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Message 1709681 - Posted: 7 Aug 2015, 11:34:20 UTC

Yesterday the Voting Rights Act of 1965 turned 50 years old, and the fight continues. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/voting-rights-act-50-years_55c12a20e4b05c05b01f6a0c?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%2BVoices&section=black-voices&kvcommref=mostpopular From the days of the old Jim Crow laws (poll taxes) to today's James Crow (Esq.) voter ID laws (new poll taxes) the fight continues to keep the constitutional rights for voting on an even keel.

Earlier this week the Federal Appeals Court in Texas struck down their Voter ID law as unconstitutional, and today the good fight continues in North Carolina. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/10/north-carolina-voting-trial_n_7754876.html


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Message 1709876 - Posted: 7 Aug 2015, 22:29:41 UTC - in response to Message 1709681.  
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Yesterday the Voting Rights Act of 1965 turned 50 years old, and the fight continues. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/voting-rights-act-50-years_55c12a20e4b05c05b01f6a0c?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%2BVoices&section=black-voices&kvcommref=mostpopular From the days of the old Jim Crow laws (poll taxes) to today's James Crow (Esq.) voter ID laws (new poll taxes) the fight continues to keep the constitutional rights for voting on an even keel.

Earlier this week the Federal Appeals Court in Texas struck down their Voter ID law as unconstitutional, and today the good fight continues in North Carolina. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/10/north-carolina-voting-trial_n_7754876.html


Happy 50th :) So many sacricificed and too much suffering to let such a landmark Act get eroded.

When it was a**sed up in 2013, I remember being impressed by the quote reproduced below (from your first link).

Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg... In her dissent... argued that the conservative justices were stripping from the Voting Rights Act the very mechanism that had made it such a success.

"Throwing out preclearance when it has worked and is continuing to work to stop discriminatory changes," she wrote, "is like throwing away your umbrella in a rainstorm because you are not getting wet."


To expose so much idiocy with an umbrella analogy? Genius! :)

Good news from Texas then and all eyes on North Carolina...
We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Apart from pain. And maybe humiliation. And obviously death. And failure. But apart from fear, pain and humiliation, failure and the unknown and death - we have nothing to fear. Who’s with me?
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Message 1709963 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 6:49:14 UTC - in response to Message 1709681.  

Yesterday the Voting Rights Act of 1965 turned 50 years old, and the fight continues. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/voting-rights-act-50-years_55c12a20e4b05c05b01f6a0c?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&ir=Black%2BVoices&section=black-voices&kvcommref=mostpopular From the days of the old Jim Crow laws (poll taxes) to today's James Crow (Esq.) voter ID laws (new poll taxes) the fight continues to keep the constitutional rights for voting on an even keel.

Earlier this week the Federal Appeals Court in Texas struck down their Voter ID law as unconstitutional, and today the good fight continues in North Carolina. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/10/north-carolina-voting-trial_n_7754876.html



Uhh... no it didn't.


No. 14-411271
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Appeal from the United States District Court
for the Southern District of Texas
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Before STEWART, Chief Judge, HAYNES, Circuit Judge, and BROWN,
District Judge. *

HAYNES, Circuit Judge:

In 2011, Texas (“the State”) passed Senate Bill 14 (“SB 14”), which requires individuals to present one of several forms of photo identification in order to vote. See Act of May 16, 2011, 82d Leg., R.S., ch. 123, 2011 Tex. Gen. Laws 619. Plaintiffs filed suit challenging the constitutionality and legality of the law.

The district court held that SB 14 was enacted with a racially discriminatory purpose, has a racially discriminatory effect, is a poll tax, and unconstitutionally burdens the right to vote. See Veasey v. Perry, 71 F. Supp. 3d 627, 633 (S.D. Tex. 2014).

