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Message 1726238 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 15:08:41 UTC

Jesus is that the time I better crash it's 1 am night all....
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Message 1726240 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 15:13:41 UTC - in response to Message 1726237.  
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Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Thats very true.
The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
Nothing more.


plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

And Trolls:)
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Message 1726271 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 18:39:39 UTC - in response to Message 1726231.  

You continue to demonstrate your ignorance. That is not an attack. It is a fact. That you view it as an attack is sad.

I guess I will have to help you out, "rookie investigator".


Sarge...

Yes.... I do understand your, and others, 'Inner Needs'

Why you, and others need to believe in their 'Superiority' over a "rookie investigator" and other Intelligent and Highly Educated Poster's: Is difficult to understand.

You have repeatedly stated the Political Boards are Debates. Sorry to disagree with you.

Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Both sides (only a completely unintelligent idiot would believe there are only two sides) are just there to Win.

I enjoy, and believe Intelligent Discussions are the only true way. You don't, and possibly do have the Emotional Capability to engage in Vigorous and Intelligent discussions of issues.

Sarge...

I believe in the Correctness of my opinion. Nothing more. Nothing less.

But... When attacked by those who believe in their superiority over "rookie investigator". I respond in the same manner. Just one of my many defects.

Therefore... Since I am 'Mirroring' you, and others of your type (a very usefull technique, better suited to a group discussion):

Your silly attacks are just showing what you are.

BTW: Yes, I do understand you, and others of your type, is like talking to a vacuum.

But... Keep it up. Does give me a chuckle. My bad.

:) :) :) :) :) :)


You used the term.
It sure does seem to adequately describe your ability to make sense of what you read here. Thus, not an attack.

And in the meantime, you are not discussing the issues.
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Message 1726275 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 18:46:57 UTC - in response to Message 1726237.  
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Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Thats very true.
The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
Nothing more.


plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

Debate | Define Debate at Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debate

noun 1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints:


Our discussions here ... our debates ... are not for the sole purpose of winning. They can and do in fact alter opinions. We have recently had a few state what and how. The movement in thought makes it unlikely that we are board full of ideologues.

Dear Clyde: you came in firing with all guns, in September of 2013. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=239521&offset=4860. You aren't mirroring anything. You attacked pretty much from the start. Stop whining like Trump. Quit your own attacks. Discuss issues, not a meta-analysis of discussion/debate or whatever word you feel like using, and using to your own definition. Recognize when others are discussing issues.

Or, enjoy things be the same as they have been for you since September of 2013.

That's "Rich".
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Message 1726278 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 18:59:47 UTC - in response to Message 1726275.  
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Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Thats very true.
The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
Nothing more.


plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

You are not the arbiter of definition of words either.
There is a difference between a debate and a discussion. (In swedish Debatt and Diskussion).
A debate is usually two persons arguing for a position to an assembly of people.
A discussion is an assembly of people talking of issues that sometimes gets argumentative.

An example.
In the parlaiment they debate. In our kitchens we discuss:)
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Message 1726280 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 19:03:15 UTC - in response to Message 1726275.  

Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Thats very true.
The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
Nothing more.


plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

Debate | Define Debate at Dictionary.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/debate

noun 1. a discussion, as of a public question in an assembly, involving opposing viewpoints:


Our discussions here ... our debates ... are not for the sole purpose of winning. They can and do in fact alter opinions. We have recently had a few state what and how. The movement in thought makes it unlikely that we are board full of ideologues.

Dear Clyde: you came in firing with all guns, in September of 2013. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_user_posts.php?userid=239521&offset=4860. You aren't mirroring anything. You attacked pretty much from the start. Stop whining like Trump. Quit your own attacks. Discuss issues, not a meta-analysis of discussion/debate or whatever word you feel like using, and using to your own definition. Recognize when others are discussing issues.

Or, enjoy things be the same as they have been for you since September of 2013.

That's "Rich".


Put another way:

you either do not understand us or LIE about your observations of us.

We do not have to tolerate this.

We are free to ignore you.

We are free to red-X you.

Or, you are free to change.

Or, you are free to show us how to change if it is really necessary.
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Message 1726281 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 19:06:11 UTC - in response to Message 1726278.  

Debates (attended many and participated in some) are not an Intelligent Discussion, as I prefer. Debates are not an attempt to find 'The Truth' (whatever that may be).

