And what means "Mozzarella style cheeze"?

Would a Gouda made in Parmesan be called Parmesan?

No, because the two cheeses are made differently.

If you were making the pizza topping and couldn't get any Mozzarella for that stringy texture then I suppose you could use either or a mix of both the Swiss cheeses emmental and gruyère. They go stringy. As used for that seventies favourite fondue dinner party.

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While the denomination "Emmentaler Switzerland" is protected, "Emmentaler" alone is not; similar cheeses of other origins, especially from France and Bavaria and even our Nordic countries, are widely available and sold by that name. Emmentaler dates to the time of ancient history.

Here we make Grevé.
Perfect as a Pizza topping.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grev%C3%A9

My nephew is from Liverpool not far from Manchester. About 30 kilometers I think!
They are called Liverpudlians but are more often described by the colloquialism "Scousers".

The word "scouse" is a shortened form of "lobscouse", whose origin is uncertain.[14]
It is related to the Norwegian lapskaus, Swedish lapskojs and Danish labskovs and the Low German Labskaus, and refers to a stew commonly eaten by sailors.
In the 19th century, poorer people in Liverpool, Birkenhead, Bootle and Wallasey commonly ate "scouse" as it was a cheap dish, and familiar to the families of seafarers..
Outsiders tended to call these people "scousers".[15]

Reminds me of Haggis, Swedish Pölsa:)

"real Parmesan" doesn't mean anything is the USA as we aren't part of EU attribution by region doesn't exist. So cheese made in the style of Parmesan is sold as Parmesan and of course that is cheap and plentiful.
But Mozzarella style cheeze is the major cheese in an American style pizza pie

The EU has a legislation about every food brands.
Italian Parmesan, Mozzarella, Greek Feta are examples of protected names.
But in the US...
Who cares about quality?

And what means "Mozzarella style cheeze"?

Legally if Mozzarella is used(this applies to all ingredients), only a certain amount has to be used, just to be factually correct, even Imitation Mozzarella, does contain Mozzarella, though in what amount is known only to the people who made the pizza, since that is a trade secret. Oh and the pizza's went in the oven Frozen.
Here's the list of ingredients of those 2 pizza's that I had, and that's all that is legally required, at one time, all you see there was not required, and unless a business decided to do this, it would be a trade secret. I had the pizza in the oven for 25 mins, at 400F, on a cookie sheet, in the 2nd from the bottom rack position, needless to say the crust was not limp, the crust was crisp, just the way I like pizza. Sorry I did not think of taking a pic of either pizza after I had gotten them out of the oven.

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We don't eat Pizzas like that in Europe.
Yak. Barf out.
Look at the ingredient list in your pic for the so called "Supreme Pizza" !
That's not food.

Zappa and Pizza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPh3r31Ql28

Oh well, you travel to bars
You also go to Winchell's Doughnuts
And hang out with the Highway Patrol
Sometimes you'll go to a pizza place
You go to Shakey's to get that
American kind of pizza
That has the ugly, waxey, fake yellow
Kind of cheese on the top...
Maybe you'll go to Straw Hat Pizza,
To get all those artificial ingredients
That never belonged on a pizza in the first place
(But the white people really like it...)

Yak. Barf out.
Look at the ingredient list in your pic for the so called "Supreme Pizza" !
That's not food.

Better living through chemistry.

Yes, frozen processed chemistry.

Yap!

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Yak. Barf out.
Look at the ingredient list in your pic for the so called "Supreme Pizza" !
That's not food.

Better living through chemistry.
Yes, frozen processed chemistry.
Yap!

Here in Europe we prefer food from living things.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR2WMN1qYJc

Now we're cooking:)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KtIBPwaRkk

We don't eat Pizzas like that in Europe.
Yak. Barf out.
Look at the ingredient list in your pic for the so called "Supreme Pizza" !
That's not food.

Zappa and Pizza.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPh3r31Ql28

Oh well, you travel to bars
You also go to Winchell's Doughnuts
And hang out with the Highway Patrol
Sometimes you'll go to a pizza place
You go to Shakey's to get that
American kind of pizza
That has the ugly, waxey, fake yellow
Kind of cheese on the top...
Maybe you'll go to Straw Hat Pizza,
To get all those artificial ingredients
That never belonged on a pizza in the first place
(But the white people really like it...)

Yeah, but at least it's edible, here if someone wants no artificial anything, either the manufacturer has to go along with that idea by being pressured by the public, or you make the pizza yourself, good food can be expensive here, I'm lucky if I don't spend $100 for a months worth of food, but then purists are called Foodies over here, I'm not picky, not on My budget, I just do the best that I can with what I get, and I fight against any cuts too, like in a petition against the draconian cuts by the administration, $3.3 Trillion over 10 years, while the military gets an extra $500 billion over 10 years, disgusting, but I digress.

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The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's

Yeah, but at least it's edible, here if someone wants no artificial anything, either the manufacturer has to go along with that idea by being pressured by the public, or you make the pizza yourself, good food can be expensive here, I'm lucky if I don't spend $100 for a months worth of food, but then purists are called Foodies over here, I'm not picky, not on My budget, I just do the best that I can with what I get, and I fight against any cuts too, like in a petition against the draconian cuts by the administration, $3.3 Trillion over 10 years, while the military gets an extra $500 billion over 10 years, disgusting, but I digress.

