Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems?

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems?
Message board moderation

To post messages, you must log in.

Previous · 1 . . . 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 . . . 26 · Next

AuthorMessage
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Jun 99
Posts: 15184
Credit: 4,362,181
RAC: 3
Netherlands
Message 1707357 - Posted: 1 Aug 2015, 15:56:59 UTC - in response to Message 1707355.  

You have to pick a better password Jord! :).

Going to lengths to show Cruncher Pete I truly do not have database write options. :-D
Although this looks like a server needs a kick. What is it with the BOINC database servers that fall over all of a sudden?
ID: 1707357 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1707380 - Posted: 1 Aug 2015, 16:52:01 UTC - in response to Message 1707357.  

What is it with the BOINC database servers that fall over all of a sudden?

I think somebody's trying to prove that you can't do infrastructure without money. I haven't worked out who yet, though.
ID: 1707380 · Report as offensive
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Jun 99
Posts: 15184
Credit: 4,362,181
RAC: 3
Netherlands
Message 1707400 - Posted: 1 Aug 2015, 18:21:08 UTC - in response to Message 1707380.  

The BOINC User Wiki has the most spectacular message, I now see.

This is a cached copy of the requested page, and may not be up to date.

Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.

Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.

(Can't contact the database server: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (2) (localhost))
You can try searching via Google in the meantime.
Note that their indexes of our content may be out of date.

ID: 1707400 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13732
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1707441 - Posted: 1 Aug 2015, 22:01:06 UTC - in response to Message 1707400.  
Last modified: 1 Aug 2015, 22:03:08 UTC

Looks like there might be an issue with Validation & Assimilation of MB.
In the graphs the numbers are growing steadily with no signs of tapering off; and just had a look at my tasks (took a while for that page to eventually come up) & both the Validation Pending & Valid numbers are much higher than usual.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1707441 · Report as offensive
Profile Donald L. Johnson
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 5 Aug 02
Posts: 8240
Credit: 14,654,533
RAC: 20
United States
Message 1707608 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 6:38:30 UTC - in response to Message 1707441.  
Last modified: 2 Aug 2015, 6:40:03 UTC

Looks like there might be an issue with Validation & Assimilation of MB.
In the graphs the numbers are growing steadily with no signs of tapering off; and just had a look at my tasks (took a while for that page to eventually come up) & both the Validation Pending & Valid numbers are much higher than usual.

My Pendings have been running 2-3 times Valid for about 3 weeks now. I'm guessing about 2/3 of those are going to "Time-Out" and be reissued.

What I noticed today is that I have Tasks that Validated on 29 and 30 July that are still on my Tasks page - should have been purged already. Or is it just because the Replica database is shown as "Offline"?
Donald
Infernal Optimist / Submariner, retired
ID: 1707608 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13732
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1707618 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 7:36:56 UTC - in response to Message 1707608.  

Not all MB WUs are being Validated, so they can't be Assimilated. Both backlogs continue to grow.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1707618 · Report as offensive
Grant (SSSF)
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 19 Aug 99
Posts: 13732
Credit: 208,696,464
RAC: 304
Australia
Message 1707883 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 22:37:55 UTC - in response to Message 1707618.  

MB Results Awaiting Validation have exceeded the number In Progress, and continues to grow. Since they're not being validated, the number of WU Awaiting Assimilation continues to grow.
Add to that, for that last 12 hours the Results Awaiting Deletion has started to climb, rapidly.
For the last 8 hours the number of AP results Awaiting Deletion has been growing, rapidly.
Add to that, for over 18 hours the Master Database Queries per Second has been 3 times the usual level. Usually it's around 1,000/s with a spike here or there for 15-20min. Lately it's been around 3,000/s with spikes over 5,000.


I think everything is about to fall over again.
Grant
Darwin NT
ID: 1707883 · Report as offensive
OTS
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 6 Jan 08
Posts: 369
Credit: 20,533,537
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1707898 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 23:30:47 UTC - in response to Message 1707216.  

What's the award for the lucky user who gets task number 2^32 - 1?


I asked a few days ago, but nobody cared. Now we are ~2 million tasks away from task 4294967295 and no plans yet.

I was under the understanding that when the project was down and started back up again on Wednesday morning this was to apply a fix to this issue

That is correct. That's what this week's quirks and general weirdness has been all about.. making the shift from 32-bit to 64-bit on key processes and variables.

But the questions is still the same as when I brought this subject up last week: I wonder who is going to get 2^32 - 1 or 2^32? I don't think any kind of recognition or reward is warranted, but it could at least be bragging rights or something. Unfortunately, the way things go, I have a strong feeling it's going to go to someone who never comes to the forums, or someone who trashes WUs, or one of those machines that gets a pile of tasks on the first and only-ever contact, and is never heard from again.


