the one and only US Constitution expressly forbids that.

The first of the First Amendment’s two religion clauses reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion … .” Note that the clause is absolute. It allows no law. It is also noteworthy that the clause forbids more than the establishment of religion by the government. It forbids even laws respecting an establishment of religion. The establishment clause sets up a line of demarcation between the functions and operations of the institutions of religion and government in our society. It does so because the framers of the First Amendment recognized that when the roles of the government and religion are intertwined, the result too often has been bloodshed or oppression.


But then bloody wars have been started in Europe and in the UK over which should be the official religion, Wars of Religion.


Three of My relatives are Catholic and the other six are not, My influences when I grew up were Catholic, problem is I don't believe in Jesus as anything but a Man, just as Judaism does and yet I'm not of the Jewish faith and so I don't go to church, nor do I want to.
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Message 1741880 - Posted: 13 Nov 2015, 23:38:27 UTC - in response to Message 1741856.  

It's no use making reference to those Wars of Religion because they happened so long ago that they are part of the US heritage as well because most people in the US are from European stock who moved to the US long after those wars.

And regarding Christians I was putting them all into one combined group, and your map just shows where some divisions are, but they would all claim to be christians. Therefore the majority of the population at the moment in the US are christians, but this is falling and as each new generation is able to make it's own decision and the oldies, like me, die off there will be less and less christians.

England has an official religion, but there is absolutely nothing to say you must belong to it. In the 2011 UK census there were over 1,300 different religious groups declared, including all the non-religious groups.
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Message 1741895 - Posted: 14 Nov 2015, 0:19:06 UTC - in response to Message 1741880.  
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It's no use making reference to those Wars of Religion because they happened so long ago that they are part of the US heritage as well because most people in the US are from European stock who moved to the US long after those wars.

And regarding Christians I was putting them all into one combined group, and your map just shows where some divisions are, but they would all claim to be christians. Therefore the majority of the population at the moment in the US are christians, but this is falling and as each new generation is able to make it's own decision and the oldies, like me, die off there will be less and less christians.

England has an official religion, but there is absolutely nothing to say you must belong to it. In the 2011 UK census there were over 1,300 different religious groups declared, including all the non-religious groups.

Winter Knight, I just thought some needed a reminder, since some don't have a good grasp on History here in the US, in the US or elsewhere in the world. Since some people that got news coverage, have made some phony statements to the press in this regard.
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