We VACATE and REMAND the Plaintiffs’ discriminatory purpose claim for further consideration in light of the discussion below. If on remand the district court finds that SB 14 was passed with a discriminatory purpose, then the law must be invalidated. However, because the finding on remand may be different, we also address other arguments raised by the Plaintiffs.

We AFFIRM the district court’s finding that SB 14 has a discriminatory effect in violation of Section 2 of the Voting Rights Act and remand for consideration of the proper remedy. We VACATE the district court’s holding that SB 14 is a poll tax and RENDER judgment in the State’s favor. Because the same relief is available to Plaintiffs under the discriminatory effect finding affirmed herein, under the doctrine of constitutional avoidance, we do not address the merits of whether SB 14 unconstitutionally burdens the right to vote under the First and Fourteenth Amendments. We therefore VACATE this portion of the district court’s opinion and DISMISS Plaintiffs’ First and Fourteenth Amendment claims.

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http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/nlj/Veasey%20v%20Abbott%205th%20Circuit%20opinion.pdf

The Fifth Circuit:

    1. Vacated and Remanded the 'Discriminatory Purpose' claim for further consideration.


    2. Affirmed the 'Discriminatory Effect' claim under Sec. 2 of the Voting Rights Act and remanded it for 'consideration of the proper remedy'.


    3. Vacated the 'poll tax' claim and ruled in the State's favor.


    4. Did not consider the 'unconstitutionally burdens the right to vote' claim under a legal doctrine, but Vacated and Dismissed the Plaintiff's 1st and 14th amendment claims.



The 5th Circuit did NOT declare the law Unconstitutional.

The 5th circuit DID tell the District Court to reconsider the 'Discriminatory Purpose' claim, told the District Court to 'fix' the 'Discriminatory effect' claim, ruled the law was NOT a poll tax, and effectively threw out the 'unconstitutionally burdens the right to vote' claim.

SB14(2011) is STILL in effect, pending further action by the District Court, future appeals of its eventual ruling, or the State of Texas' further appeals of this ruling (either to the Full 5th Circuit Federal Appeals Court (en banc) or to the US Supreme Court, or both.

No matter what happens, it is very likely that the law will be in effect for Years.

The one claim the 5th circuit upheld was 'discriminatory effect'. In other words, not that people WERE discriminated against, but that they thought that they were, no doubt in part because of all the bad press the opponents of the law gave.

What a load of rot.

Now then, I must say that even though I have some reservations over the 'Communist / Nazi dictatorship' overtones of "Papers Please!", I do realize that in today's modern society, especially in the big city where people don't even know their nearest neighbors, there is a need for proper ID to establish who we are to the rest of us.

We have to show proper ID in order to legally get a job (Federal law -- form I-9).

We have to show proper ID in order to collect Government Benefits under many of the Government's Social Programs... Again, it is Federal law.

When I enrolled my kids in Public School, I had to show their Birth Certificates and Social Security Cards. Again, the Law.

When I got married, I had to show My (as did my wife) ID to get the license.

The few times I have been pulled over, the first thing the Police officer asks for is my drivers license (my ID).

Just about every interaction a person has with the Government (as well as a host of others), an ID is required.

Since voting is the most solemn function a citizen does involving Government, that is expressing their opinion on who their Government Officials will be and what policies the Government will follow (local and state laws and state constitutional amendments (here in Texas, for instance)), and the People have a compelling interest in ensuring the integrity of the vote, just what is so wrong with showing an ID when voting to make sure the person trying to vote matches the person on the registration rolls they claim to be?

What kind of ID are we talking about? Simple.

Either a Drivers License (with photo), or a Personal Identification Card (with photo), or an Election Identification Certificate (with photo), or a Concealed Handgun permit (with photo), all issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety, and furthermore either has not expired or has expired within the previous 60 days.

OR

A Certificate of Citizenship (with photo) issued by the US Federal Government.

OR

A Passport (with photo), or a Military ID (with photo) issued by the US Federal Government and, again, either not expired, or has expired within the last 60 days.