It looks like we have the winners now - Wiggo for 4294967295 and Adam Czarnecki for 42949672956.
ID: 1707898 · Report as offensive
Profile Zombu2
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 24 Feb 01
Posts: 1615
Credit: 49,315,423
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1707908 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 23:55:35 UTC

woop woop
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
ID: 1707908 · Report as offensive
woohoo
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 30 Oct 13
Posts: 972
Credit: 165,671,404
RAC: 5
United States
Message 1707909 - Posted: 2 Aug 2015, 23:58:41 UTC

I wanna see Wiggo's toaster
ID: 1707909 · Report as offensive
Profile Zombu2
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 24 Feb 01
Posts: 1615
Credit: 49,315,423
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1707912 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 0:02:26 UTC

The other guy just got lucky haha 7k rac
I came down with a bad case of i don't give a crap
ID: 1707912 · Report as offensive
Profile Jeff Buck Crowdfunding Project Donor*Special Project $75 donorSpecial Project $250 donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 11 Feb 00
Posts: 1441
Credit: 148,764,870
RAC: 0
United States
Message 1707913 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 0:03:15 UTC

ID: 1707913 · Report as offensive
Cosmic_Ocean
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 23 Dec 00
Posts: 3027
Credit: 13,516,867
RAC: 13
United States
Message 1707917 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 0:11:54 UTC
Last modified: 3 Aug 2015, 0:13:21 UTC

Well then. I don't mind being wrong about my prediction this time. At least it was somebody that participates on the forum frequently. He shall have bragging rights forever about being 2^32 - 1.


Also, good job, Richard, for predicting two weeks ago that it would be right around the end of the month. Okay, so it was very early on the 2nd, but that's pretty close.
Linux laptop:
record uptime: 1511d 20h 19m (ended due to the power brick giving-up)
ID: 1707917 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1707998 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 7:39:05 UTC - in response to Message 1707917.  

Well then. I don't mind being wrong about my prediction this time. At least it was somebody that participates on the forum frequently. He shall have bragging rights forever about being 2^32 - 1.


Also, good job, Richard, for predicting two weeks ago that it would be right around the end of the month. Okay, so it was very early on the 2nd, but that's pretty close.

I think I hexed my own prediction by triggering all that code updating last week - we probably lost a couple of days of splitting. Without that, Murphy would have had his usual fun, with everything coming to a crashing halt just as they locked up the lab on Friday evening.
ID: 1707998 · Report as offensive
woohoo
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 30 Oct 13
Posts: 972
Credit: 165,671,404
RAC: 5
United States
Message 1707999 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 7:42:16 UTC

When will we hit 64?
ID: 1707999 · Report as offensive
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Jun 99
Posts: 15184
Credit: 4,362,181
RAC: 3
Netherlands
Message 1708003 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 7:56:33 UTC - in response to Message 1707999.  

2^64-1 = 18446744073709551615
If by that time we haven't found any signal by ETs, I doubt there are any out there, or they're not transmitting in the bandwidth we're searching in.
ID: 1708003 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1708004 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 8:01:31 UTC - in response to Message 1708003.  

2^64-1 = 18446744073709551615
If by that time we haven't found any signal by ETs, I doubt there are any out there, or they're not transmitting in the bandwidth we're searching in.

Matt made it "a million results a day for 6.3 billion years". But he forgot to factor in Moore's Law - we're already closer to two million results a day.
ID: 1708004 · Report as offensive
Speedy
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 26 Jun 04
Posts: 1643
Credit: 12,921,799
RAC: 89
New Zealand
Message 1708005 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 8:18:59 UTC

As I speak which to gets turned into text the results returned per hour is 64,009. I'm guessing there is a shortie storm at present?
ID: 1708005 · Report as offensive
Profile Jord
Volunteer tester
Avatar

Send message
Joined: 9 Jun 99
Posts: 15184
Credit: 4,362,181
RAC: 3
Netherlands
Message 1708007 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 8:27:32 UTC - in response to Message 1708004.  

Still wonder how he gets to that number, for 18446744073709551616 / 365 / 1000000 = 50539024859, or 50.5 billion.

6300000000 * 365 * 1000000 = 2,299,500,000,000, which isn't anywhere near 2^64.
2^41 = 2,199,023,255,552, the nearest integer I can find.

Unless... I don't know what a billion is anymore. American billions not a thousand million, or 1,000,000,000? ;-)
ID: 1708007 · Report as offensive
Richard Haselgrove Project Donor
Volunteer tester

Send message
Joined: 4 Jul 99
Posts: 14650
Credit: 200,643,578
RAC: 874
United Kingdom
Message 1708018 - Posted: 3 Aug 2015, 9:51:46 UTC - in response to Message 1708007.  

Matt (message 1169564) was basing his estimate on "our id space will max out at 2305843009213693952", which turns out to be 2^61. That's a factor of 8 down on your 50.5 billion years, which is near enough 6.3 billion years.

Maybe he thinks that we'll have a new form of maths which requires three separate sign bits by then?
ID: 1708018 · Report as offensive
Previous · 1 . . . 7 · 8 · 9 · 10 · 11 · 12 · 13 . . . 26 · