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I started my Post with the word "Much"

Apparently you skipped over that word. Or purposefully miss-characterized the thrust of my opinion.

Does ones opinion of my Post change. If one actually understands the meaning of the word "Much"?

Well, usually when people use the word 'much' they refer to a significant quantity, possibly even the majority of a given quantity. In which case, no I still think you are wrong. Much of the bible is historically inaccurate. That is, the majority of it is inaccurate. Genesis, Exodus, every story that covers a supposedly historical event, is inaccurate. Even if there is evidence that some of those events did sort of happen, I'm quite certain that the way they are described in the bible is not how they happened.

I was raised in the Presbyterian Faith and taught that as the stories in the old testament were passed down generation by generation they took on the character more of a mythology than the history of a people. As stated by others some events and characters have a basis in truth but are not word for word historically accurate. To many christians the concepts being presented are what's important, not the word for word truth or lack thereof.

But during my tenure in the hospital in Greenville, South Carolina the brand of Christianity practiced there clings to the belief that every word in the Bible is historically 100% accurate right down to the creation in seven days and the creation of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. Any challenge of that form of religious truth got met with open hostility.

As regards how I think human beings should interact I think there are many elements of christianity that are positive and if honestly practiced would help bring this world into a better age, but my personal belief is that God only exists in the minds and hearts of men and women. There is no heaven nor hell and that the time we spend here on earth is our one shot at living. We can either waste that time by hating our fellow man or we can give our lives purpose by actively trying to make the human situation better for everyone.

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My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I dont think the Genesis story is inaccurate as a whole.
But that there must be a God to do it?
Makes no sense to me.

I remember my conformation priest saying that's impossible to throw up letters and they combine as the Bible.
But I though if you do that a several trillion times that's bound to happen...

You're evading the main point. If it's just a bunch of beautiful allegories, why should we believe there was anything divine behind it??

Divine behind what? Our self awareness?

If you wish to ask that question as well, fine. I think it's quite clear what I'm talking about. The Bible is claimed to be telling us the story of God's interaction with humanity. Is it merely a beautiful story or is it something divinely inspired (or even the inerrant word of God)? If it's just a beautiful story, then what the heck are we doing worshiping something that's just a story? Or, if beautiful stories inspire worship, how about "1984", "The Hunger Games", "Crime and Punishment" and "Othello" as well?

I Will Believe, Exist[A][E]nce of GOD, when Da Vatican Accepts into Vatican City, A Bunch of Deeezzz Present Refuges Streaming into Europe.

And When, Da Vatican, sells Only 1 Ten Thousanth of Their 'Treasures' to Support Refuges fO Da Next Many Many Many Years.

Da Vatican, by Selling 'Treasures' they 'Possess', could 'Raise' Trillions of $$$$$, Buy Land, Settle and Support, Millions and Millions of Refuges.

When Dey DoooZZZ Dis,

I Will Believe.

'It' 'Is' So Easy fO Da Pope to Proclaim(Speechify-Like Da HustlerHusseinOne) 'bout 'Helping' Out, when IT IS OTHER PEOPLES MONEY and HOME.

(Dat Be Funny, since ALL Dat Dey Have 'Is' from OTHER PEOPLES MONEY)

Yep Yup fO ShO and Sweetness Abounding.

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

I Will Believe, Exist[A][E]nce of GOD, when Da Vatican Accepts into Vatican City, A Bunch of Deeezzz Present Refuges Streaming into Europe.

But the Vatican has already gave that offer.
2 families from Syria are welcome to stay in the Vatican.
And the Pope has urged that all other religious communities in the world to do the same!

Some grok, some don't!

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Our self awareness?

How can atoms be self awareness?
We humans (and life) are made of atoms. Nothing else.
Still we reflect of our history and why we exist.
Rather amazing don't you think?

Still no God to find...

You're evading the main point. If it's just a bunch of beautiful allegories, why should we believe there was anything divine behind it??