Well, what about the cost involved? Simple, that is taken care of...

The Texas DPS will issue a Election Identification Certificate at NO charge if you lack other ID. All you need is proof of voter eligibility and proof of citizenship.

Proof of eligibility: Your voter registration card. If you don't have one yet, you can fill out the form and apply for one down at the DPS office during your application process for the certificate.

Proof of citizenship: If you were born in Texas, your Birth Certificate is just fine. And yes, the fee for it is waived if you indicate that it is for the purpose of voting. If you weren't born in Texas, but in another state, well... see your state for a certified copy of your birth certificate. If you weren't born in the US, but are naturalized, well.. you should already have enough id to vote.

I repeat, Texas will give you the ID to Vote for FREE. All you have to do is go get it.

If you can't be arsed to go get some things that are NECESSARY for life in modern society, namely ID, why is it that you ARE arsed enough to vote?

Remember:

First: Voter registration card (free) + Birth Certificate (Free for this purpose if born in Texas) -> Election Certificate card (free)...

Then, for just a little money:

Voter registration card (free from last step) + Birth Certificate (free from last step) and either:

If you are 59 or younger, $16 -> Texas Personal Identification Card good for 6 years. OR

If you are 60 or older, $6 -> Texas Personal Identification Card that NEVER expires. OR

If you are 18 to 84, $25 + pass driving tests and eye test -> Texas driver's license good for 6 years. Under 18 or over 84 = reduced fees.

Replacements, name changes, or address changes are $11 on both cards.

There ya go...

If you had NO ID, follow these steps and end up with an ID (Texas DL or ID card) that will not only allow you to vote but also have one that is NEEDED to fully participate in our society (get a job, get Government Services, get a bank account, etc. etc. etc.)

Remember, if EVERYONE has to show ID to vote, and IF the ID required is either one you SHOULD have anyway, or is available for free (with just a small investment of time), just HOW is the requirement discriminatory?

Remember, if someone tells you "We don't let [insert hate term here} vote here! Get out!" it is on them. They have committed a serious crime, and deserve a nice long jail term.

If someone says "They will just discriminate against me because I am a [whatever], so I am not going to try", it is on that person.

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Message 1709985 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 8:06:18 UTC
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I see some people have trouble understanding why such voter ID laws are racist and discriminatory. So here are some useful links to help you understand.

12 reasons why Texas voter ID law is racist

How racism underlies the voter id laws: academics weigh in

An interesting graph to consider

Of course there was also that time when a Republican openly admitted that voter ID laws are designed to keep democratic voters away during elections (cuz surprise, poor people and African Americans tend to vote more often for the Democratic party). Now what is worse, setting up laws that hurt minorities because you are a racist, or setting up laws to hurt minorities because they vote for your opponent?

Republicans whine a lot about tyranny by the government, but as it stands, they come closer to actual tyrants than the Democrats.
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Message 1710007 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 11:14:08 UTC - in response to Message 1709985.  
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I see some people have trouble understanding why such voter ID laws are racist and discriminatory. So here are some useful links to help you understand.

12 reasons why Texas voter ID law is racist

How racism underlies the voter id laws: academics weigh in

An interesting graph to consider

Of course there was also that time when a Republican openly admitted that voter ID laws are designed to keep democratic voters away during elections (cuz surprise, poor people and African Americans tend to vote more often for the Democratic party). Now what is worse, setting up laws that hurt minorities because you are a racist, or setting up laws to hurt minorities because they vote for your opponent?

Republicans whine a lot about tyranny by the government, but as it stands, they come closer to actual tyrants than the Democrats.

This is nonsense.
4. Texas officials have not informed the public about the new law.
Not true!

The voting laws requiring photo IDs inherently racially discriminatory, as Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg maintained in her blistering dissent Saturday morning?