Debates are the same as a Criminal Trial. Not an attempt to find 'The Truth', but to Win.

Thats very true.
The SETI board Politics is "Discussion of Political Topics".
Nothing more.


plus a few pranksters , clowns , ricks ,blah blah blah

what a wonderful world intergalactic space travel will be we can't even play nice on Earth let alone out there


He can call a debate whatever he wishes. He is not the arbiter of definition of words.

You are not the arbiter of definition of words either.
There is a difference between a debate and a discussion. (In swedish Debatt and Diskussion).
A debate is usually two persons arguing for a position to an assembly of people.
A discussion is an assembly of people talking of issues that sometimes gets argumentative.


Do not fall into his trap to try to divide us.
I did not define the word.
I copied and pasted from a dictionary, universally recognized as including the (singular or plural) definitions.
Because I have used the word debate, he tries to put his interpretation on it and think he understands me.

Let us not fall into his trap.

Let us not discuss this meta-analysis further.

Discuss Jesus.
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Message 1726282 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 19:18:43 UTC - in response to Message 1726281.  
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Discuss Jesus.

Geezes:)
I can discuss Jesus.
But debate about him?
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Message 1726302 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 20:47:44 UTC

Regarding some of the bickering going on in this thread, first remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
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Message 1726305 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 21:04:25 UTC

Our new PM Stefan Löfven's favorite word is bickering "käbbel":)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-hxYRD8bb4
Thats politics.
When it comes to religion bickering is the norm:)
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Message 1726313 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 21:49:50 UTC

This thread is getting a little toasty. Let's all take a break for a little laugh.


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Message 1726318 - Posted: 16 Sep 2015, 22:10:26 UTC
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"Life's a Piece of Shit, When You Look at It." :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

On the other hand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I
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Message 1726343 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 0:34:39 UTC - in response to Message 1726337.  

Then I will not 'mirror' your postings, with my reply.

Fee Fie Foe Fum I smell the post of a ditto head.
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Message 1726353 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 0:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 1726343.  
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The Clyde continues to show no substance to me, I guess I'm just not smart enough to understand his depth. On the other hand one can say communication is not what one says but what one hears. Since the the consensus here seems to be that no one understands what The Clyde says I can conclude all he exudes is babble. On the subject of communication The Clyde clearly has failed.
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Message 1726361 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 1:00:11 UTC

CLYDE, is a discussion of the evidence, or lack thereof, supporting the statement "there is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified", an attack?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1726393 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 2:03:13 UTC - in response to Message 1726359.  

Will you, or others like you, understand?

The Clyde has responded and he asserts that we don't understand
Will you, or others like you, understand?

Of course not.
So The Clyde agrees with me in that he is a failure as a communicator. That is quite a statement from one who claims professional qualifications.
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Message 1726436 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 7:18:18 UTC

JESUS H. CHRIST!!! :-O

Is this old subject being flogged again? :-D

Cheers.
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Message 1726438 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 7:27:46 UTC - in response to Message 1726436.  

JESUS H. CHRIST!!! :-O

Is this old subject being flogged again? :-D

Cheers.

I've heard that phrase all my life. What is H. an abbreviation for? Maybe Holy?
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Message 1726439 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 7:33:52 UTC - in response to Message 1726438.  

JESUS H. CHRIST!!! :-O

Is this old subject being flogged again? :-D

Cheers.

I've heard that phrase all my life. What is H. an abbreviation for? Maybe Holy?

I thought that it was for Henry myself. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1726498 - Posted: 17 Sep 2015, 15:13:52 UTC - in response to Message 1726362.  

CLYDE, is a discussion of the evidence, or lack thereof, supporting the statement "there is no doubt that a man called Jesus of Nazareth lived and was crucified", an attack?

I do know that.

All I said was that there are many Persons and Events, taken as History. That we have less evidence.


By all means start a separate thread on these matters. Discussion of them in this one would appear to be off topic.

It is understood as 'A Story - Agreed to'.

"A Story" as in fiction? "Agreed to" as in fact? Apologies for not understanding what you intended to indicate by this comment. Google did find this "a story we agreed to tell each other over and over until we forget that it's a lie", is that what you meant?

Sorry for responding to the silly attackers.

So your answer is that it's an attack?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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