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Message 1716207 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 0:03:24 UTC

State inquiries into Planned Parenthood turn up no evidence of wrongdoing

This thread would be better named "The Republican War Against Women" seeing as the fake videos are now being used as an excuse to not fund women's health services.
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Message 1716376 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 7:25:58 UTC

What's with America and abortion , I thought this was settled decades ago ...

Tell the christian's and catholic's to bugger off .

Back to coat hangers and woman dying

it's the 21st Century fer "F"'s sake
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Message 1716381 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 7:30:25 UTC - in response to Message 1716376.  

What's with America and abortion , I thought this was settled decades ago ...

Tell the christian's and catholic's to bugger off .

Back to coat hangers and woman dying

it's the 21st Century fer "F"'s sake

Glen I agree 100%
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Message 1716458 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 14:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 1716447.  

Brutus , Brutus , Brutus ......shakes head in disgust .

First Line of your Post


Bill O'Reilly's talking points



You serious man you listen to that shock jock and take what he says for real !!!!!!


-The Democratic Party has gone so far left, most American's are disgusted.

-Despite redistributing trillions of dollars, the poverty rates for all groups have gone up.

-High taxes and constricting regulations have actually harmed the poor.

-The Iran nuke deal is bad. ISIS continues to run wild committing atrocities all over the place.

-Iraq has collapsed, Afghanistan will soon collapse.

-Ukraine has been battered by Putin.

-The Middle East is one giant mess.

-All on president Obama’s watch.

-Here, democrats oppose keeping illegals out of the USA and support entitlement spending on them even as the national debt approaches $20T.

-Democrats oppose holding foreign nationals who defy deportation and commit violent crimes responsible.

-Democrats oppose investigating planned parenthood for allegedly selling the organs of babies.

-Democrats support leniency for dangerous drug dealers, calling them "non-violent."

-The list of craziness goes on and on.


As i chuckle ......i better clean my mirror




The subject of abortion is still not settled. Even though Roe v. Wade was a supreme court decision 43 years ago, that does not mean that it is settled. The American people accepted it under the terms (1) do it if you want, but don't tell me about it, and (2) don't make me pay for it. We've been arguing about it since then. There are several examples where supreme court decisions have been reversed. Google "supreme court cases that have been reversed" and you'll easily find cases such as Dred Scott v. Sandford and Plessy v. Ferguson--two of which have been mentioned in these forums in recent past. (Same sex marriage is going to be another unsettled thorn in the backside...)


So much for real freedom then i spose ....


And now, we find out we are paying for it and being forced to watch it.


ok dirty unsaintised places where (what is a medical procedure) can and will be perform'd is ok while your at it your going to say a alcahol can't get medical help too , how about 1 that's born mentally retarded and ends up on drugs.

As for being forced to watch a abortion on T.V is what i think your saying , your system i think is still a private system even if you have started to bring in a harf cocked medicare system .But your a christen right ...
Ofcause implementing special conditions so you can have a good and affordable Health Care just can't be done no way .. ( Reds under me bed) ahhhhhhhh

You can always change channel or complain to the T.V station or advertisers or government body , member your small gov so can't see everything
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Message 1716479 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 14:44:34 UTC - in response to Message 1716447.  

Bill O'Reilly's talking points yesterday sum up the results of democrat, politically correct, left-wing policies quite nicely.

Oh did he now?

-The Democratic Party has gone so far left, most American's are disgusted.

You should keep in mind that O'Reilly does not speak for all Americans or even most Americans. He speaks for an increasingly less relevant minority of white 70 year old wealthy males. Thats not exactly representative of America.

-Despite redistributing trillions of dollars, the poverty rates for all groups have gone up.

Poverty rates have been going up ever since Reagan took over.

-High taxes and constricting regulations have actually harmed the poor.

Americans don't know what high taxes are. Compared to the rest of the industrialized world, American Federal tax rates are pretty low. Of course, there are also state tax rates, but Obama isn't responsible for what states decide to do now is he?

-The Iran nuke deal is bad. ISIS continues to run wild committing atrocities all over the place.

What exactly about the Iran deal is bad? Right, nothing. Its a diplomatic victory, but it seems America is starting to forget about the whole idea that diplomacy is a thing and rather just bombs everything straight away. IS is the result of the American invasion of Iraq, which I should remind you, happened under a Republican president.