One Chart Shows the Depressingly Racist Truth About Voter ID Laws You Tried to Ignore

Lies, damned lies, and statistics:)

A major problem in today's US election is the low turnout.
There are many reasons why American voters do not vote. One reason could be that you have to take time off work and get salary reductions.
- It is problematic that the leader of the world's most powerful country and democracy sitting on such a weak popular mandate, writes Anders Hellner, US expert at the Institute of International Affairs.

Just under 50 percent of eligible voters choosing who should become the country's president and vice president for the next four years.
Compared to Sweden, where politicians prey on us and it is a duty to vote, do not worry in the same way in the United States. Some examples: When Ronald Reagan was re-elected in "a landslide cool" in 1984, he did so with 32 percent of the votes. Bill Clinton was elected in 1992 with only 22 percent. Voter turnout in the US has fallen rather than risen in recent elections.

Today only 59 % turn up on election day.
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Message 1710047 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 14:48:37 UTC - in response to Message 1710007.  

A major problem in today's US election is the low turnout.
There are many reasons why American voters do not vote. One reason could be that you have to take time off work and get salary reductions.
- It is problematic that the leader of the world's most powerful country and democracy sitting on such a weak popular mandate, writes Anders Hellner, US expert at the Institute of International Affairs.

Just under 50 percent of eligible voters choosing who should become the country's president and vice president for the next four years.
Compared to Sweden, where politicians prey on us and it is a duty to vote, do not worry in the same way in the United States. Some examples: When Ronald Reagan was re-elected in "a landslide cool" in 1984, he did so with 32 percent of the votes. Bill Clinton was elected in 1992 with only 22 percent. Voter turnout in the US has fallen rather than risen in recent elections.

Look at the quality of the scum that run, look at how much cash is spent on attack ads, there is the answer for the turnout!
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Message 1710055 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 15:01:53 UTC - in response to Message 1710047.  

A major problem in today's US election is the low turnout.
There are many reasons why American voters do not vote. One reason could be that you have to take time off work and get salary reductions.
- It is problematic that the leader of the world's most powerful country and democracy sitting on such a weak popular mandate, writes Anders Hellner, US expert at the Institute of International Affairs.

Just under 50 percent of eligible voters choosing who should become the country's president and vice president for the next four years.
Compared to Sweden, where politicians prey on us and it is a duty to vote, do not worry in the same way in the United States. Some examples: When Ronald Reagan was re-elected in "a landslide cool" in 1984, he did so with 32 percent of the votes. Bill Clinton was elected in 1992 with only 22 percent. Voter turnout in the US has fallen rather than risen in recent elections.

Look at the quality of the scum that run, look at how much cash is spent on attack ads, there is the answer for the turnout!

Calling them scum is perpaps an exaggeration.
But that you need money to run for office is true.
A LOT of money.
But you can vote and don't let them in.
Quite simple really...
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Message 1710162 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 20:23:11 UTC - in response to Message 1710094.  
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so why should it be such a big deal to ask our citizens to show their Identification Card when they show up to vote?

Not showing a ID card when voting is....
It doesnt work in a democracy.
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Message 1710171 - Posted: 8 Aug 2015, 20:57:28 UTC - in response to Message 1710094.  

Well let me start by first saying that I don't think we should allow just anyone who shows up at the polls to vote. I think we need to use at least some form (of) discrimination in who we allow to vote. Without some rudimentary form of discrimination, we are allowing ourselves to be voted into failure at an accelerating rate.

Our educational system has been failing at teaching our youngsters even the fundamentals of self-government, natural rights and what the rule of law means. Because our educational system is failing at teaching some of these basics, it is affecting their attitudes, motivations and behavior.

One of our founders, Thomas Jefferson, recognized this and expressed the idea that a properly functioning democracy *depends* on an informed electorate. He also said "The field of knowledge is the common prosperity to all mankind." We are failing to pass on the field of knowledge to our younger generations.

