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Message 1719185 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 18:25:48 UTC

I am running seti on this computer. Is it possible to download another copy to a flash drive connected to this computer?
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Message 1719187 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 18:28:20 UTC - in response to Message 1719185.  
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Do you mean the installer, the actual program to run or the data (ie work units)?
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Message 1719191 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 18:35:37 UTC - in response to Message 1719187.  

The installer, the actual program.
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Message 1719194 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 18:41:30 UTC - in response to Message 1719191.  
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You can always put the installer on a thumbdrive, I do that.

Not sure about the actual program, but I would think you could. To have the program running on a thumb or external drive requires you to point the installer to that drive during the installation.

I've never done the actual program, but I did have it where the data was on an external drive. But that was some time ago.



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Message 1719203 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 18:55:03 UTC - in response to Message 1719194.  

That's my problem. I don't know how to point the installer to the thumb or flash drive. I don't expect to run the program from the flash drive. I'm just looking for a convenient way to help others get started by installing the program for them. Of course I can always to it the conventional way. Maybe its just not one of my best ideas.
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Message 1719210 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 19:09:29 UTC

When you download the installer from the server save it to the thumbdrive instead of the default location.
For the simplest configuration you just have to download the BOINC installer and run that, then connect to SETI@Home. This is because the required applications are downloaded automagically when required.
For optimised applications then you have to download both the BOINC installer and the Seti@Home (Lunatics) installer - the latter does not come from SETI@Home but from one of the third party providers.
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Message 1719211 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 19:10:49 UTC - in response to Message 1719203.  

it is pointless to install seti on a machine that does not have web access
so go to the seti home page and install it.
if on the other hand you want to be able to run seti from a memory stick
when you plug it into a computer any computer there are ways to do that too.
so what in a lot more detail do you want to do?
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Message 1719213 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 19:12:52 UTC - in response to Message 1719203.  

If all you want to do is help people install the program, you only need to copy the installer to the flash drive. You copy it like you would copy any other file to it. Then you can run the installer on other machines right from the flash drive. There's no need to run the installer and have it unpack the program onto the flash drive.
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Message 1719216 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 19:16:23 UTC - in response to Message 1719203.  

If you are just looking to put the installer on a thumbdrive it's pretty easy

Just download the installer to your computer.

Next put the thumbdrive into the USB port (if you have never done this before, windows will probably tell you it is installing the drivers to read the device. Wait till it is finished)

You should then get a pop up window asking what you want to do with it

something along the lines of

Removable disk (F:)

General Options

Open folder to view files

Use this device for back up

Speed up my system



Click Open folder to view files

It should then cause another window to open showing you the contents of the thumb drive

(if you didn't get this pop up window then go to start button, click on it and then go to computer and click it and then look for devices with removable storage and click on it)


Don't close this window

Go to the start up button on the lower left hand of screen and click it

From the pop up navigate to computer and click

a second window should pop up, now under the upper right side you will see

Favorite
Desktop
downloads
recent places


Click on downloads

This will now show you all the items you have downloaded

Look for the Boinc installer or zip file, which ever one you want. I just use the installer that I have previous used when installing on my computer.

Click and how the right button down. Then drag it from the downloads window to the window showing the contents of the thumb drive

Release once you are in that window. It should now be coping the installer

Once you are done, you can close both windows

On the bottom of the screen, on the right hand dise you will see a little up arrow.

Click on that, it will expand and show you numerous items. What you are looking for is something that looks like a USB plug. Move the mouse over it and right click on it. It should give you 2 options, pick eject Udisk

It should then say "safe to remove device"

You can pull out the thumbdrive now and move it to another machine

Once you get to other machine, just plug in. It should repeat the first part asking what you want to do. Open the files, then drag the installer from the thumbdrive onto the desktop and install onto the new computer. You might be able to just run the install from the thumbdrive, not sure thou. I always just move it


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Message 1719308 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 21:49:10 UTC - in response to Message 1719216.  

You really spent too much of your time to explain the simple "How to Copy files"
If he really don't know where the browser Downloads files - every browser have a Setting to "Ask where to save each file before downloading"
 


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Message 1719318 - Posted: 27 Aug 2015, 22:23:36 UTC - in response to Message 1719308.  

