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Message 1723782 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 8:48:52 UTC - in response to Message 1723766.  

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Message 1723783 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 8:51:06 UTC - in response to Message 1723782.  

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Message 1723786 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:02:07 UTC

I`d also suggest to run just 4 tasks on CPU.
Seti home uses the FPU very much and since 2 cores have to share one FPU it is faster to utilize the CPU only at 50%.
Your over all output will increase.


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Message 1723788 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:05:19 UTC - in response to Message 1723783.  

185078 gflops in 8-9mins normal?
70700 in 4-5mins
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Message 1723789 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:06:41 UTC - in response to Message 1723788.  

i am running at 100% of 50% of the cores
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Message 1723790 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:10:16 UTC - in response to Message 1723789.  

im upgrading my board in a couple days to a asus crosshairs formula ,much better then the asus m5a99x evo 2 i have now,be able to push cpu further and dual x16 crossfire should help a bit.. and a new benchtable,help with airflow.

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/aerocool-strike-x-air-benchtable-black-pc-cases-5591690?tagIds=76-524
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Message 1723791 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:11:58 UTC - in response to Message 1723790.  

im upgrading my board in a couple days to a asus crosshairs formula ,much better then the asus m5a99x evo 2 i have now,be able to push cpu further and dual x16 crossfire should help a bit.. and a new benchtable,help with airflow.

https://www.digitec.ch/en/s1/product/aerocool-strike-x-air-benchtable-black-pc-cases-5591690?tagIds=76-524


I have the Sabertooth mobo.
I`ve heard its better on OC than Crosshair.


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Message 1723792 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:14:25 UTC - in response to Message 1723791.  

i got one for 100$ tho ..didnt really need it..just kinda got a good deal and took it..same with my 2nd 290x ..got it for 200$..cant say no..practically for free! lol
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Message 1723793 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 9:17:17 UTC - in response to Message 1723791.  

i can push my 8370 to 5.2 stable at 1.55v ,my only limitation is heat with my m5a99x ..so the crosshairs is better with heat ..im really considering building a custom loop watercooler for my cpu and 290x's just for fun
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Message 1723945 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 19:39:54 UTC

I probably could have responded earlier but we blew a transformer here at work so that was fun.

Crossfire doesn't interfere with the project but I've found that it slightly reduces performance so I turn it off.

I've tried almost every driver for the last year and if you're just running one WU per GPU then they pretty much all work fine.

I just got through testing 15.8 beta that came out last week and I got triplet errors when running two WU per GPU. And no, I don't have any kids that I know of.

I'm trying 14.9 right now but I expect it to work fine. I tested 14.4 for a week with no problems. I'm guessing 14.12 and later all have issues.

If you insist on using Windows 10, see if you can keep the OS from automatically installing 15.x drivers if you want to run 14.9 with multiple WU per GPU. I'm not expecting that Windows 10 would be the most stable environment with last year's drivers so I went back to Windows 8.1. Windows 8.1 also has better compatibility with things that I use like Samsung Magician and ASUS AI Suite. Or you can try linux.
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Message 1723981 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 21:29:22 UTC

I'm trying 14.9 right now but I expect it to work fine. I tested 14.4 for a week with no problems. I'm guessing 14.12 and later all have issues.


Nope, Cat 14.12 should work also.
At least on Win 8.1.

Not sure about win 10 but its worth a try.


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Message 1723987 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 21:50:11 UTC
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Use 0.43b.

Please be aware, that you need to let your existing task run dry, as installing 0.43b will kill your already downloaded tasks.


Why do you say that? The installer is carefully designed to preserve existing work in the vast majority of cases, and certainly to preserve stock work (both running and ready to start) on first installation.

If you think you've found a bug, please report it - here will do.


Because i have had it numerous times, with stock apps and wus loaded,that when installing lunatics, at least the gpu tasks disappeared (became ghosts) and i had to download new ones.
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Message 1724008 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 22:55:00 UTC - in response to Message 1723981.  

The information I'm giving is only as it applies to Hawaii GPU only. I just generated some fresh new invalids with 14.9. I can try 14.12, I'm not beyond trashing work units. I think the only driver I'm having luck with is 14.4.
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Message 1724009 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 22:58:50 UTC - in response to Message 1723987.  

If you think you've found a bug, please report it - here will do.

Because i have had it numerous times, with stock apps and wus loaded,that when installing lunatics, at least the gpu tasks disappeared (became ghosts) and i had to download new ones.

Let's try and unpick that, so we can improve Lunatics for next time.

Which type of GPU - NV, ATI or intel?

Which version of Lunatics have you installed "numerous times"?

Over what sort of timescale have these problems occurred? Any specific dates you can remember would help to narrow it down.
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Message 1724014 - Posted: 9 Sep 2015, 23:43:20 UTC - in response to Message 1724009.  

If you think you've found a bug, please report it - here will do.

Because i have had it numerous times, with stock apps and wus loaded,that when installing lunatics, at least the gpu tasks disappeared (became ghosts) and i had to download new ones.

Let's try and unpick that, so we can improve Lunatics for next time.

Which type of GPU - NV, ATI or intel? NVIDIA

Which version of Lunatics have you installed "numerous times"? 0.43.b

Over what sort of timescale have these problems occurred? Any specific dates you can remember would help to narrow it down.


http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6850463
This is the host i installed ver 0.43b 64-bit.
The error tasks are ghosts, that were produced when i installed lunatics.

I do not recall the dates, but it must have been at least 3 or 4 times in the past year on two different computers.
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Message 1724094 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 3:29:43 UTC - in response to Message 1724014.  

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/results.php?hostid=6850463
This is the host i installed ver 0.43b 64-bit.
The error tasks are ghosts, that were produced when i installed lunatics.

This should not happen - the installer have the necessary 'code' to deal with AstroPulse v7 v7.10 (opencl_nvidia_cc1)

Inside Lunatics_Win32_v0.43b_setup.exe (open by 7-Zip) there is file AP7_win_x86_SSE2_OpenCL_NV.aistub and it have section:
    <app_version>
        <app_name>astropulse_v7</app_name>
        <version_num>710</version_num>
        <avg_ncpus>0.04</avg_ncpus>
        <max_ncpus>0.2</max_ncpus>
        <plan_class>opencl_nvidia_cc1</plan_class>
       	<cmdline></cmdline>
        <coproc>
            <type>CUDA</type>
            <count>1</count>
        </coproc>
...

To check what BOINC logged about those tasks (to see were they ever been on-board)
- in files stdoutdae.txt and stdoutdae.old
- find the following strings:
ap_01jn12ab_B1_P1_00178_20150813_13797.wu
ap_02my15ab_B2_P1_00313_20150814_05120.wu
ap_06my15aa_B4_P1_00002_20150811_30134.wu

- that way you will see when/if they were Downloaded and when/if they were Deleted
 


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Message 1724163 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 6:38:03 UTC - in response to Message 1723987.  

In response to message 1723757

Use 0.43b.

Please be aware, that you need to let your existing task run dry, as installing 0.43b will kill your already downloaded tasks.


Why do you say that? The installer is carefully designed to preserve existing work in the vast majority of cases, and certainly to preserve stock work (both running and ready to start) on first installation.

If you think you've found a bug, please report it - here will do.


Because i have had it numerous times, with stock apps and wus loaded,that when installing lunatics, at least the gpu tasks disappeared (became ghosts) and i had to download new ones.

Normally this would only happen if you selected the wrong apps or if you made a mistake editing the app_info.xml. ;-)

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Message 1724175 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 7:49:31 UTC - in response to Message 1724014.  

I do not recall the dates, but it must have been at least 3 or 4 times in the past year on two different computers.


Lunatics v0.43b for Windows was released to the public less than two months ago, on 23 July 2015.
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Message 1724189 - Posted: 10 Sep 2015, 8:51:13 UTC - in response to Message 1724175.  

I do not recall the dates, but it must have been at least 3 or 4 times in the past year on two different computers.

Lunatics v0.43b for Windows was released to the public less than two months ago, on 23 July 2015.

My suspicion is that Rasputin was talking about Astropulse tasks after 23 Apr 2015, 18:50:41 UTC, and MB ATI tasks after 26 Jun 2015, 22:55:12 UTC - both in the gap before 0.43b was released. But I was hoping he would clarify his point before issuing blanket instructions to all and sundry. I honestly don't think there are any current problems with 0.43b, either for stock transfers or upgraders from previous versions. Care does need to be exercised - as I mention whenever we release a new version - if you have added an application intended for Beta testers to an otherwise standard Lunatics installation.
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Message 1724518 - Posted: 11 Sep 2015, 7:31:51 UTC

after disabling crossfire i seem to have gone from 19k or so to almost 22k average credit...slight improvment
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