Without further expanding on this, let me just say that having to show an Identification Card is the *least* form of discrimination we can demand to prevent the 11 to 30 million illegals (no one knows how many) from showing up at the polls and tipping the scales of a legislative question, in which they have no long-term interest, towards the further demise of this country.

And as the other major listed, without a proper Identification Card, you are not allowed to participate in the most basics of other aspects of living in the United States--so why should it be such a big deal to ask our citizens to show their Identification Card when they show up to vote?

Yes, and that identification card must state on its face that you are white, male, conservative, christian, literate, have the required IQ and paid your poll tax. We do understand your thinking. Of course we reject it.
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Message 1710210 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 0:23:15 UTC

so why should it be such a big deal to ask our citizens to show their Identification Card when they show up to vote?


You are required to show some form of acknowledged documentation when you register to vote, normally this included a drivers license, birth certificate, etc.. The procedure at the time of voting is different depending upon which state you reside in. In Pennsylvania, you give the volunteers at the voting site your name and they look it up in a book that also has your address and signature, which you used when you registered. You sign the book and signatures are compared. This has been the general way of voting for local, state, and federal elections since before I was born, and I turn 70 this year, for white people and those minorities that did not live in those locals, mainly in the South but other locations also, where a poll tax was applied under the old Jim Crow laws. Those poll taxes included things like how many marbles were in a glass jar, any idiotic thing that the White Citizens committees could come up with that would prevent minorities from voting. There was at one time in N.C. a requirement that you has to recite the preamble of the Constitution.

The Voting Rights Act of 1965 did away with all of that nonsense, and minorities were allowed to present the same type of documentation and follow the same rules at voting time as white people. Everything was alright until 2008 and Senator Barack Hussein Obama, when the number of minorities, especially African-Americans, voting -- sky rocketed. All of a sudden you hear the Tea/Republican party screaming as loud as they could about voter fraud.

They screamed and cried all the way to the conservative Supreme Court, where they used the asinine theory that because the country had voted in an African-American president that Section V. of the Voting Rights Act, which BTW was the strongest part of the Act, was no longer needed. With Section V. now history, and the asinine theory of in-person voter fraud being screamed loud and long, we now have the new James E. Crow (Esq.) Voter ID laws.

With pre-clearance out of the way, in less than 24 hours, you now have those states that had to pre-clear any changes to voter requirements, passing these new Voter ID laws, which is nothing but new poll taxes. Not only was there an increase in voter ID requirements, some of which were and still are impossible to obtain in a reasonable amount of time for most low-income people regardless of race. Along with these new requirements, we also see things like early voting, same day registration, etc. either cut down to the bare minimums or removed entirely. One of the most popular, was/is 'Souls To The Polls", where after Sunday services, car, van, bus load of African-Americans went to the polls to vote, was/is effectively eviscerated. Some states have stopped this practice.

In Texas for instance, a gun license is valid, but some types of what was normal identification is no longer valid, including Student photo IDs from colleges & universities. Now does that make any normal sense?

All of this to effectively shut down the minority vote, again mainly in the south. Remember that most of the minority votes Democratic, so that also decreases the number of Democratic votes.


There has never been any sign of the type of massive in-person voter fraud that the Tea/Republican party has professed, in fact the number is so low that it's hardly noticeable. But, if you scream a lie loud and long enough, and have a semi logical reasoning behind it, people will tend to believe it. To answer the above quote, I have a question for you -- Why after all these many years of what has been established VOTER IDs, do we all of a sudden need new additional IDs simply because an African-American was voted into the highest office of this country not once, but twice, with not only the largest minority turn out but also lest I forget the largest WHITE WOMAN turnout in history of this country. Why, please explain it so that this simple old retired black man can understand - WHY?


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Message 1710214 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 0:51:16 UTC - in response to Message 1710210.  

Why, please explain it so that this simple old retired black man can understand - WHY?

