Inevitable.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/speaker-john-boehner-retiring-from-congress-at-the-end-of-october-214056

"This is a wonderful day," said the Ohio Republican, who canceled a scheduled news conference.

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You people need "The Donald!"

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Whatever happened to that wanker Mulrooney ?

The Right Honourable Prime Minister,
was never convicted of accepting bribes
while still in the PMs's office. He did
admit to taking $300,000 CDN from a contractor.
Why?

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I believe there is a thread on Canadian politics, so please keep that discussion there.

I believe there is a thread on Canadian politics, so please keep that discussion there.

Eh?

Inevitable.
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/speaker-john-boehner-retiring-from-congress-at-the-end-of-october-214056

"This is a wonderful day," said the Ohio Republican, who canceled a scheduled news conference.

"Now that he doesn't have internal political considerations to weigh, Boehner is certain to push through a government-funding bill next week that funds Planned Parenthood and keeps the government open."

Wow. I can't believe they would shut the government down over women's healthcare.

Are these people crazy?

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Are these people crazy?

Yes. Yes they are.

Are these people crazy?

No, just real dumb!

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Are these people crazy?

They believe in a mythical man in the sky who controls them and will either reward or punish them. Did you have to ask the question?

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Are these people crazy?

Yes. Yes they are.

Yes they are.

only 49% of Republicans think the religion of Islam should even be legal in the United States with 30% saying it shouldn't be

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

30% demanding it be violated?! Crazy!!!

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Are these people crazy?

Yes. Yes they are.

Yes they are.

only 49% of Republicans think the religion of Islam should even be legal in the United States with 30% saying it shouldn't be

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

30% demanding it be violated?! Crazy!!!

And yet they're the first to claim Obama has violated the constitution. I guess it's OK so long as they are parts you agree with.

Are these people crazy?

Yes. Yes they are.

Yes they are.

only 49% of Republicans think the religion of Islam should even be legal in the United States with 30% saying it shouldn't be

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

30% demanding it be violated?! Crazy!!!

And yet they're the first to claim Obama has violated the constitution. I guess it's OK so long as they are parts you agree with.

Government is not supposed to participate in religion or the establishment of such.
But, they are required by law to allow same.
The 'free exercise' bit.
And yes, they CAN say 'in god we trust' on the money.
They are not saying in God you must trust.

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Government is not supposed to participate in religion or the establishment of such.

And yet they do so all the time. Judges sentence alcoholics to AA all the time, and AA teaches those alcoholics to trust in a higher power, thus is religious based, and force people to get indoctrinated into that religion despite there being plenty of alternative methods to help people clean up their acts without religious indoctrination that have a far better success rate than AA.

And yes, they CAN say 'in god we trust' on the money.
They are not saying in God you must trust.

Not really. Money is public currency that is created to pay all debts, public and private. As such, putting "in God we trust" on the money implies or invokes a higher authority on legal tender, thus showing the Federal Government to endorse the idea of God. In interest of separation of church and state, the Feds shouldn't be putting any endorsement on any public currency.

Government is not supposed to participate in religion or the establishment of such.

And yet they do so all the time. Judges sentence alcoholics to AA all the time, and AA teaches those alcoholics to trust in a higher power, thus is religious based, and force people to get indoctrinated into that religion despite there being plenty of alternative methods to help people clean up their acts without religious indoctrination that have a far better success rate than AA.

And yes, they CAN say 'in god we trust' on the money.
They are not saying in God you must trust.

Not really. Money is public currency that is created to pay all debts, public and private. As such, putting "in God we trust" on the money implies or invokes a higher authority on legal tender, thus showing the Federal Government to endorse the idea of God. In interest of separation of church and state, the Feds shouldn't be putting any endorsement on any public currency.

I disagree.
This country was FOUNDED to allow people to exercise their free exercise of any and all religions. I don't see that the government endorsing one without any moneys being used or time expended on it's behalf is a problem.

And, the money says..........in
God we trust. It does not endorse any specific God or religion.
Just...God. Kinda like the Pope, LOL.

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This country was created on the principle that there is a higher authority and that each of us will ultimately be held accountable for our trespasses against one other.

You seem to be confused as to what country you are a citizen of. You are not a citizen of the country that failed and used the Articles of Confederation.
Declaration wrote:

Laws of Nature and of Nature's God

Articles wrote:

Great Governor of the World

But: Constitution wrote:

We the People

is not a reference to some mythical being in the sky who will punish or reward you.

LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!

WWJD?
All this liberal bashing from someone who claims to follow Jesus. Why do you bash Jesus? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/12/09/jesus-christ-liberal/

What's crazy is the liberal's insistence on this course which brings down the U.S.