You really spent too much of your time to explain the simple "How to Copy files"
If he really don't know where the browser Downloads files - every browser have a Setting to "Ask where to save each file before downloading"


He was just trying to be helpful.
Not everybody is a computer whiz, and some find step by step instructions help them get where they wanna go.

Why bash Zalster for being a good samaritan???????????????
That comment was just uncalled for, my friend.
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Message 1719380 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 0:44:38 UTC - in response to Message 1719318.  
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It's ok Mark,

I've learned to take everything Jord says with a grain of salt.

If I speak too plainly, It's because I realized along ago that not everyone has a doctoral degree.

My patients really don't like it when staff talk technical terms and expect them to understand them....lol

So everyone gets treated the same. If it's too simple then they will let me know, otherwise it's best to make sure there is no doubt. (Because people are afraid to admit they don't understand certain things)

In this case, he's not knowing how to copy the installer, reminds me of my dad who likes to video chat but can't remember the steps to do on the computer to turn it on. (he holds a degree in Physics and work as a Rocket Engineer for NASA back in the day) But at 85,his memory isn't so great anymore. So I write down the steps on a notebook so he can refer to it. Otherwise he would never get online and chat with his grandkids.

So I believe in the old acronym KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid!) Referring to myself in the last part. Because not everyone has a PhD or Doctoral....

I'm done here, hope you got that installer transferred ;)
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Message 1719486 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 6:18:04 UTC - in response to Message 1719203.  

That's my problem. I don't know how to point the installer to the thumb or flash drive. I don't expect to run the program from the flash drive. I'm just looking for a convenient way to help others get started by installing the program for them. Of course I can always to it the conventional way. Maybe its just not one of my best ideas.

Dave:

If the computers you want to install BOINC & Seti@Home on are connected to the Internet, the normal way (download from the website) is the easiest.

If those computers are NOT regularly connected to the Internet, you may be setting yourself up for a LOT of extra work, transferring Tasks from connected computers to non-connected computers, and completed work back the other way, using that flash drive. I would recommend NOT doing it.
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Message 1719530 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 10:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 1719380.  

I've learned to take everything Jord says with a grain of salt.

Great, but do know that my nom de plume is Ageless, a name that before this very post hadn't been in this thread yet. If I am that much at the top of your brain, that you're confusing me with genuine others, then perhaps it's time to take five.
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Message 1719558 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 12:28:32 UTC - in response to Message 1719530.  
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Apologies to Jord.

Laziness at rechecking who said what.

Time to take five



Ha...Not in the middle of the WOW...nice try....
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Message 1719771 - Posted: 28 Aug 2015, 22:08:11 UTC - in response to Message 1719380.  

So I believe in the old acronym KISS (Keep it Simple Stupid!)

Yes, that was my post all about - don't waste your time to explain how to add 2+2 (unless it is a pleasure for you)

Just say "Copy the file to wherever you want. If you can't find the file - ask".
He already asked several questions so will not be "afraid to admit they don't understand"

And to answer earlier post: of course the installer can be run directly from USB stick
It remains unclear to me if the OP wants exactly this (to distribute the BOINC installer)
 


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Message 1720270 - Posted: 30 Aug 2015, 13:13:12 UTC

Thanks to all for trying to help. My failure too understand and follow directions in no fault of yours.

Just for background, i'm 89 years old with a high school ged. And in this independent elders apartment complex in which my wife and I live I'm considered one of the more knowledgeable concerning computers. Can you believe that?
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Message 1720320 - Posted: 30 Aug 2015, 16:22:14 UTC - in response to Message 1720270.  

Dave,

If you ever have questions, you are always welcome to ask us.

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Message 1720321 - Posted: 30 Aug 2015, 16:27:30 UTC - in response to Message 1720270.  
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Thanks to all for trying to help. My failure too understand and follow directions in no fault of yours.

Just for background, i'm 89 years old with a high school ged. And in this independent elders apartment complex in which my wife and I live I'm considered one of the more knowledgeable concerning computers. Can you believe that?

Sure can. But you are also living proof of my assertion that you CAN teach an old seadog new tricks, it just takes longer. (8{) Glad you are still willing and able to share your knowledge and skills with others.

I asked earlier, but you didn't answer - where in the USA are you? There might be a fellow Setizen close by who can be of direct help.
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