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Message 1729243 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 19:38:37 UTC

I see a hirail on the airline too.
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Message 1729255 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 20:05:11 UTC - in response to Message 1729243.  
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I see a hirail on the airline too.

Yep, there are so many of them in all shapes and sizes I don't notice them anymore!!

They seem to be doing a lot of work on the tracks here. Hi-rails and men in yellow hat and vests wandering everywhere.

Which reminds me, I wonder what this does? Came past yesterday and again today.



Seems it might be to do with ballast, but can't be sure.
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Message 1729269 - Posted: 26 Sep 2015, 20:24:30 UTC
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I think it is a ballast tamper. It lifts a section of rails and ties, compacts the ballast underneath, and then repositions the section. Like Ry Cooder said, you gotta tamp 'em up solid, so they won't come down.

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Message 1729599 - Posted: 27 Sep 2015, 18:34:46 UTC

I think it is a ballast tamper. It lifts a section of rails and ties, compacts the ballast underneath, and then repositions the section.


Yes I think you could be right as it, and something I couldn't quite see, were working on the passing track right in the corner of the camera view. If they reappear close I will try and get a few shots.

Here are a few "odd" items that I have seen over the last few days, mostly "Metra"

METX 3 the SW1200 switcher is a common sight on the MH Tower cam, less so is METX 4 the SW1500.

So this was quite an interesting shot.



Appears to be ballast, perhaps for the work going on just out of sight.

Metra do a lot of switching of their F40PH's during the day

However I have only twice seen them 7up.



All 7 had to clear the switch where the guy is standing before then reversing up track 2

Also noticed these appearing on some of the cab cars



So there is obviously still a "car vs train" problem

As I said yesterday there is always some "hi-rail" activity, especially at weekends. This came down the Metra track going forwards, then reversed back up the main.



A bit of good luck is that the AAPRCO convention train the "Spirit of St. Louis" has Amtrak Heritage unit 156 leading with 154 behind. This means it will be tracked on the Heritage Units website, so I should have a better idea if and when it is heading to Chicago!! It has already been spotted today at Valparaiso, Ossian and Muncie Indiana.
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Message 1729833 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 17:19:37 UTC

Oh, what a weekend.

As of Thursday night when the museum crew caller sent out his weekly email to the volunteers' list, there was NOBODY signed up for anything on Saturday. The schedule called for a diesel coach train, an L train, and a streetcar. I called him Saturday morning and he said one person had shown up, but that was it, so I said I would go out even though I wasn't scheduled and wanted to catch up on my sleep. He thanked me.

Since the time I called him was about the time I would normally leave and I hadn't taken a shower yet, I arrived later than normal. I found that the L train had been changed to the North Shore, which was standing in the station. The diesel was on the train and ready. And the 3142 was standing at Depot Street. One other person had also suited up instead of doing restoration or maintenance like he had probably planned to do. That made a total of four of us.

I was quickly drafted to be conductor of the North Shore and went out on a trip. Oh, by the way, there were still cars parked on the main from last Sunday, so we were running back into the station from the east end instead of going down the main to Jefferson Street and in the west end like normal. When we got back, motorman said there was a defect on one of the cars and called over the other guy who suited up, who is an electric car expert. I was sent over to 3142 and they took the North Shore back to the barn and got out the CA&E instead. Then electric guy had to be conductor on the coach train while crew caller was engineer. I want to note here that he put a marker on the platform so he would know exactly where to stop when coming back so they wouldn't hit the long string of cars sitting on track 2.

So I ran 3142 all afternoon, until 5:00 when I was told to tie it down at Depot St. and be conductor on the coach train's last run. No problem with that. Some of the coach passengers wanted one more trip on 3142, so I gave it to them, and crew caller assisted me putting it away. He also closed up the coach train himself.

On Sunday, I was scheduled to conduct the coach train, its last day of the year. I arrived a tad later than normal, but not as late as Saturday. We had a newly qualified streetcar operator on 3142 who was also doing his first day as dispatcher. We also had an engineer, who had already started the engine before I got there. Crew caller wanted us to make a trip at 11:00, and we almost did, actually going at 11:15 after I walked around the train twice to inspect the brake set and release. I also had to attach the tailhose and put up red paddles to denote the end of the train. I left the bearing inspections for after the first trip. First trip was fine, except that one of the paddles fell off near the east end. Also, engineer refused to make the stop at the station, insisting that I do it from the tailhose. I stopped the train its whole length short of the target. Meanwhile, crew caller and electric guy brought out the CA&E train again, and it ran at noon. It was my turn again at 1:00, and the train was so crowded I asked electric guy to be trainman for me. I saw where my paddle was and got off to retrieve it, barely managing to climb on again. One of these times, I'm probably going to blow out my knee doing that. This time I was only two cars short on my stop.