-Iraq has collapsed, Afghanistan will soon collapse.

Disasters caused by Republicans which Obama simply inherited. You can't expect someone to fix something which was already fundamentally broken to begin with. Iraq and Afghanistan were going to be failures, no matter who was sitting in the White House.

-Ukraine has been battered by Putin.

And Obama is somehow responsible for Putin's actions?

-The Middle East is one giant mess.

And Obama is responsible for that how exactly? We already determined that IS, Iraq and Afghanistan were the result of Republican policy, which basically covers the whole mess in the Middle East. Oh wait, there is Yemen, but the US isn't involved in that conflict so I don't see how that relates to Obama.

-All on president Obama’s watch.

You say that like Obama somehow should have prevented all these things, despite the fact that Obama could have never logically prevented any of these things from happening, at least not without starting a major war with someone.

Also, all of this happened under the watch of a Republican congress, which so far has spend all its energy on trying to stop Obamacare, defund Obamacare, defund the Federal Government or torpedo the Iran deal which would result in the total destruction of the US's credibility as a foreign policy actor. But sure, Obama is who you should be mad at.

-Here, democrats oppose keeping illegals out of the USA and support entitlement spending on them even as the national debt approaches $20T.

Republicans suggest building a giant wall that costs billions of dollars to build and operate but won't actually stop anyone from illegally entering the country. Republicans suggest deporting all illegal even though its calculated that this would be the largest razzia in the world and would cost the economy about a 120 billion dollars. And they dare call themselves the fiscally responsible party.

-Democrats oppose investigating planned parenthood for allegedly selling the organs of babies.

Yeah, because the evidence that this supposedly happened was proven fake over and over again.

Republicans on the other hand want to use fake evidence to start a criminal investigation against a group that provides a completely legal service to women. Kinda like how every dictator in the world gets rid of opponents. Just trump up some fake charges and throw them in prison.

-Democrats support leniency for dangerous drug dealers, calling them "non-violent."

Democrats support leniency for non violent drug users who are currently costing the state tons of money in a failed war against drugs.

The subject of abortion is still not settled. Even though Roe v. Wade was a supreme court decision 43 years ago, that does not mean that it is settled.

Actually it does mean its settled, but Conservatives can't handle the fact that not everyone thinks like them when it comes to the sanctity of life and so they throw a temper tantrum in the hope it gets them what they want. Pathetic really.

And now, we find out we are paying for it and being forced to watch it.

Forced to watch it? Really? I was not aware that you are required to go to an abortion clinic every month to watch the abortion procedure. I was not aware this requirement was mandatory. Oh wait, thats because you aren't forced to watch people get abortions.

The American people are sick, disgusted and horrified by this. And the American people are sick and tired of people who keep calling this "women's access to affordable health care." And the American people are horrified to find out we are paying for it.

Much like Bill O'Reilly, you also don't speak for the 'American people'. You speak for yourself, and your speech coincides with what anti choice protesters also think.

This is nothing short of "tax payer funded murder for profit" and there is no defense for this. And if you look at the actual demographic statistics, the left should be calling it what it is from their perspective.

Oh, you know what really is tax payer funded murder for profit, but something Republicans absolutely love? The Iraq war. The war against terror. The prison industrial complex. Those are things Republicans love to throw taxpayer money at and which only produce death and misery.

Oh, and before you take those lies of anti choice domestic terrorists at face value, maybe ask yourself how you can be anti choice but at the same time also don't want people to use contraceptives, aka stuff that prevents the necessity of abortions? Maybe you wouldn't need to abort 1,7 million unborn fetuses every year if instead of not teaching people sex ed, or the useless nonsense of abstinence only sex ed, maybe you could teach people to use a condom and the pill, make both easily accessible and watch the abortion rates drop.

The democrats cannot reconcile this. Especially when their democratic front runner for the next presidential election defends planned parenthood while attacking Scott Walker in one moment and then in another moment attacks Jeb Bush's stance on "anchor babies" by saying "They're called babies." The hypocrisy is overwhelming!

In your case, the irony of accusing the Democrats of hypocrisy while at the same time defending the Republicans is overwhelming.

Yeah, they are called babies because they are born already.
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Message 1716495 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 15:21:05 UTC - in response to Message 1716376.  

What's with America and abortion , I thought this was settled decades ago ...

Tell the christian's and catholic's to bugger off .

