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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
That is a lot, and Friday the 13th is later in the week ........ I've known that for quite a while, there won't be another in 2015 at least, but then I'm not superstitious. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Thanks for the info David, I wondered why the 3 left with 6 Coach cars rather than the 3 it normally has!! |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Thanks for the info David, I wondered why the 3 left with 6 Coach cars rather than the 3 it normally has!! I wish I'd seen it, but I stayed late at work to edit some of my recent pictures. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Today's 6 detoured via UP east from Omaha. AFAIK, 5 went the normal way. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Today's 6 detoured via UP east from Omaha. Indeed, I didn't even see the 6, it was on the Amtrak map way north of usual route. I have been a little "distracted" lately, and while I have seen a few interesting things have not had time to post, and unfortunately things aren't likely to get better soon. I have just had a quick look at what I have saved and I thought I would start with this lesson in rail safety and apparently a growing problem. Yes, taking pictures on working tracks!! I could not believe the female photographer actually "sitting down" on the main line from Union Station. They took lots more moving about on the tracks, only to have to run quickly when an incoming Metra train sounded it's horn, the incoming ones have the loco at the rear so don't make a lot of noise. Total lunacy!! Anyway onto trains :-) This very strange consist came down the wye earlier this week. Some sort of "viewing car", not sure it has enough lights! Followed by a similar coach, all I could see( the light was pretty bad) it was CP. Then this A little "house" on wheels :-) Finally CP 2206 with is a GP20C-ECO, a "new" rebuild. So not sure what that was all about. Now I have mentioned that I only see the IPH Hoosier state when it is brought to Chicago on a Monday. It never usually turns on the wye as it has an F40PH at either end. Well recently that has changed. Last Wednesday, both 4137 and 4144 together, then on Sunday Still together but 4137 facing the other way, they were still like that when they came in on the Cardinal on Monday, again these little things always make me wonder why. Then yesterday while I was busy doing other things I automatically recorded Amtrak 49 (The Lake Shore Limited) passing through Chesterton, I didn't even notice the fact it has 3 locos until it turned on the wye later. So what you may say, well apart from it having a fading "Big Game Train" as number 2, it had my very first P32AC-DM, 704 the "DM" stands for "dual mode" which means as well as being a diesel electric, it also runs on "3rd rail". They are used primarily on trains in and out of NY Penn station which is underground and has long tunnels leading to and from it. They bring the Lake Shore to Albany NY, where it joins up with the consist form Boston, which has diesels on. The P32's then takes the returning Lakeshore back to NY. It looks a bit tatty from both sides. [/quote] Still always nice seeing something different. I assume it has come to Chicago for work of some sort. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Today's 6 detoured via UP east from Omaha. Photography on tracks (by non-train people; railfans generally know better) is getting to be a serious problem and the railroads are aggressively campaigning against it. Cab cars have their own horns, so the distance from the locomotive doesn't matter. Anyway onto trains :-) CP's "tech" train, one of two. It is an electronic track inspection and measurement train. For whatever reason, CP has the contract to run it over all tracks owned by Metra twice per year. I caught one of them a couple of months ago in Blue Island. I'll see if I can find a picture.
Those are actually GP40FH-2s. They were built as standard freight GP40s (probably before the changeover to -2). The conversion to passenger service for NJ Transit included replacement of the long hoods with ones taken from retired BN F45s that were being scrapped. I haven't heard anything, but I suspect they have switched them around so that if Amtrak finds any more "defects", they can easily remove the "bad order" unit and continue on.
Probably going to Beech Grove for something. The model designation, BTW, indicates that the diesel is only 3200 HP instead of the standard 4000 of the P40s that were built at the same time or the 4250 HP of the later P42s. The lower power is due to a smaller prime mover; I'm not sure if that was done to make room for the extra electrical equipment to run on 3rd rail, or to reduce weight for bridges with low axle-loading restrictions. The latter was the reason the New Haven's FL9s (the last F units built) were B-A1A instead of B-B like all other Fs. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Update from Mike: he handed off Sky View to the Texas State RR on Tuesday and drove to Dallas today to turn in his rental car. After making his way to Dallas Union Station, he asked the ticket agent if there was a sleeper available. (IPH would only pay for a coach seat.) Just his luck, there was a last minute cancellation they could give him for $125. You better believe he took it. Then he went to the diner for the free steak dinner. He's really enjoying just sitting back and riding, not having to do anything. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
CP had another derailment today, at about the same place in Watertown where they dumped the oil train over the weekend. Much less messy this time. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Caught this quartet at Chesterton yesterday and thought it made an unusual mix. In the lead was AC44CW CP 8645 As usual for CP very grubby, the number 2 was no better SD40-2 CP 5833 Old and tatty. Next was a bit better CSX 5204 an ES40DC, I have noticed that CSX tend to keep their locos looking better. However the "jewel in the crown" was the last loco, by far the best of the lot LTEX 3815 A recently rebuilt ex-ATSF GP35. Apparently the job was done by CAD Rail in Montreal for Larry's Truck and Electric now a GP38-M and on lease to CN. |
Dr Who Fan Send message Joined: 8 Jan 01 Posts: 3194 Credit: 715,342 RAC: 4 |
Developers want to build a high-speed train that could make the trip from Dallas to Houston in just 90 minutes Developers want to build a high-speed train that could make the trip in 90 minutes. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