While all this was going on, the head of the Diesel Dept. and a bunch of other people were out cleaning off the graffiti that had appeared overnight on most of the length of one of the bilevel cars, which was still sitting on the west wye from last Sunday. That made it the first thing visitors would see as soon as they entered the parking lot. After several people worked for several hours, scrubbing it with lacquer thinner, it looked very nice again.

Before the 3:00 trip, the Take the Throttle group showed up, and we decided they would take their orientation trip on the 3:00 and then do their actual trip as soon as we got back. Take the Throttle went well, until diesel guy finished with the graffiti and started switching cars around. We had to hold at signal 151 (next signal east of East Switch) for a few minutes, but then we went down the main to Jefferson St. and into track 1. As soon as we cleared East Switch, CA&E left.

Dispatcher had parked 3142 because he couldn't do that and keep track of the other trains at the same time. About this time, he had to move 3142 down to Barn 9 North to make room on the east wye for the switching. As soon as the switch crew got out of the way and CA&E returned so we could get any passengers from it that wanted another ride, we took off for the last trip of the day (mainly because engineer wanted to take his family for a cab ride).

<cue ominous music>

Running out was fine, except for a couple of really obnoxious kids who wouldn't stay seated and one of whom kept yelling "all aboard!" even after I explained that he was doing it at the wrong time, but when I called for the engineer to start back west, he didn't. Eventually, he said there was a sticking brake on the engine and he needed to talk to diesel guy. Since nobody was near the base radio in the depot, nobody could hear us calling. Eventually, I got out my phone and called the museum office. The executive director answered and I quickly told him the problem. After a bit, dispatcher came on the base radio and said engineer should call diesel guy on the phone. He did. Diesel guy said it would be half an hour before he could head out to look at it. My passengers were not pleased with this news. I called the dispatcher back and said the passengers were unhappy. He asked the CA&E if they could run a rescue train, which they agreed to because the switching had blocked them from getting to the barn to put the train away. Passengers (except all aboard kid) settled down when I said 15 minutes. All aboard kid starting saying he was scared. He also kept yelling, hurting my ear a couple of times.

CA&E had to call dispatcher for permission to pass the red absolute signal at East Johnson, and again at Four Mile. They also had to stop and proceed at each permissive red signal all the way down. Then they called me and asked for permission to approach my train, which I granted. Electric guy pulled up to within a foot and I told the passengers they could now walk across, carefully. As soon as they were all across, the train departed. Then they had to wait another five minutes at Johnson Siding for diesel guy and his switch crew, finally on their way out. (A more experienced dispatcher would have held them and brought the passengers in as quickly as possible, but oh well.) About this time, I finished my bottle of water and wished I had asked CA&E crew to bring me another one. I totally forgot that I had a cooler with two bottles of root beer in it.

Engineer came back and explained to me what had happened: when we were sitting in the station, he had applied the hand brake. When it was time to depart, he flipped it to release and cranked it a couple of times, but when we got to the east end, the brakes on that axle were smoking. Trying to get it to release, he actually made it even tighter.

Diesel guy and switch crew (four guys total) finally arrived and climbed off, carrying assorted tools down the length of my train. I was trying to decide whether to get off and walk down there too, again risking blowing my knee or just being unable to get on, when they came walking back again, after about one minute. Someone said diesel guy kicked it and got it to release. I never heard any more detail than that. They called dispatcher for permission to return, and I called for permission to follow them. They went on down to Schmidt Siding to retrieve the freight train left there last Sunday, and they wanted us to put the train back into 2 and the engine away in track 21. Crew caller kindly came out and threw the switches to line us into 2 so I wouldn't have to climb off.

Fairly routine after that. I walked along the train until I found suitable chunks of wood to chock the wheels, and asked for three point protection to go under the train to get them and then to place them. Then I pulled the coupler pin and had him pull away. Asked dispatcher for permission for the engine to shuffle over to 21, which he gave. Crew caller had thrown the 1/2 switch for 1, so engineer just had to pull past it and back down again. I threw the switch into Yard 2, he went by, and I threw it back. (That is one tough switch to throw.) I locked up the train, put the tailhose and paddles away, and left.

Now I am very tired, and have very sore legs and feet.
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Message 1729868 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 19:00:56 UTC

A change of country...
I've just back back from an overseas trip to the Isle of Man Which is not part of the United Kingdom, and is outside the EU). Three different railways, two electric, one steam, and lots of pictures.
Heres a few to start with










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Message 1729873 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 19:05:41 UTC

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Message 1729893 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 20:43:54 UTC
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Random comments:

Interesting door placement.