Cliff you understand and don't pretend you don't. The answer is a self serving desire to keep the status quo. If you black people voted for conservative Rs those things would not be happening, you brought it upon yourselves.
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Message 1710221 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 1:34:34 UTC

Here in Scandinavia the IRS keeps track of our citizens.
ID is not a requirement to pay tax.
Yes you need an ID card when voting but then again you need that card to survive...
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Message 1710224 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 1:54:40 UTC - in response to Message 1710221.  

Yes you need an ID card when voting but then again you need that card to survive...

Jann I suspect that in your country the purpose is not to disenfranchise a segment of the citizens. It is not that way here in parts of my country.
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Message 1710229 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 2:19:12 UTC - in response to Message 1710214.  

Why, please explain it so that this simple old retired black man can understand - WHY?

Cliff you understand and don't pretend you don't. The answer is a self serving desire to keep the status quo. If you black people voted for conservative Rs those things would not be happening, you brought it upon yourselves.



The sad thing is that when the Tea/Republican was truly the party of Lincoln, many African-Americans voted for that party, especially in the south. It was during the 1950-60s when the Civil Rights era was beginning and the southern conservative democrats (Dixicrats) and their three cousins (Klu, Klux, & Klan), along with the White Citizens Committees started to lose their power over minorities, they couldn't handle the changes and they simply lost their ever loving minds. When they found that like minded folks in the old Republican party would accept them, they switched parties like stampede going over a cliff and the Tea/Republican party sucked them up like a vacuum cleaner. When the voting public saw what was happening, the parity alignment of the two parties shifted a compete 180 degrees. Even though there are progressives & conservatives in both parties, the greater number of progressives are now Democratic and the same with the conservatives in the Tea/Republican party.

You said we brought it upon ourselves, you have a very strong point. And, I say regardless of what your personal leanings are, be they progressive and/or conservative, fiscal or/and social, why stick with a political party that will deny you the right to vote and if they had their way the right to exist at all as citizens. I realize that there are some African-American conservatives that are in the Tea/Republican party, but I really can't for the life of me see why they remain. One of the most prominent ones that I can think of is Dr. Ben Carson, who graduated from one of the most highly ranked medical schools, is running for president, and thinks that #blacklivesmatter is silly and divisive. Oh, and don't forget what's-his-face in the Supreme Court, who got where he is through affirmative action, and thinks that affirmative action was a bad idea and should be abolished.


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Message 1710267 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 4:26:16 UTC - in response to Message 1710210.  

You are required to show some form of acknowledged documentation when you register to vote, normally this included a drivers license, birth certificate, etc.. The procedure at the time of voting is different depending upon which state you reside in. In Pennsylvania, you give the volunteers at the voting site your name and they look it up in a book that also has your address and signature, which you used when you registered. You sign the book and signatures are compared. This has been the general way of voting for local, state, and federal elections since before I was born, and I turn 70 this year.

Im 63 and thats how it has been In my part of New York State. Exactly the same.
Now I live in a small town. When the wife and I vote the election poll guardians are what ever they are called. All know us. But they still ask our names we sign the book and they check the signature and then hand us the electronic form nowdays to fill out.

What happens in the big cities? Probally more of the same thing.
Maybe we need the blue ink on the thumb like in Afghanistan.
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Message 1710315 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 8:54:10 UTC - in response to Message 1710210.  

First here is a nice piece in the New Yorker about the myth of voter fraud.

There has never been any sign of the type of massive in-person voter fraud that the Tea/Republican party has professed, in fact the number is so low that it's hardly noticeable. But, if you scream a lie loud and long enough, and have a semi logical reasoning behind it, people will tend to believe it. To answer the above quote, I have a question for you -- Why after all these many years of what has been established VOTER IDs, do we all of a sudden need new additional IDs simply because an African-American was voted into the highest office of this country not once, but twice, with not only the largest minority turn out but also lest I forget the largest WHITE WOMAN turnout in history of this country. Why, please explain it so that this simple old retired black man can understand - WHY?