Heck. Not even our dog Tosca eat crap like "Supreme Pizza".
She likes our food better then so called dog food.
My food is also by far cheaper than processed dog food.
And by far more healthier!

To give yo an idea of the difference in ingredients between a cheap US and a cheap UK pizza heres the list off a basic "tom&cheese" from one of our supermarkets:

Ingredients

Fortified British Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Calcium Carbonate, Iron, Niacin, Thiamin), Water, Mozzarella Cheese (Cows' Milk) #(19%), Tomato (7%), Semolina (Wheat), Rapeseed Oil, Yeast, Tomato Purée, Salt, Sugar, Cornflour, White Wine Vinegar, Garlic Purée, Oregano, Basil, Black Pepper, Flour Treatment Agent: Ascorbic Acid

#Produced using vegetarian rennet.

I buy these and use them as the base for a "fancy" pizza. The base freezes well (provided you've got space to keep them flat while they freeze...)

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

To give yo an idea of the difference in ingredients between a cheap US and a cheap UK pizza .... .... ...

One of the interesting (if you are a perverse veggie like me ;) ) things is that food laws in the US and Europe (UK-ish) allow for a different description to cheese and quality of milk.

I may be wrong but I suspect the allowable (and accepted) percentage of hormones and mastitis puss in milk (cheese) is far higher in America.

You might think this is horrid but what it means is that American cheese Pizzas are far richer in hidden complex ingredients

I am in a general sense a Veggie but in reality you can't be a vegetarian if you eat fish, eggs or milk. (I do the milk thing.)

Fish, eggs and milk are animals. Well milk is not an animal but it is the product of injecting animals with hormones or killing the baby animals that would otherwise drink the milk we love to steal.

I've never eaten an America shop bought pizza. I'm sure they are wonderful.


Is a pizza or pasta Italian?

Can a recipe be traditional if parts of its ingredients are not native?

In England most see 'Chip Shop Chips' (fried potatoe chips softened in their own steam in paper wrap, perhaps with salt and vinegar) as traditional.

Potatoes are South American.??

A traditional Friday night treat in England should actually be fried turnip slices and battered red squirells with a splash of quince sauce..

food.. who needs it .:)~

I prefer to make my own pizzas using pita bread as the base.

Cheers.

I prefer to make my own pizzas using pita bread as the base.

Cheers.

Good call.

I use shop bought nan breads. Top them with bits and shove 'em under the grill.

The little creatures in my life love them.. because they can add anything they like.

Mind you a smartie, cheese, doll's broken foot and grubby finger pizza can be a little hard to stomach sometimes..

The grubby finger adds flavour and texture - unless you are veggie in which case :-(


I've never tried Smarties or M&Ms on a pizza, must give it a go some day!

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Bob Smith
Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society)
Somewhere in the (un)known Universe?

The grubby finger adds flavour and texture - unless you are veggie in which case :-(


I've never tried Smarties or M&Ms on a pizza, must give it a go some day!

No. We must never let those little cheeky digits get away with anything even if they are naughty adult paws.

Grubby fingers are an acceptable veggie snack.

In fact they make up a good part of our diet.

.. Toasted Smarties.. Caramalised and hot gooey choco centre.... and cheese...

... Mmmmm.

Try eating true Traditional Mexican cooking. I was thinking as I watched that tv show. Please stomach, get a grip and hold it down. If it walks, crawls, swims or flys. It is on the plate for dinner.
The chef was really starting to cross me line at mosquito eggs and whole fried frogs.

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I may be wrong but I suspect the allowable (and accepted) percentage of hormones and mastitis puss in milk (cheese) is far higher in America.

The Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, does not know how antibiotics are used in farms. The agency collects data on sales and distribution but has not been able to check practical use or how much doses are given and how long an animal is eating antibiotics.

I may be wrong but I suspect the allowable (and accepted) percentage of hormones and mastitis puss in milk (cheese) is far higher in America.

The Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, does not know how antibiotics are used in farms. The agency collects data on sales and distribution but has not been able to check practical use or how much doses are given and how long an animal is eating antibiotics.

I don't know about the FDA. I do know there are differences between America and the EU (and sepratist UK) around milk.

It is a good job America has Berkeley. All the FDA needs to do is milk a few cows and send a pint to any University lab and I suspect they would know exactly the levels of antibiotics and hormones and mastitis \ puss and blood in their product.

Even in England every so often you can taste the bovine in our milk even though it is pasteurised and probably a little more controlled.

Personally I am looking forward to the off chance that I might become a mad cow..

I can go rolling my eyes and fall around in fields. Most of the food companies and politicians will say I'm far better than normal and then give the owner of my field extra money to come paint the grass even greener...

(A number of years ago a royal came to visit my city and the nut bags at the top actually ordered the painting of various grass areas green... ;/ )

As to recipies and milk. I loved Junket as a child but it's a pain to make as a vegetarian.

It is a good job America has Berkeley. All the FDA needs to do is milk a few cows and send a pint to any University lab and I suspect they would know exactly the levels of antibiotics and hormones and mastitis \ puss and blood in their product.

I don't know about that.
Do you know how many are checking bottled water quality in the US?
Yes, One!