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What Experience One Needs to Lie, Cheat, Steal and Otherwise Muck Up Da Lives of Everyone? And Why Would More of This Experience, through Gaining Much MORE of This Experience in Office, be More Advantageous to The People You Fooked Over for Years Years and Years, Be Better For The Peoples Experience in Livin' Day to Day? It is So Easy To 'Experience' The People Into ShatDom. Life Sucks, why 'Experience' 'It' Into More of SuckWorld? Huh? yep, Yup, fO shO May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!! |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
The perfect case in point for what strict term limits will fix... Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price. Indicted on 11 Federal felony counts involving corruption. If convicted on all 11 counts he could receive 139 years in prison and I think a US$1.4 million fine. The case is about a year old. I think his trial starts in January. But two of his associates also charged have pleaded guilty and are going to testify against him. http://res.dallasnews.com/interactives/john-wiley-price-breakdown/ *THIS* sort of schizz is what strict term limits will help to prevent. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
But it doesn't stop civil service "schizz" such as http://www.pasadenastarnews.com/general-news/20141230/pasadena-ex-employee-suspected-of-stealing-6m-in-city-funds-scandal-larger-than-bell-case |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
But thats sounds like our Europian members of parlaiment. The only time some of them are in Brussels is to sign their name on friday afternoon in order to get their paycheck! Yes. They even take a flight and want us to pay for it! |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Strict term limits? I think that would be useless in Europe. Definitly not in Scandinavia. On the other hand. Berlousconi in Italy... Perhaps some other guy... Oh dear. I forgot Putin:) |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
A rather strict term limit will fix one problem... That of the 'career politician' and its consequent corruption. Right, from all the politicians that serve the country for decades only a handful turns to corruption. But by all means, lets restrict everyone from doing their job just because a few suck at it. This is as stupid as those voter ID laws, they only fix imaginary problems. And in this case, its not even a good one as people who just got elected can become corrupt just the same as someone who already served 5 terms. And you are ignoring the benefits of having career politicians. They get a lot of experience, which makes them simply better at their job. You are denying yourself experienced politicians who understand how the system works, who understand how policy making works, who may have created a valuable international network of contacts allowing them to be excellent diplomats, just because *some* politicians feel the urge to start stealing. A perfect example of a cure that does more damage than the disease. Finally, do you hate freedom? No? Then why are you trying to restrict peoples freedom, one of their most important freedoms, namely the freedom to elect the politician of their choice? Or are you saying people are to stupid to recognize an incompetent politician? Let me get this straight, you are in favor of electing judges and you are fine with a judge serving his term creating one miscarriage of justice after another, but if a politician takes a bribe or gives a government contract to his brother, now seriously thats such a problem that politicians should only be allowed to serve one term once. Serve one term in one office, then after serving your city/county/state/country you go back home and go back to work at your *REAL JOB*. Oh, so running one of the most powerful countries in the world isn't a 'real job'? |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
[sarcasm] Right, because it totally follows from me saying not all of them are corrupt (prove me wrong) they should therefor be treated like kings. Of course not. But instituting term limits to deal with 'corruption' is inventing a solution for an imaginary problem, and its a bad solution at that as well. And what happened to you freedom warriors, complaining about how even the slightest background check for guns infringes on peoples freedom and will inevitably result in tyranny, but you guys are completely fine with limiting peoples choice on who they can vote for during elections? The most important freedom in a democratic system, voting for whoever you like, is the freedom you want to restrict? |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Our current ruling class is out of control. Has been for a couple of decades now. The problem is not imaginary. It's quite obvious everywhere you look. The list of changes because of light and transient causes are becoming too numerous to list. The left and most of our press are just ignoring this very real problem. But they are not prosecuted because they are the prosecutors. The reason our country is becoming lawless is because our ruling class has become lawless. Without the details at the moment, this lacks nuance (something Clyde just referred to in another thread). |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
When people breach our borders, they can vote for free stuff and then get it. Brutus please cite specific examples otherwise this is just an unfounded opinion. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
@Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution: That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and happiness. Our law from 1280 AD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4stg%C3%B6talagen "Äldre VŠästgšötalagen ... confirms the right of the people to elect or depose the Swedish king and also stipulates that the king must be accepted by the (lawman, law-speaker) at the (parliament or assembly)" |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
@Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution:Wrong document Janne |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
@Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution:Wrong document Janne Is it? Does Thomas Jefferson and The Declaration of Independence ring a bell? http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
When people breach our borders, they can vote for free stuff and then get it. Well, betreger, specific examples are problematic to obtain, but here is a study on the matter for your viewing pleasure. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0261379414000973 The study is behind a paywall, but here is a newspaper summary. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/ Key point: Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010. If correct, that is enough non-citizens voting to have significantly changed the outcome of a number of races having widespread effects on legislation passed. For instance Sen. Franken (D-Minn.) won election by 312 votes. Franken's election made the US Senate filibuster-proof for the Democrats. This enabled the passage of the ACA, among other legislative priorities of the Obama Administration. It is even possible that Obama himself owes his election to these illegal non-citizen votes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
@Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution:Wrong document Janne Declaration of Independence != US Constitution. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
@Sarge. You forgot to highlight this from the US Constitution:Wrong document Janne Note to Janne: != is also represented by <>. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution are inextricably linked. The Declaration of Independence provides morale authority for the U.S. Constitution.Ah, what happened to the Articles of Confederation? Did you forget them and everything between 1776 and 1787? (They are rather forgettable considering how well they worked. But we have people who advocate for their re-adoption.) |
betreger Send message Joined: 29 Jun 99 Posts: 11358 Credit: 29,581,041 RAC: 66 |
The Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution are inextricably linked. The Declaration of Independence provides morale authority for the U.S. Constitution. How condescending. You make statements and provide no proof and blame people who don't know how you come up with your conclusions. Generally you do better than that. |
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