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Message 1729301 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 21:45:31 UTC - in response to Message 1729297.  

[quote]how many pci-x does that board have and did you try all of them with that card ?

also reset the bios with the clear cmos jumper on the board and try again the 990 should have no issues with that car

Cant find that on this mobo.
Removed battery instead.


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Message 1729302 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 21:46:51 UTC
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oh i forgot easy way to test the mobo is to remove cpu and ram and fire it up it should beep slowly and low freq beep

if that happens insert cpu and fire it up you should get a high freq beeping
if that works add ram and fire it up you should hear a multi beep with different speeds
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Message 1729361 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 1:16:04 UTC

Remember that motherboards usually come with an alternative BIOS option.

Typically available by means of either a button or switch on the motherboard.

This does not solve hardware problems, however.
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Message 1729450 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 5:09:35 UTC
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I can find the PDF manual for the 990fx R2.0 board, but not the original, apparently. I don't know how different those two boards really are, but I know basically every board ever has a way to clear the CMOS. Either by a 3-pin header that usually has a jumper hanging on there, or in one case, I had a board that just had the solder pads there, but the pins were never installed. Just had to pop the battery and touch something metallic to the pair of contacts that clears the memory. For good measure, I always flipped the rocker switch off on the PSU as well, and with battery ejected and clear_cmos jumped, pressed the power button to discharge every single last electron floating around.

Supposedly, all you should have to do is just touch the two pins together for a few seconds with the system off, but I tried to leave no variables.

I had to clear my cmos a few times on the last rig (2p Opteron 2222SE) near the end of its life when capacitors starting failing. I would be going along fine, then I'd get a weird system freeze where I could still do things, but nothing new could be loaded into memory or be written to disk, and eventually, the whole system would just freeze. I'd hit the reset button (soft-reset) and it would all come back on and be up and running just fine. Every now and then, a soft reset wouldn't work, so I had to do a cold reset (flip rocker switch off, give it a few seconds and then turn the system back on. When I did that... it wouldn't POST and the alarm on the board would give off about 15 different tones, like it was trying to say every possible error outcome simultaneously.

Flip the rocker switch again, pull battery, touch the clear_cmos pins together, press power button, put jumper back to the "normal" position, put battery back in, turn rocker back on, press power button, and it would power on and do a long POST since it has to learn everything again.. frantically press del/f2 to get into BIOS....and of course, it wouldn't, because that board didn't default to having USB support, so I'd have to dig out a PS/2 keyboard and reboot again to get that to work.



point is... every board has a way to clear the CMOS. Most actually have a 2 or 3 pin header for it, but every board should at least have the solder pads for it and it should be marked on the board somewhere in all of that white lettering all over the place.

[edit: and I agree with what was mentioned already: the only thing you haven't changed is RAM and CPU. Even with no RAM at all, the board should still beep at you, but if the CPU is bad, it might not do anything at all. I had a friend that had a very aged Athlon64 X2 that would do almost that same scenario. Power-on, no beeps, nothing ever happens. Power cycle, press the button again, nothing. Power cycle, try again, and it would start to POST, but would hang and freeze before loading the OS. Power cycle again, power on, worked just fine. After two years of dealing with that, upgraded CPU to a Phenom X4... powered-on every single time and worked like a champ.]
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Message 1729453 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 5:13:53 UTC

I had a rig that was dead in the water a few weeks ago.
Ate it's Winders.
Left it dog dead for a week, and fired up a USB DVD with the OS on it.
Went into recovery mode, it took an hour or more, but it repaired the dang thing without reinstalling..
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Message 1729491 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 8:48:05 UTC

So you got short beep signal but black screen, right?
What about keyboard lights? Short flash of caps/num lock/scroll lock present?
And try to get any low-power PCIe VGA card as test replacement.
If with replacement card you could go into BIOS disable ALL possible periferial devices and ports (even SATA ones) and try with original GPU again.
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Message 1729548 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 14:19:51 UTC

and reset nvram
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Message 1729611 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 19:53:37 UTC

Does the GPU have a BIOS/UEFI switch on it? If your MB does have UEFI then the card would need to be set to BIOS to work.
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Message 1729627 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 21:00:07 UTC

If i could enter the BIOS.
I tried a few things but still no luck.


