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Message 1708934 - Posted: 5 Aug 2015, 18:57:43 UTC

one off my rigs have 50 wu´s to download since 10 hours....but nothing
run...
the other machines work well...
i deinstall boinc and reinstall it...but its the same
other projects run without a problem
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Message 1708936 - Posted: 5 Aug 2015, 19:12:38 UTC - in response to Message 1708934.  
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Is all this related to Matt's post about moving a server from Seti to Boinc? If so, might this present problems for the WOW event next week?
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Message 1709010 - Posted: 5 Aug 2015, 21:36:56 UTC

Try reboot the offending computer. I imagine that will reestablish the internet link for your computer to download your 50 WUs.

To my knowledge, Matt said nothing about moving a server from Seti to Boinc. What they did, as I understand it, was create and install a 64-bit version of Boinc, removing the old 32-bit version.

The bloated "delete" queues have no effect on us crunchers. When Matt gets around to reorganizing the DB, the excess completed WUs will melt away. This problem has to do with the randomness of the insertions in the DB, which is why the DB is reorganized every Tuesday.
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Message 1709013 - Posted: 5 Aug 2015, 21:46:49 UTC - in response to Message 1709010.  

Matt posted it on one of the other message boards, not on this one.

Ageless posted a copy of it on the "boinc down" thread

Here is the link on this message board

http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77863&postid=1708846
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Message 1709051 - Posted: 5 Aug 2015, 23:44:12 UTC

Swibby Bear's face is red. While I scour every post of Matt's (and most other posts), I clearly didn't see Matt's original of this information, and I guess I didn't take note of "Boinc Down" either. My apologies for the misinformation. Since I've been running Seti for many years on a few old, slow machines, I thought I knew more than I did. The Bear is going back into the den. Thank you for updating me. Peace, and may the weather everywhere be pleasant.
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Message 1709084 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 1:23:51 UTC

No worries, Swibby Bear - questions answered help everyone. I (and most everyone else) have had my share of of "D'oh!" moments. Being polite and considerate is a wonderful thing, keep doing it.
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Message 1709099 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 2:29:36 UTC

reboot was one of the first things i do...also deinstall boinc with reg cleaning and install the latest boinc version....but it's the same like before...
the rig order work....became a lot of new work....but no download....all WU's at 0%
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Message 1709138 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 5:01:56 UTC

You say you've got 50 SETI tasks on that computer, but none are running.
A question - are tasks from other projects running on that computer?
If so then it is a case of those other projects have much shorter deadlines than SETI, so will often run before SETI, eventually the SETI tasks will run...
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Message 1709141 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 5:13:45 UTC - in response to Message 1709138.  

yes...after seti not download the wu´s, i download some einstein
units...einstein download runns normal...download of seti units
hang on this machine
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Message 1709173 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 7:32:06 UTC

A couple of ideas...
First, make sure that all your preferences (local, and on the website) are set to allow SETI to run (I doubt you would have got 50 WU if it weren't)
Second, make sure SETI hasn't been suspended at your end (its a button that toggles between "suspend" and "resume"
Third, suspend Einstein, and any other projects you have selected, this should force SETI to run. This should force SETI to run.


One thing to remember is that the use share is a long term average, spread over weeks not minutes so if you have all your projects set at the same level it is quite probable that one will do a lot of processing for a week or two (or even more) before one of your other projects gets a chance to run.
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Message 1709174 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 7:33:04 UTC - in response to Message 1709141.  

download of seti units hang on this machine

I had to reboot one of my systems due to stuck downloads yesterday. Today all I and to do was exit & restart BOINC for them to download.
One of the download servers is disabled & for some reason that computer wouldn't switch to the other server no matter how many times I hit Retry- it would just time out (almost) straight away & go in to project backoff land.
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Message 1709175 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 7:34:42 UTC - in response to Message 1709174.  
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To add to the disabled download server, Results Awaiting Deletion continue to climb to new heights.
And the Seti@home database continues to receive an absolute hammering. Not only is it under 3 times it's usual load, but the peaks are reaching new levels as well. Now hitting 8.5k queries/s.
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Message 1709176 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 8:10:55 UTC - in response to Message 1709173.  

A couple of ideas...
First, make sure that all your preferences (local, and on the website) are set to allow SETI to run (I doubt you would have got 50 WU if it weren't)
Second, make sure SETI hasn't been suspended at your end (its a button that toggles between "suspend" and "resume"
Third, suspend Einstein, and any other projects you have selected, this should force SETI to run. This should force SETI to run.

If I'm reading the reports correctly, there's no problem with the work being assigned, and there's no problem running the work after it arrives. But the problem is the step in the middle - literally downloading the data files needed to run.

That is most probably a DNS problem - either a manual configuration so long ago that the user has forgotten about it, or an over-enthusiastic DNS cache, meaning that BOINC becomes fixated on the disabled server (vader), and doesn't switch to the working alternative (georgem) as it should.

My DNS cache says

C:\Windows\system32>ipconfig /displaydns

Windows IP Configuration

    boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
    ----------------------------------------
    Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live  . . . . : 230
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.13

    Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
    Record Type . . . . . : 1
    Time To Live  . . . . : 230
    Data Length . . . . . : 4
    Section . . . . . . . : Answer
    A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.21

Georgem (working) is 208.68.240.21: Vader (not working) is 208.68.240.13

If BOINC's <http_debug> log flag shows repeated attempts to access 208.68.240.13, or any attempt at all to access any IP address apart from those two, you should investigate the reason why.
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Message 1709248 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 14:35:01 UTC

my dns cache

boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
----------------------------------------
Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
Record Type . . . . . : 1
Time To Live . . . . : 543039
Data Length . . . . . : 4
Section . . . . . . . : Answer
A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.18

Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
Record Type . . . . . : 1
Time To Live . . . . : 543039
Data Length . . . . . : 4
Section . . . . . . . : Answer
A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.13


how can i change that
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Message 1709251 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 14:42:34 UTC - in response to Message 1709248.  

(...)
how can i change that

Shouldn't a simple ipconfig /flushdns do the trick?
Eventually followed by ipconfig /registerdns
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Message 1709258 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 15:06:32 UTC
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to change 208.68.240.18 to 208.68.240.21 open
C:/Windows/system32/drivers/etc/hosts with editor...
download running normal now
thanks for help
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Message 1709261 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 15:09:30 UTC - in response to Message 1709248.  

my dns cache

boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
----------------------------------------
Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
Record Type . . . . . : 1
Time To Live . . . . : 543039
Data Length . . . . . : 4
Section . . . . . . . : Answer
A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.18

Record Name . . . . . : boinc2.ssl.berkeley.edu
Record Type . . . . . : 1
Time To Live . . . . : 543039
Data Length . . . . . : 4
Section . . . . . . . : Answer
A (Host) Record . . . : 208.68.240.13


how can i change that

With an ancient IP address (208.68.240.18 went out of use several years ago), and Time To Live somewhat greater than SETI's servers set it at (maximum five minutes), my guess is that you (or some previous owner of the machine) have set custom values in

C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

Remove them, or comment them out with a # sign at the beginning of the line.
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Message 1709264 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 15:18:37 UTC - in response to Message 1709261.  

i change it...thanks
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Message 1709384 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 18:08:09 UTC

OK, who has stolen all the tapes - last time I looked, a couple of hours ago, there was a decent pile of tapes waiting to be split, now there are NONE :-(
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Message 1709388 - Posted: 6 Aug 2015, 18:11:47 UTC - in response to Message 1709384.  

The SSP shows most aps are not running, is this an unplanned event and cause for panic?
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