As there is a political proposal on California's High Speed Rail project to make water more important, I've opened a thread for that over in politics as per the wish to keep political discussion on this project out of this thread. http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=78487 |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
I think some would say even construction and/or photos of any CHSRA stuff would be regarded as political, but that is My reading of some here, but then some are just anti-rail and I've seen My share and there is a word for that, but I'll be polite and leave the "W" and "C" words out(that doesn't apply to people here at Seti, just elsewhere), though they are outnumbered. And that is all I will say here. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Please no more even slightly political comments. This is for "train fans" view of trains. As Gary pointed out there is now a thread in politics for the discussion of the CHRSA, lets keep it there please. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
France is certainly going through it just now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34822666 It is worth noting that this line is not due to open until next year, and thus th train in question was either in use for crew training, or testing of either the train or the infra-structure. Whatever, another very sad event in a very sad twenty four hours for France. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
Mike spent a few hours yesterday following IPH's other Hoosier State engine around the city. It was getting some work done at a contract shop near Clearing Yard. BRC moved it to NS Calumet Yard, who moved it to Ashland Yard, who moved it to Amtrak. It will deadhead on 850 to Indianapolis for more work (could be on the way right now). Meanwhile, a gaggle of foamers are out chasing an equipment move of 2 WSOR E9s, a mish-mash of cars, and an IC-painted E, from Chicago Terminal's Bensenville industrial park to Middleton, WI via Tower A5 in Chicago. I'd be out there too, but I got home late and slept late. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22160 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 |
The news about the accident in France just got worse - there were children onboard :-( and the death toll has risen to eleven :-( http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34827049 Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
OK a few more for the "collection" Not sure if this applies to all railfans but I have always been interested in numbers, and symmetry, so this was a "good catch" for me. 196, on the incoming City of New Orleans, and 195 on the outgoing 391 bound for Carbondale. Another ACS64 turned up on Saturday. #663 on the wye, the shorter days are already causing problems with the shadows!! I have mentioned that the Hoosier State IPH train recently has both F40PH's on one end. Well yesterday deadheading on the Cardinal 4144 was all alone no sign of either 4137 or the seldom glimpsed 4135. Hopefully they don't have serious problems!! I have been watching Chesterton on and off for nearly a year now, but sometimes it still surprises!! 9 locos in full view, but wait, there's more! Three more for a total of twelve!! NS7546-8045-9615-UP4753-NS8392-8463-9972-UP6315-NS9641-9377-1077-8390 Quite a sight! And finally Railstream is testing a new camera at Bellevue Ohio, the camera is in the grounds of the Mad River & NKP Railroad museum Up close a personal with a shiny NS 5262 an ex-Conrail GP38-2 I like how close the camera is to the track, hopefully get a few good shots!! |
zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65709 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49 |
Sounds like the 12 locos would almost constitute a train in itself, that's quite a few in one train Bernie, out here I don't think I've ever seen more than 5 or 6 locos on a train. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's |
David S Send message Joined: 4 Oct 99 Posts: 18352 Credit: 27,761,924 RAC: 12 |
OK a few more for the "collection" Interesting. I think I also saw those same two near each other recently. Another ACS64 turned up on Saturday. I hear that train set was the one that stopped at Ottumwa last week due to the derailment west of Burlington. 663 was dragged all the way back to Oakland and then east again. I have mentioned that the Hoosier State IPH train recently has both F40PH's on one end. See my post from Sunday. Also, as I mentioned, they're not F40PHs. The nose is different. And yes, they do have serious problems. I have this from multiple sources. As one of them said, "there's a reason why NJ Transit sold them." I have been watching Chesterton on and off for nearly a year now, but sometimes it still surprises!! Probably not all online. And finally Railstream is testing a new camera at Bellevue Ohio, the camera is in the grounds of the Mad River & NKP Railroad museum I went to that museum in July. I spent a couple of hours in the morning waiting for them to open, watching trains roll through that junction. You wouldn't think the line by the museum would be very busy (based on where it goes), but I think I saw more trains on it than any other line to the west. Maybe it was just the time of day I was there. BTW, Mike's latest mission is to escort an E unit from Chicago to Oklahoma City. He has to drive a rental car the whole way. Depending on the timing, he may take the Heartland Flyer down to Ft. Worth and the Eagle home again, or fly. David Sitting on my butt while others boldly go, Waiting for a message from a small furry creature from Alpha Centauri. |
Bernie Vine Send message Joined: 26 May 99 Posts: 9954 Credit: 103,452,613 RAC: 328 |
Also, as I mentioned, they're not F40PHs Somewhere in the back of my addled brain I did know that! They are of course GP40FH-2's As you say the front is different, however looking through my pictures all the F40PH's I seem to have see recently have been pointing the other way. Of course the irony of that statement is I see loads of F40PH's everyday, but have stopped noticing them!! For those who like me can't tell a GP40FH-2 from an F40PH, here are a couple of clues This is an F40PH Of course Metra have a few, they pass the camera so often I don't tend to see them. And this is one of the GP40FH-2's in question Seen together the difference is rather obvious so I apologise for misleading anyone. |
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