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Message 1800784 - Posted: 4 Jul 2016, 21:41:23 UTC - in response to Message 1800775.  

Ubuntu on Windows... Who would have thought..............

There is also the opposite approach.
How to run Windows software in Linux: Everything you need to know.
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I have tried Wine but that must be over 15 years since I did it:)
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Message 1803839 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 0:45:44 UTC

Why are people still trapped in such stuff as this?...


Microsoft ordered to fix 'excessively intrusive, insecure' Windows 10

A French regulator has issued Microsoft a formal warning over Windows 10, saying the operating system collects excessive amounts of personal data, ships that information illegally out of the EU, and has lousy security...



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Message 1803903 - Posted: 21 Jul 2016, 11:50:01 UTC - in response to Message 1803839.  

Why are people still trapped in such stuff as this?...


Microsoft ordered to fix 'excessively intrusive, insecure' Windows 10

A French regulator has issued Microsoft a formal warning over Windows 10, saying the operating system collects excessive amounts of personal data, ships that information illegally out of the EU, and has lousy security...



IT is what we allow it to be...
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Hi Martin,

... Because Window$ 10 is acting like spam/adware/a virus... you name it. :|

There are way too many people that have a bad outlook when it comes to Linux. They don't realize that it can now be installed, updated and used just like Window$... well, almost like Window$. ;) One thing that is even holding me back is that to run programs such as MMORPG games or programs only made for Window$, one needs to use the Window$ emulator Wine. I've tried using it in the past without success. I have Linux Mint on this PC as a dual boot.

L8er dude. :)
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Message 1806689 - Posted: 2 Aug 2016, 23:03:04 UTC
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The "Windows 10 fun" continues?...


So... I've FORCIBLY(!) updated a laptop I use to Windows 10... The system failed the Windows 10 Update check due to some VPN software on there... Very disruptively, I uninstalled the supposedly offending software to then be told by the Windows 10 Update nag box that the laptop was still unsuitable due to the (now uninstalled) VPN software and that I must buy a new Windows 10 laptop!!...

For the unknowing, all very nastily coercive...

So... A quick web search and some crazily nefarious voodoo forced a Windows 10 install to run.

And...

For anyone such as myself familiar with Linux systems, all I can say is what an incredible long and convoluted 'experience'! I could have installed a Linux system multiple times over from scratch!...


OK, so so far the Windows 10 seems to work. But what an inconvenient experience...


And for others' experiences... See:

Windows 10 pain: Reg man has 75 per cent upgrade failure rate

Comment As your humble HPC correspondent for The Register, I should probably be running Linux on the array of systems here at the home office suite. But I don't. I've been a Microsoft guy since I bought my first computer way back in 1984.

You, dear readers, can rip me for being a MStard, but it works worked well for my business and personal needs...

Until yesterday, that is...



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Message 1806692 - Posted: 2 Aug 2016, 23:18:50 UTC

Well the Win10 forced free upgrade period has been finished here for the last 3 days Martin and older versions can now finally update properly again without any Win10 hindrances. ;-)

Cheers.
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Message 1809711 - Posted: 16 Aug 2016, 21:48:07 UTC

Well, well, well... This puts a total 'spanner in the works' for those wishing to vet and control what updates go onto their Windows systems:


Farewell Patch Tuesday fragmentation: from October, MS will roll just one monthly patch

Downside: that zero-day is still [a] zero-month [long]

... Microsoft is implementing the monthly patch rollup it promised in May.

At the same time, however, Redmond has decided to kill off individual security patches, something that might not please sysadmins. Instead, a monthly security-only rollup will collect “all of the security patches for that month into a single update”...



So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


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Message 1809715 - Posted: 16 Aug 2016, 21:56:32 UTC

And just for a giggle for those of us conscientious for trying to keep our data a little safer and faster on a separate drive:


Some Windows 10 Anniversary Update: SSD freeze

OS and apps & data on different storage media? Oops...


Yet another SNAFU...

