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Message 1725342 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 12:12:47 UTC
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Hi guys! Using SETI for more than 15 years and just discovered that I'm lost all my received points (more than 500000 (not counting classic's)) after update to BOINC's last version 7.6.9 and now have only 504,721 with around 400,000 per day.
WTF and what to do?
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Message 1725345 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 12:30:48 UTC

Meouch....
Mebbe recover your old account with the correct email addy?
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Message 1725349 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 12:45:28 UTC - in response to Message 1725345.  
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Meouch....
Mebbe recover your old account with the correct email addy?

It's same account with same e-mail.
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Message 1725350 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 12:52:06 UTC - in response to Message 1725342.  
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Hi guys! Using SETI for more than 15 years and just discovered that I'm lost all my received points (more than 500000 (not counting classic's)) after update to BOINC's last version 7.6.9 and now have only 504,721 with around 400,000 per day.
WTF and what to do?

Surely 504721, is more than 500000
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Message 1725353 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 12:59:24 UTC
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Perhaps the use of the comma , is confusing you

500000 is 500,000 the comma denotes the "thousand"

Therefore 504,721 is 504721
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Message 1725366 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 13:20:53 UTC - in response to Message 1725342.  

Hi guys! Using SETI for more than 15 years and just discovered that I'm lost all my received points (more than 500000 (not counting classic's)) after update to BOINC's last version 7.6.9 and now have only 504,721 with around 400,000 per day.
WTF and what to do?

It looks like you use comma in Belarus as a decimal "point".
In Scandinavia we do the same and this can be very confusing.
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Message 1725374 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 13:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1725366.  

Hi guys! Using SETI for more than 15 years and just discovered that I'm lost all my received points (more than 500000 (not counting classic's)) after update to BOINC's last version 7.6.9 and now have only 504,721 with around 400,000 per day.
WTF and what to do?

It looks like you use comma in Belarus as a decimal "point".
In Scandinavia we do the same and this can be very confusing.

Sure! So, I found a reason when switch to from Russian or Belarusian to English language in client options:
Work done: 504 , 721
Avg. work: 386 . 50
but in Russian and Belarusian client language it shows:
Work done: 504 , 721
Avg. work: 386 , 50
That's why.
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Message 1725452 - Posted: 13 Sep 2015, 16:41:58 UTC

GOT IT!
So, I understand - before there were no any decimal in total Work done points.
That's it.
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Message 1726175 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 9:25:21 UTC

Thousands separators were part of the latest client updates, yes.
Apparently David quite forgot that not everyone uses ',' for thousands and '.' for decimals. (German does it the other way round and the Indians have a completely different system)

There was some discussion on the boinc alpha mail list, but I don't know if proper localisation of that feature (i.e. increase readability of large numbers by adding separators) was introduced.
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Message 1726181 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 9:43:48 UTC - in response to Message 1726175.  

Thousands separators were part of the latest client updates, yes.
Apparently David quite forgot that not everyone uses ',' for thousands and '.' for decimals. (German does it the other way round and the Indians have a completely different system)

There was some discussion on the boinc alpha mail list, but I don't know if proper localisation of that feature (i.e. increase readability of large numbers by adding separators) was introduced.

There were a lot of changes to number format display on 26 August (commit d10bf89a255fdbaa7ecb32213b7f20a511429612), but it looks like they weren't tagged into the BOINC v7.6.9 build compiled the following day. So we don't have any way of testing whether they were properly localised unless someone is prepared to supply us with a self-build, or we walk the code.
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Message 1726198 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 11:53:57 UTC - in response to Message 1726181.  

... or we walk the code.

It does look as if the latest BOINC string utility library will attempt to use the correct thousand and decimal separators, if defined and available in the locale conversion settings in use.

But I don't know if that will work correctly for the Indian base-100 increments for lakh and crore.
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Message 1726201 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 12:17:27 UTC - in response to Message 1726198.  
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Nope, it doesn't work. I just built 7.6.10, have BOINC Manager set to Dutch and all my separators are commas instead of points.

We write 1000000 as 1.000.000,00 not as 1,000,000.00 as it shows now.
But hey, I am still waiting for answers to my questions sent to David and Jacob, the same two responsible for this screw up, so I will leave it to someone else to go report this. I'm done with them.

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Message 1726213 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 13:26:48 UTC - in response to Message 1726201.  

Nope, it doesn't work. I just built 7.6.10, have BOINC Manager set to Dutch and all my separators are commas instead of points.

We write 1000000 as 1.000.000,00 not as 1,000,000.00 as it shows now.
But hey, I am still waiting for answers to my questions sent to David and Jacob, the same two responsible for this screw up, so I will leave it to someone else to go report this. I'm done with them.

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It's clear from that image that one change has been applied between v7.6.9 and v7.6.10 - a comma (rather than a thousands separator) has appeared in the RAC column. But I think the jury's still out on whether the rest of the changes were tagged for inclusion in a client build (that brings Rom into the interrogation seat, too). I find the ongoing move from trac/SVN to Git/github/Google makes it harder and harder to check basic details like that, but I'll persevere. Try to work out whether the next move is 'tag and build' or bug report.
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Message 1726215 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 13:33:25 UTC - in response to Message 1726213.  

I warned about this problem in an email on May 30th. But apparently I wasn't listened to. What else is new?

http://lists.ssl.berkeley.edu/pipermail/boinc_alpha/2015-May/020786.html
Can we please have that follow what country the operating system is
set to, just as with the date/time enumerations?
At least here in parts of Europe we use the comma as the decimal mark
and the period as the thousands separator.

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Message 1726219 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 13:50:30 UTC - in response to Message 1726215.  

Well, the separator codes are in the version of str_util.cpp downloaded as a v7.6.10 zip, and appear to conform to https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/8658zdx3.aspx.

So it's a bug.
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