In the photo of car 22 alongside the road, and in the one of the track with no car, are those (what I would call) spring switches? Whichever-way-the-last-rain-trailed-through switches for which I can't remember the proper term?

That is a very small steam locomotive. Or several of them.
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Message 1729902 - Posted: 28 Sep 2015, 21:03:41 UTC

Yes, they are spring switches, or spring points depending on which side of the Atlantic one is residing.
The very small steam loco Annie is actually "quite new", and is very small. Despite its diminutive size it had one of the loudest and discordant whistles I've ever heard, plus a "normal" whistle and a siren - one can but assume they wanted to hear it coming....
Actually there are four railways - my mistake, I forgot the Groudal Glen where that little steamer operates.
Polar Bear is a battery electric loco, used to do the end of day service on the GGR, so everyone can get home a bit earlier.

The single digit tramcars are on the Snaefell Mountain Railway and rattle their way up the adhesion worked 1/12 gradient from sea level to 2036 feet. the upper section is very often shrouded in mist, so adhesion is "at a premium". Large sections of this line are to be relaid over the next couple of years as it is "in a bit of a state".
The two digit cars are trams operating on the "flat" Manx Electric Railway between Douglas and Ramsey.
The larger steam locos run on the Manx Steam Railway between Port Erin and Douglas, again this is relatively flat. One nice feature of the MSR is the dining train, running in the evening at least once a week a good meal can be enjoyed while chugging quietly along with the sun setting over the Manx hills. Good food, good wine or ale, good scenery and a steam train, what could be better?
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Message 1730486 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 1:00:19 UTC

Tomorrow's train 3 will have four IPH cars on the rear, Colorado Pine, Chebanse, Belleville, and Sky View. Three sleepers and a full dome. My friend Mike is the Pullman Conductor. This is a Pullman (not Uncommon Journeys) trip to the balloon festival in Albuquerque. The cars will return on 4 on Monday.

Since there is no ground power available in ABQ, they will have to run the cars' generators for the entire time they are there.
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Message 1730578 - Posted: 1 Oct 2015, 8:24:18 UTC
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So you don't see an Amtrak F40PH for ages then two come along on the same day. :D

Tuesday I had noted that 406 was spotted on the 29, and sure enough:



Behind 167 and 170 there it was. Of course these day where 406 goes the exhibition train seems to follow.



So that's 3 engines (well 2 and a half) 5 exhibition cars, then the normal 8 for the 29!

Then between the heavy rain that covered the camera for a while this appeared at CHI



Cabbage 90200 being one end of the Pere Marquette with #129 being on the other, still haven't worked out the reason for turning a train that has a cab at both ends!!

Also got a nice shot of 63 on the outgoing 391 passing 59 with the incoming 58, while Metra is busy below!!



Then when 59 reversed into the station it was paced by an incoming Metra that allowed this shot.



Which is much more effective in the video:

https://youtu.be/AJvmAQMSvTk

Now I know I posted about these earlier in the year but I have a bit more info now also a bit on 3313 as well

Yesterday at sunny Chesterton:



Now 3313 was rebuilt a few years ago. Here in the Juniata shops in 2012: (pic from RRpictures)



Looks a bit better now!! :)

And of course pulling the NS Geometry Train consisting of NS 34



Which has quite a history. (from a post at Train orders.com)

The track geometry slug, NS 34, originally started off its life as Norfolk and Western SD35 No. 1530, delivered in 8/65. It was demolished in a wreck at Lynchburg, VA in in 5/76 when it hit a standing ballast train at track speed. It was rebuilt by the N&W Roanoke Shops and outshopped as N&W RP-E6 (Remote Power - EMD 6-axle) road slug No. 9921. This unit and sister 9920 (rebuilt from a wrecked Erie Lackawanna SDP45) were each mated between a pair of SD45 masters. The 9921 was renumbered to N&W 9951 in 5/81.

Following the N&W and Southern Railway merger in 1982, the slug became NS (N&W) 9951. It was retired and placed into storage in 10/89 and then leased to the Wheeling & Lake Erie Railway in 5/90. It was returned from the W&LE in 9/92 and once again retired and placed into storage.

In 7/94, the NS Roanoke Shops began work on the 9951 to convert it for track geometry operations. Work on the unit took place over a period of five years when things were slow in the shops and it was finally released as NS 34 in 7/99. The slug carbody had been rebuilt with taller areas at each end, the fuel tank had been shortened, the traction motors had been removed with track measuring devices added to one truck, and a generator had been installed in the carbody to power the measuring equipment. The unit was painted in NS tuscan red and lettered in dulux gold.


With NS 33 behind.