Indeed, and the most ironic part is that the irregularities at voting booths that do happen are generally caused by...you guessed it, the Tea Party. Here is another link with some interesting stories about how the Tea Party is trying to overthrow the American democracy.

Of course, that stuff gets under reported.
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Message 1710328 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 10:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1709963.  

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There's that silly document again getting in the way of stopping voter Fraud .

Nice no know a super power is so open to voter Fraud.

But it's ok to have a photo car licence ?? to drive .......
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Message 1710364 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 12:46:42 UTC - in response to Message 1710224.  
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Yes you need an ID card when voting but then again you need that card to survive...

Jann I suspect that in your country the purpose is not to disenfranchise a segment of the citizens. It is not that way here in parts of my country.

Strange...
But why do so few Americans vote?

Btw I have applied for a US Green Card.
No ID was required to get it.
Only 2 photos of me.

Complete your application
Dear Jan,

Add the necessary photo/s.

We remind you to add the required photos so that we will be able to submit your application on time to the US State Department.


And they actually phoned me from Houston Texas to remind me about the photos:)
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Message 1710390 - Posted: 9 Aug 2015, 14:26:34 UTC - in response to Message 1710328.  

Kong

There's that silly document again getting in the way of stopping voter Fraud .

Nice no know a super power is so open to voter Fraud.

But it's ok to have a photo car licence ?? to drive .......


In what universe do you live in where there is the massive out right in-person voter fraud that you speak of? IT'S A MYTH!! You might find this very interesting - http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/09/7-papers-4-government-inquiries-2-news-investigations-and-1-court-ruling-proving-voter-fraud-is-mostly-a-myth/.

As far as a driver's license is concerned, it is a privilege, while voting is a constitutional right, that people had died for, both black and white. We have a sitting ranking member of Congress, Rep. John Lewis, who was almost beaten to death and was left on the side of the road to die from his wounds by the white police at the Edmund Pettus bridge in Selma, Alabama in what is know as Bloody Sunday, to get that constitutional right. Even though the Act affects all people, it was primarily to allow the black community to register and vote on a even keel in all elections. The African-American community is the only community in this country that has to ask/beg/petition Congress to reaffirm the legality of the Voting Right Act, which they have done each and every time that its' renewal has come up in a very bipartisan way, until this time when the Tea/Republican party is attempting to derail it. It should be made permanent so that we don't have to go through this year-after-year.

Strange...
But why do so few Americans vote?


One of the main reasons that there has always been a low voter turnout is that many Americans think that their vote doesn't count. When Sen. Barack Hussein Obama starting running in for president in 2006/07, we saw as what might have been a beginning of a new day, not only for the country, but especially for the African-American community. The Tea/Republican party blamed the massive African-American turnout, simply because of race, (they may have had a very small point); and immediately began discounting the exit polls. They even attempted to overlook the large number of whites that voted for him, especially white women. Check out the graphs at the bottom to see how the African-American community voted - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/50-years-after-the-voting-rights-act-heres-how-far-we-still-have-to-go_55c30663e4b0f1cbf1e3c01b?utm_hp_ref=black-voices&kvcommref=mostpopular. Watching clips from Faux News on their reaction to both of his elections was like, excuse my expression, like having an or*&&%$sm. Unfortunately, our worst fears came true. The Tea/Republican party would stand in his way and attempt to block everything he fought accomplish.

To give you the most recent example, I give you the Nuclear Arms Deal with the Republic of Iran. I don't have to go into the details as how the Tea/republicanthey are abundantly clear, and the ads against the deal, before anyone in Congress even saw the deal was/is massive. But, then you have 29 of the most respected scientists in the country who are for the deal. - http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/09/world/29-us-scientists-praise-iran-nuclear-deal-in-letter-to-obama.html?_r=0.


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