So your answer is to destroy the only shining light on this planet because you are a greedy bastard who doesn't want to live the pauper's life your lord god has ordained.

the outright assault on the Christian religions

The only such assault is being carried out by minions of Satan who preach adherence to some or all of the deadly sins to the exclusion of all else.

Greed
Envy
Gluttony
Sloth
Wrath
Lust
Pride

In any case this describes the absolute refusal to help fellow citizens or states very well as a deadly sin.

LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!

WWJD? I don't think Jesus would let them fail. Now Lucifer would!
Of course you could do as the signers of the Declaration did and give up your worldly possessions and become one with Jesus' commands.Declaration wrote:

we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

You have framed your post that your god demands a government shutdown because of abortion. Your god does no such thing. Your god does demand that you relieve suffering. You refuse that because you follow the deadly sin of greed and lust of money. You refuse to relieve her suffering by paying for an abortion. Then you compound her suffering by refusing to clothe, feed, and house her and her child, refuse to give her child a good environment to grow. That is another deadly sin, wrath. You even take pride in your proposed actions! I could go on, but an agent of Luicifer will never back down from his job to harvest souls, so there is little point.

The path of religious fundamentalism is the path to Satan's trick trap door.

OB: It does seem inevitable that Lucifer's minion, the Tea Party, will win their pyrrhic victory and there will be a Government Shutdown, likely right before Christmas shopping season so that Government checks won't go out, the best time to cause the most damage to the economy. Talk about wicked evil plots!

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This country was created on the principle that there is a higher authority and that each of us will ultimately be held accountable for our trespasses against one other.

You seem to be confused as to what country you are a citizen of. You are not a citizen of the country that failed and used the Articles of Confederation.
Declaration wrote:

Laws of Nature and of Nature's God

Articles wrote:

Great Governor of the World

But: Constitution wrote:

We the People

is not a reference to some mythical being in the sky who will punish or reward you.

LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!

WWJD?
All this liberal bashing from someone who claims to follow Jesus. Why do you bash Jesus? http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/12/09/jesus-christ-liberal/

What's crazy is the liberal's insistence on this course which brings down the U.S.

So your answer is to destroy the only shining light on this planet because you are a greedy bastard who doesn't want to live the pauper's life your lord god has ordained.

the outright assault on the Christian religions

The only such assault is being carried out by minions of Satan who preach adherence to some or all of the deadly sins to the exclusion of all else.

Greed
Envy
Gluttony
Sloth
Wrath
Lust
Pride

In any case this describes the absolute refusal to help fellow citizens or states very well as a deadly sin.

LET THE FAILED STATES FAIL!

WWJD? I don't think Jesus would let them fail. Now Lucifer would!
Of course you could do as the signers of the Declaration did and give up your worldly possessions and become one with Jesus' commands.Declaration wrote:

we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

You have framed your post that your god demands a government shutdown because of abortion. Your god does no such thing. Your god does demand that you relieve suffering. You refuse that because you follow the deadly sin of greed and lust of money. You refuse to relieve her suffering by paying for an abortion. Then you compound her suffering by refusing to clothe, feed, and house her and her child, refuse to give her child a good environment to grow. That is another deadly sin, wrath. You even take pride in your proposed actions! I could go on, but an agent of Luicifer will never back down from his job to harvest souls, so there is little point.

The path of religious fundamentalism is the path to Satan's trick trap door.

OB: It does seem inevitable that Lucifer's minion, the Tea Party, will win their pyrrhic victory and there will be a Government Shutdown, likely right before Christmas shopping season so that Government checks won't go out, the best time to cause the most damage to the economy. Talk about wicked evil plots!

I'm also curious which states he thinks are failed?

Since some of you are going to cherry pick my words, and since I mistakenly began to address some of the off-topic drifts, let me rephrase.

I say if the federal government refuses to cut spending to a point where our national debt begins a sustained downward trend, and if shutting down the government is the only way to cut spending, then I'm all for a government shutdown. Shutting down the government would be less painful than what will come next if we don't start paying down our debt. (Paying down our debt, by default, would reverse the trend of centralizing all power and control inside the beltway.)

Gary, if you think it's inevitable, I'm glad to hear it and I hope you're right. (I don't think it's inevitable.) And Jesus didn't preach for everyone to give away all their belongings in the way you are suggesting-he was asked a specific question and tried to make a point. And Jesus didn't preach to borrow until you couldn't pay it back either.

Sarge, any state which *relies* on federal funding to maintain *any* state program. (ya… ya… blue states pay for red states if you google it, but there are several things those data collectors are not taking into consideration such as military installations and large government contractors. Besides, that’s immaterial. So, before you point this out let me say YES, let the RED states fail! Though, I’m sure you’d see something different.)

Another way of cutting debt is to increase income. How about taxing the rich rather than constantly punishing the poor?

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