NS 33
This car has a rich heritage beside being a unique research car. Built by Pullman-Standard in 1950 as UP Coach 5441, 44 seat coach car, it was eventually sold to the Alaskan RR in 1971.Subsequently it was retired 1987 and sold to St Louis Car. NS then purchased in 1994 and had its Roanoke shops rebuld to serve as part of a track research combo. It was placed into service 8/9/99


Also 406 and the exhibition train along with Amtrak 145 left on the 5 yesterday apparently bound for Denver. However a slow moving METX 9 with a single bi-level got in the way!!



Having had to manipulate the video a bit to get that shot I wondered if you could almost believe 406 could move on it's own!!



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Then between the heavy rain that covered the camera for a while this appeared at CHI



Cabbage 90200 being one end of the Pere Marquette with #129 being on the other, still haven't worked out the reason for turning a train that has a cab at both ends!!

Neither have I. 200 was the very first F40PH ever built. Kinda sad to see it s a cabbage, but at least it wasn't scrapped altogether.


Then when 59 reversed into the station it was paced by an incoming Metra that allowed this shot.


At some point, one of them (probably 59) had to stop and wait for the other. Metra uses the lower numbered station tracks to the west and Amtrak uses the higher numbered ones to the east.
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Message 1731150 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 14:32:06 UTC

Nice to see all the PV getting together. Last time I was in Chicago it was in the Coco Grove, dead of winter, and cold as could be. The reason the Georgia 300 gets the nod for Presidential use is that the Ferdinand Magellan is not, and never will be made Amtrak compatible. So it takes waivers to get it hauled. Plus an extra loco.

This was Amtrak 98 leaving Miami last Friday. 3 extra Viewliner baggage cars on their way out from the Hialeah Amtrak shops and ready to go into service.

Next week I get to ride it again to DC. And I'll have my normal roomette. Seems every trip on it either northbound as 98 or southbound as 97 I get the same car and roomette number. Which is fine as I know all the quirks of that roomette. And where to stuff the toilet paper rolls to quiet the rattles. :D[/img]
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Apparently, the seemingly slow rollout of the Viewliner bags is because the train crews and station agents have to be trained on them.

My weekend at the museum has gone from good to bad to better. I am now getting unofficial (but good and helpful, and probably all I need) training on IT 415, which goes out on the mainline. I should read the training document and the sample car talk. Also, this is happening on Saturday, so I can do something else I want on Sunday.
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Message 1731247 - Posted: 2 Oct 2015, 20:34:49 UTC

3 extra Viewliner baggage cars on their way out from the Hialeah Amtrak shops and ready to go into service.


Apparently, the seemingly slow rollout of the Viewliner bags is because the train crews and station agents have to be trained on them.


So that could be why an extra new baggage car has been appearing now and then on the 29

This was Sunday



This was yesterday



Drip feeding them to Chicago.

Also 3 P42's on that one!!
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3 extra Viewliner baggage cars on their way out from the Hialeah Amtrak shops and ready to go into service.


Apparently, the seemingly slow rollout of the Viewliner bags is because the train crews and station agents have to be trained on them.


So that could be why an extra new baggage car has been appearing now and then on the 29

This was Sunday



This was yesterday



Drip feeding them to Chicago.

Also 3 P42's on that one!!

When the Viewliner baggage cars first came out, they arrived in Miami as a herd. At one point numbering around 30 in the yard at one time. Well maybe better put yard and station. They were any place that there was track space. That made things a little tight.

Currently, track 2 is undergoing a rebuild at the station so it has been out of service as was #3. So all arriving and departing trains only have one track to use. Not bad in the morning as 98 and 92 have a wide schedule gap between departures. But in the evening, that is when it is fun time. The schedule call for 91 to arrive at 1758 with 97 arriving at 1839. Actuality of it, one or the other can be sitting in the yard waiting for the track. The crew of 97 is always happy when they beat 91 to the wye at Auburndale. Last month 97 ran on the markers of 91 from north of Jax to the wye. 91 stil had to go to Tampa so even though we were a half hour late, we still beat 91 in. Back in June, 97 and 91 both arrived at the wye at the same time. 91 got the main.

Picture of a cleared track 3. No new baggage cars in sight.


Track 2 with the new rail and ties as of the 25th. On the 17th, all it was the rails.

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Message 1732074 - Posted: 5 Oct 2015, 16:11:54 UTC
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I got this via FB, so here goes nothing:

AMTK #10001 rides the rear of arriving #6 this afternoon as counterpart #5 begins its journey west from Chicago. Six blocks to the east, the Soldier Field loudspeakers are clearly heard as Da Bears somehow miraculously eke out a season's first victory over the Oakland Raiders.


My question is, what does that Box on the end of the car at the top w/the wiper do?
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