Back to coat hangers and woman dying

it's the 21st Century fer "F"'s sake

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Also, I really doubt Americans are being forced to watch abortions, because if they were watching actual abortions there would be more understanding of the procedure and less hysteria (no pun intended).

Its amazing how freaked out these right wing nut jobs get about anything do with women and how little they actually know about it.
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Message 1716529 - Posted: 21 Aug 2015, 16:24:56 UTC - in response to Message 1716495.  

Its amazing how freaked out these right wing nut jobs get about anything do with women and how little they actually know about it.

Well, that would humanize them in their eyes and that goes against their view of them as chattel.
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Message 1716822 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 5:18:51 UTC

I will say this thou Gooba , the selling of aborted fetuses should be outlawed . It's one thing to have a abortion another to then on sell the aborted fetus .

So long as you don't deny a woman the right to chose when is the right time to have kids , then Gooba brings up a important point

Human spare parts for sale .......
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Message 1716833 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 6:32:01 UTC - in response to Message 1716822.  

I will say this thou Gooba , the selling of aborted fetuses should be outlawed . It's one thing to have a abortion another to then on sell the aborted fetus .

So long as you don't deny a woman the right to chose when is the right time to have kids , then Gooba brings up a important point

Human spare parts for sale .......

Yep, see what happens when they sit, waiting ...
http://home.comcast.net/~timeswatch/Newsletter/2005_10_22.pdf
Friday, October 7, 2005 - LOS ANGELES(ANS) -- Yesterday was the 20th anniversary of the sealing of what many regard to be the largest mass grave on American soil.

The story that led to the burial came to light in February of 1982 when workers opened a large shipping container that had been repossessed from the owner of a medical lab in Southern California. It was filled with buckets of the results of thousands of abortions.

http://www.priestsforlife.org/columns/5068-16433-children-in-one-grave
In the early 1980's, a man by the name of Malvin Weisburg was operating an outfit called Medical Analytic Laboratories, and he was receiving from abortion clinics around the country the bodies of aborted babies for pathological analysis. When he was done with his work, the bodies of these babies, many of them decapitated by the abortion, and some of them weighing a couple of pounds, were put in plastic containers and ultimately stored in a large waste container that he was renting. In 1982, Weisburg failed to make proper payments on the container, and therefore it was repossessed by the company.

So to be blunt:
    1) Go to a trash dump
    2) Sit in a container
    3) Get burned
    4) Be used in medicine
    5) Get flushed
    6) Have a Supreme Court fight over you
    7) ?


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Message 1716975 - Posted: 22 Aug 2015, 17:37:52 UTC - in response to Message 1716447.  
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-The Iran nuke deal is bad. ISIS continues to run wild committing atrocities all over the place.

Surely this statement belongs in the "Facts are boring" thread?

Not much more than a decade ago the talk was of Al Qaeda and Iraq, now it's ISIS being linked with Iran. The links between Iraq and Al Qaeda were tenuous at best, and the link between ISIS and Iran is that they are enemies. Iran is one of the leaders in the fight against ISIS.

For now, Iran is the only state-player actively fighting ISIS on the ground and you can talk to a state, no matter how much you find it objectionable. So you overcome the objections.

source

The war in Iraq got the U.S. no closer to ending Al Qaeda (and may have made that task harder), a conflict with Iran will not help overthrow ISIS (and will probably make that task significantly harder).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1717095 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 0:30:18 UTC

To Gary and Clyde

Gary prosecute the managers of said abortion clinc's .

Change laws outlawing this type of thing .

Clyde you do what you do with all Human waste from a hospital you put it in a incinerator and burn it .

A abortion can't be performed after 3 months , why ! a fetus is not considered to be a human at that stage . It has not formed all the parts of a human at that stage an i tend to agree with that .

And it's not wrong as people are cremated all the time . Its what Humans have always done with Human waste (body's) BURNT THEM
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Message 1717099 - Posted: 23 Aug 2015, 0:40:32 UTC - in response to Message 1716447.  

The Iran nuke deal is bad. ISIS continues to run wild committing atrocities all over the place.

Guy you are convoluting the Iran nuke deal with an anti-Iranian among other things, terrorist organization. Those are 2 separate unrelated issues.
What has happened to your intellect in the year or so since you chose to reduce your profile and production on SETI? You used to do better than this.
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