Does anyone really believe that Iran will honor this agreement? Shades of 1938, Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler. When will they ever learn, make a deal with a snake and you will get bit.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Does anyone really believe that Iran will honor this agreement? Shades of 1938, Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler. When will they ever learn, make a deal with a snake and you will get bit.

Does any country ever completely honor any agreement?

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let's go for regime change

I agree, and I know what countries it needs to be done in....

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Does anyone really believe that Iran will honor this agreement? Shades of 1938, Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler. When will they ever learn, make a deal with a snake and you will get bit.

What proof do you have that they will not stick to the deal?

So far all the Iran deal detractors have managed to come up with is that Iran will just do that because thats what Iran does? But really, has Iran been such an unreliable country? Historically speaking, when it comes to US-Iran relations, it has been the US that has been by far the more aggressive and unreliable of the two. First there was that time the US staged a coup to get rid of a democratically elected president of Iran and replaced him with the Shah, who was pro Western but also a brutal dictator. Then came the Iranian revolution and during this time the hostage crisis happened. Following that, the US supported Saddam Hussein with supplies and political support when he started a war with Iran. Political relations remained tense and they worsened again when Ahmadinejad became president. He said some mind boggling stupid things and as a result the US spearheaded an international effort to impose sanctions on Iran that have left its economy in ruin. It also adopted the whole narrative suggested by Israel that Iran was just months away from getting a nuclear bomb and when they would have that bomb they would instantly start a nuclear war against Israel. The fact is that Israel has been proclaiming that Iran is just 'months away' from getting a nuke for 20 years now and that the Ayatollah has consistently claimed that he would not be interested in starting a war with Israel. And he can know because in the end its the Ayatollah who gets to make such calls, not some idiot like Ahmadinejad. This is further supported by the fact that Iran has never initiated a war on its own or has followed particularly expansionist policies.

So basically, Iran has been repeatedly stamped on by the US and its allies. Is it at all surprising that the Iranians have no particular fondness for the United States? Is there any reason to assume Iran will break its promises as set out in the Iran deal? No, not really. And why would they? It would mean the sanctions would return and the economy would tank again. And even if Iran gets their hands on a nuclear weapon, is there any indication they will instantly use it to start a war with Israel? There are stronger indications that Israel will use nuclear weapons before Iran will.

Does anyone really believe that Iran will honor this agreement? Shades of 1938, Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler. When will they ever learn, make a deal with a snake and you will get bit.

What proof do you have that they will not stick to the deal?

So far all the Iran deal detractors have managed to come up with is that Iran will just do that because thats what Iran does? But really, has Iran been such an unreliable country? Historically speaking, when it comes to US-Iran relations, it has been the US that has been by far the more aggressive and unreliable of the two. First there was that time the US staged a coup to get rid of a democratically elected president of Iran and replaced him with the Shah, who was pro Western but also a brutal dictator. Then came the Iranian revolution and during this time the hostage crisis happened. Following that, the US supported Saddam Hussein with supplies and political support when he started a war with Iran. Political relations remained tense and they worsened again when Ahmadinejad became president. He said some mind boggling stupid things and as a result the US spearheaded an international effort to impose sanctions on Iran that have left its economy in ruin. It also adopted the whole narrative suggested by Israel that Iran was just months away from getting a nuclear bomb and when they would have that bomb they would instantly start a nuclear war against Israel. The fact is that Israel has been proclaiming that Iran is just 'months away' from getting a nuke for 20 years now and that the Ayatollah has consistently claimed that he would not be interested in starting a war with Israel. And he can know because in the end its the Ayatollah who gets to make such calls, not some idiot like Ahmadinejad. This is further supported by the fact that Iran has never initiated a war on its own or has followed particularly expansionist policies.

So basically, Iran has been repeatedly stamped on by the US and its allies. Is it at all surprising that the Iranians have no particular fondness for the United States? Is there any reason to assume Iran will break its promises as set out in the Iran deal? No, not really. And why would they? It would mean the sanctions would return and the economy would tank again. And even if Iran gets their hands on a nuclear weapon, is there any indication they will instantly use it to start a war with Israel? There are stronger indications that Israel will use nuclear weapons before Iran will.

Interesting point of view from a Russian.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

https://youtu.be/PsaoSONHh9M

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Interesting point of view from a Russian.

I didn't know Мишель was a Russian, Bob how do you?
As far as the viewpoint expressed there is much historical truth there as I remember and no I am not a big fan of theocracies.

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"Religion as a Product of Psychotropic Drug Use".

If this is true then I have met a lot of
people who must be very religious in deed...

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I was very religious at one time then too hahahaha

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I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap

Honestly I don't but that sure doesn't look like an English name or Dutch.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Honestly I don't but that sure doesn't look like an English name or Dutch.

Maybe Michel only had access to a russian keybord when he choosed his username, Боб:)

Interesting point of view from a Russian.

Maybe its because I'm not Russian? You know, the flag in my profile is pretty clear about that :)

And its not that hard to write stuff in Cyrillic. Just use Google translate.

In any case, my background is not relevant to the argument I made.

Our backgrounds including nationality are relevant to every comment made in the politics forum. So many people in here choose to mask their true identity and one must go by whatever clues are presented.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

In any case, my background is not relevant to the argument I made.

Even the effort is worth while....

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Bob if you have ever played Poker you know what a bluff is !

The whole point of the Iran deal is to call there bluff .

Ok you wish Nukeular power for Electrical power generation

90% of there Uranium to be given up ...cool test 1

Inspecters to view plants , storage and processing plants test 2

We get cooperation with defeating Isis test 3

we don't get any of them or 1

Slap Sactions back on cut help . Isis is as big a threat to them as us Bob so to answer your Question "YES" I do think we will get cooperation , the question is how long but until they "F" up

This is not like Chamberlin in WW2 Hitler was a total Meglamanic and nutcase and had already taken Austria , Hungry and was about to invade Poland .

Not the same as now .

Weather you hate Obama or like him the Iran Deal is the right thing to do , call there Bluff get Intel and plan for the worse but hope for the best .

This one should be above politics or personality's ....we are at WAR weather we wish to accept it or not .

Tactic's win wars

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Optimism is strong in Iran. After the regime agreed with the West about its nuclear program sanctions that have hampered the country's economy is now lifted. As a result, investors are flocking to the Iranian market, and tourism is expected to soar.

To meet the increased demand, the French hotel chain Accor, which owns both Ibis and Novotel, announced that it will open branches of both hotels near Tehran's airport.

- We see major growth potential in the country, which has more than 80 million inhabitants and a booming economy, Accor's CEO Sebastien Bazin told Reuters.