Divine behind what? Our self awareness?

If you wish to ask that question as well, fine. I think it's quite clear what I'm talking about. The Bible is claimed to be telling us the story of God's interaction with humanity.

Is it merely a beautiful story or is it something divinely inspired (or even the inerrant word of God)?

If it's just a beautiful story, then what the heck are we doing worshiping something that's just a story? Or, if beautiful stories inspire worship, how about "1984", "The Hunger Games", "Crime and Punishment" and "Othello" as well?

Those things aren't mutually exclusive now are they? Just because it was divinely inspired or the word of God himself, doesn't mean that its the literal truth. Perhaps God likes a good story as well?

Our self awareness?

How can atoms be self awareness?
We humans (and life) are made of atoms. Nothing else.
Still we reflect of our history and why we exist.
Rather amazing don't you think?

Still no God to find...

+1

Steve

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Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

That is their problem.

You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.

Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

That is their problem.

You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.

I wonder what it makes people that spent 33 years as a Christian, 13 years as an agnostic somewhat sympathetic and certainly willing to defend people's right to believe to finally an atheist of about 1 year (and still willing defend)?

Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

That is their problem.

You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.

I wonder what it makes people that spent 33 years as a Christian, 13 years as an agnostic somewhat sympathetic and certainly willing to defend people's right to believe to finally an atheist of about 1 year (and still willing defend)?

It makes them i....s.

Only fanatical (really non-thinking) Atheists think the entire Quran and Bible are only about Human fantasy.

That is their problem.

You are SO oblivious! Steve is an Atheist who thinks most of the Quran and Bible are fantasy.

I wonder what it makes people that spent 33 years as a Christian, 13 years as an agnostic somewhat sympathetic and certainly willing to defend people's right to believe to finally an atheist of about 1 year (and still willing defend)?

It makes them i....s.

And fa....al no.-th....ng!

I defend nothing here, other than the right for a man to believe in what he believes in.

'God' is in the eye of the beholder, you see.
What one chooses to believe in.

I happen to be one of those believers, and if that is not your own choice, I shall not try to force it upon you, no matter how much I happen to.

I have more than once stated my conviction that God and science are not mutually exclusive beliefs.
For, if one accepts that God created all, one can also accept that He created worlds other than our own. And I have no problem mixing my belief in the Lord above with my Seti search for some others He may have created, but the passing of time has not kept alive the documentation of such.

That does not mean they do not exist.

The Bible is a mankept document, not necessarily a historically accurate one.
It has been handed down through so many generations that it's accuracy and authenticity can be doubted, I agree.

What remains is the tenacity of Man's need to find something other than happenstance for our existance.
And I accept the stance of those who find none.

I happen to believe very much in God. A higher power than mankind.
A creator above...although given what is going on now, I dunno what he was thinking...LOL.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

A creator above...although given what is going on now, I dunno what he was thinking...LOL.

Our God works in mysterious ways.
If he/she/other is the creator of everything he must have created humour as well:)

Note to the Mods: Even if their Posts are an attempt to stop any Intelligent Discussion of Issues (one described himself as a 'Nose picker'):

The 'Outing' of themselves, is very Educational.

Yes, it is quite educational. It certainly tells me how low you're willing to go, and how you take a flippant comment meant to be humorous as something serious, and that somehow, even though we're all willing to engage in discussion, it we who are trying to stop intelligent discussion.

Note to the Mods: Even if their Posts are an attempt to stop any Intelligent Discussion of Issues (one described himself as a 'Nose picker'):

The 'Outing' of themselves, is very Educational.

Yes, it is quite educational. It certainly tells me how low you're willing to go, and how you take a flippant comment meant to be humorous as something serious, and that somehow, even though we're all willing to engage in discussion, it we who are trying to stop intelligent discussion.

It seems to me that The Clyde often uses the tactic of a circular argument in same manner as the departed poster known as ID did.

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Does inability to communicate toward or away from the existence of God? Or neither?