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Message 1809720 - Posted: 16 Aug 2016, 22:25:57 UTC - in response to Message 1809711.  
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Downside: that zero-day is still [a] zero-month [long]

... Microsoft is implementing the monthly patch rollup it promised in May.

At the same time, however, Redmond has decided to kill off individual security patches, something that might not please sysadmins. Instead, a monthly security-only rollup will collect “all of the security patches for that month into a single update”...


Critical updates will still be released out-of-band. Critical updates can still contain security fixes for critical flaws.


So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


Actually, as a SysAdmin I can tell you that this makes my job a whole lot easier, and it will make it easier for anyone who is behind on updates. Rather than waiting on 31 of 212 Updates to install while you restart or shutdown your computer after not being online for 4 months.. all you need is the latest update which contains all previous updates and you're done.

This is actually a very, very good thing. Anyone still living in the past, thinking updates need to happen slowly and incrementally hasn't been living in today's agile world will think this is a bad thing.
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Message 1809806 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 3:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 1809720.  

So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


Actually, as a SysAdmin I can tell you that this makes my job a whole lot easier, and it will make it easier for anyone who is behind on updates. Rather than waiting on 31 of 212 Updates to install while you restart or shutdown your computer after not being online for 4 months.. all you need is the latest update which contains all previous updates and you're done.

This is actually a very, very good thing. Anyone still living in the past, thinking updates need to happen slowly and incrementally hasn't been living in today's agile world will think this is a bad thing.

The other people who will think it is bad are supporting obsolete hardware and software that should long ago have been retired as they need to pick and choose just which update breaks some already broken part of their system. A few $ spent getting modern stuff would let them go home at quitting time.
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Message 1809866 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 10:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 1809806.  

So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


Actually, as a SysAdmin I can tell you that this makes my job a whole lot easier, and it will make it easier for anyone who is behind on updates. Rather than waiting on 31 of 212 Updates to install while you restart or shutdown your computer after not being online for 4 months.. all you need is the latest update which contains all previous updates and you're done.

This is actually a very, very good thing. Anyone still living in the past, thinking updates need to happen slowly and incrementally hasn't been living in today's agile world will think this is a bad thing.

The other people who will think it is bad are supporting obsolete hardware and software that should long ago have been retired as they need to pick and choose just which update breaks some already broken part of their system. A few $ spent getting modern stuff would let them go home at quitting time.


Wait, do you work at the same place I do? ;-)
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Message 1809868 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 10:18:53 UTC - in response to Message 1809866.  

So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


Actually, as a SysAdmin I can tell you that this makes my job a whole lot easier, and it will make it easier for anyone who is behind on updates. Rather than waiting on 31 of 212 Updates to install while you restart or shutdown your computer after not being online for 4 months.. all you need is the latest update which contains all previous updates and you're done.

This is actually a very, very good thing. Anyone still living in the past, thinking updates need to happen slowly and incrementally hasn't been living in today's agile world will think this is a bad thing.

The other people who will think it is bad are supporting obsolete hardware and software that should long ago have been retired as they need to pick and choose just which update breaks some already broken part of their system. A few $ spent getting modern stuff would let them go home at quitting time.


Wait, do you work at the same place I do? ;-)

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Message 1809905 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 13:27:42 UTC - in response to Message 1809866.  

So... I read that as yet another step towards "Microsoft systems" = "No User Choice".


Actually, as a SysAdmin I can tell you that this makes my job a whole lot easier, and it will make it easier for anyone who is behind on updates. Rather than waiting on 31 of 212 Updates to install while you restart or shutdown your computer after not being online for 4 months.. all you need is the latest update which contains all previous updates and you're done.

This is actually a very, very good thing. Anyone still living in the past, thinking updates need to happen slowly and incrementally hasn't been living in today's agile world will think this is a bad thing.

The other people who will think it is bad are supporting obsolete hardware and software that should long ago have been retired as they need to pick and choose just which update breaks some already broken part of their system. A few $ spent getting modern stuff would let them go home at quitting time.