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Message 1729628 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 21:11:32 UTC

I realize that it's already been suggested that you try the card in each of the different PCIe slots, but I didn't see a response that you've actually tried that. On motherboards with multiple PCI slots, the BIOS may dictate a specific slot as the default for the boot display and if your card isn't in that slot, no signal will get to the monitor. All you'll likely get on power up are briefly flashing disk lights, a single beep, and then everything seems to stop while it's waiting for you to hit a function key or something in response to a message it thinks it's displaying. That happened to me recently when a CMOS battery died and the BIOS got reset to its defaults. I'd forgotten that long ago I had specified a slot other than the default for my video output and it drove me crazy for most of a day trying to figure out why I couldn't get anything but a black screen and that single beep!
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Message 1729631 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 21:26:30 UTC
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I'm guessing the new card that you just got might be bad
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Message 1729751 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 9:46:19 UTC - in response to Message 1729628.  

I realize that it's already been suggested that you try the card in each of the different PCIe slots, but I didn't see a response that you've actually tried that. On motherboards with multiple PCI slots, the BIOS may dictate a specific slot as the default for the boot display and if your card isn't in that slot, no signal will get to the monitor. All you'll likely get on power up are briefly flashing disk lights, a single beep, and then everything seems to stop while it's waiting for you to hit a function key or something in response to a message it thinks it's displaying. That happened to me recently when a CMOS battery died and the BIOS got reset to its defaults. I'd forgotten that long ago I had specified a slot other than the default for my video output and it drove me crazy for most of a day trying to figure out why I couldn't get anything but a black screen and that single beep!


According to the mobo Manual Default Slot is 1.
Thats where it`s fitted right now.

I contacted Sapphire Support, will see what that gives.
Maybe i`ll try to update the Bios via Back Flash Feature.


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Message 1729752 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 9:48:49 UTC - in response to Message 1729631.  

I'm guessing the new card that you just got might be bad


Probably try Raistmers Suggestion and try a cheap Card to make sure.


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Message 1729774 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 13:22:21 UTC

Sapphire??

That's the same manufacturer of my piece of crap R9 x390

Card does not run in a 79 chipset asus sabertooth newest bios no matter what slot put a gtx980 in it and it runs just fine

stay away from these crap AMD cards they nothing but trouble .....

and yes i'm fairly pissed off because i have a 450$ door stop funny enough the card fires up in crap gateway celeron board that is 6 years old with some cheap intel chipset
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Message 1730041 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 9:40:05 UTC
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I never had Trouble with Sapphire Cards.

Anways, no Change after Bios update.
A NV 610 i bought yesterday also doèsn`t work.
I fear i got a bad Motherboard.


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Message 1730046 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 10:16:16 UTC

you have multiple video cards, psu, mobo. so the only other things that you didn't replace are the cpu/ram/monitor/video cable. i would say cpu damage is rare. ram can go bad but should still start, check to see if fully seated and hopefully your mobo isn't too picky about which slots you insert the ram into. hopefully you're not having a bonehead error like having the monitor on the wrong input source selection. also a video cable can go bad, pins can be damaged.
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Message 1730047 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 10:30:45 UTC

Tried the old take the battery out and stuff the motherboard in the freezer for a few hours?


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Message 1730072 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 13:45:38 UTC

That is just bad advice and probably guarantee s a dead board since when you take it out water will condensate on the board and under the chips

Remember water and electronics don't mix
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Message 1730104 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 14:50:36 UTC - in response to Message 1730072.  

That is not true. I washed a laptop motherboard some 3 years ago.
I rinsed it with distilled water and dried it thoroughly. It has been working ever since.

However, i do not see, what putting it in a freezer will accomplish.If there are any weak joints or tracks, you will break them.
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Message 1730106 - Posted: 29 Sep 2015, 14:56:41 UTC - in response to Message 1730104.  
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I have known the freezer trick to work for HDs, but never for a MB.
As for moisture problems, that is only caused by humidity. If you have no humidity, no moisture will form. A gentle breeze with a hair dryer works great during the defrost cycle.

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