Wait, do you work at the same place I do? ;-)

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Message 1809922 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 15:22:17 UTC

The only problem I've had since upgrading two Windows 7 computers to 10 is the display driver stops intermittently a couple times a day. They are only a couple year old Samsung flat screen displays, so I don't get it.
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Message 1809935 - Posted: 17 Aug 2016, 17:12:09 UTC - in response to Message 1809922.  

The only problem I've had since upgrading two Windows 7 computers to 10 is the display driver stops intermittently a couple times a day. They are only a couple year old Samsung flat screen displays, so I don't get it.


Keep in mind the display driver is in reference to your video card, not the physical display itself. If you're crunching on your GPUs, you'll likely need to adjust some settings. I'd advise to request help in Number Crunching.
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Message 1812222 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 17:03:35 UTC

Would you believe it!...


Microsoft promises free terrible coffee every month you use Edge

World's most unpopular browser, now with opt-in SuperStalking

Microsoft is so keen to attract users to its Edge browser that it will pay people to use it.

Folks in the US can earn credits that can be spent in the Microsoft online store on things like...




Is this all a new form of user "buy-in"?...

Wouldn't it be more effective to make and provide a better system for users in the first place?...


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Message 1812314 - Posted: 24 Aug 2016, 22:38:55 UTC - in response to Message 1812222.  

Is this all a new form of user "buy-in"?...

Wouldn't it be more effective to make and provide a better system for users in the first place?...


Well, yes it is a form of user buy-in and it's a tactic used in various other industries as well. Can't provide a better system unless you have people using it and providing feedback.
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Message 1824770 - Posted: 16 Oct 2016, 22:05:33 UTC

More of the same:

a: medicine?
b: soup?
c: Enhanced Experience(tm)?...


Like it or not, here are ALL your October Microsoft patches

Redmond kicks off the era of the force-fed security update

Microsoft is kicking off a controversial new security program this month by packaging all of its security updates into a single payload.

The October security release introduces Redmond's new policy of bundling all security bulletins as one download. While more convenient for end users, who now get just one bundle, the move will irk many administrators, who had preferred to individually test and apply each patch to avoid compatibility problems...




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Message 1824805 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 1:35:14 UTC - in response to Message 1824770.  

I, for one, applaud the all-updates approach. Microsoft tests their updates in-house with fully patched systems. SysAdmins who still hodge-podge their updates because they're afraid of compatibility issues need to get with the times - and vendors who refuse to move to agile software development need to do the same. Instantaneous updates have been here for a while in the Software-As-A-Service arena. It's no surprise that traditional software was going to move in the same direction. But hey, let's all piss and moan about this change because we can't stand change in the IT industry! Wait...
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Message 1824828 - Posted: 17 Oct 2016, 3:29:16 UTC - in response to Message 1824805.  

I, for one, applaud the all-updates approach. Microsoft tests their updates in-house with fully patched systems. SysAdmins who still hodge-podge their updates because they're afraid of compatibility issues need to get with the times - and vendors who refuse to move to agile software development need to do the same. Instantaneous updates have been here for a while in the Software-As-A-Service arena. It's no surprise that traditional software was going to move in the same direction. But hey, let's all piss and moan about this change because we can't stand change in the IT industry! Wait...

Absolutely. Of course there are lots of admins who are running on old expired licenses and won't pay for an upgrade to their mission critical software. Well maybe the admin would but he can't convince the boss to fork over the cash. Let their software fail or be the subject of the next wikileaks dump.
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Message 1836921 - Posted: 19 Dec 2016, 15:01:35 UTC

Phew... This one looks to be rather dubious whereby you are opted in by default:


Allow Experimentation on Windows 10

... Microsoft can "experimentally" change particular settings on the Windows system remotely. This is done to test and/or check certain configurations. You should disable this setting if you don't with to participate in this testing program...


Who's system is that in any case?...

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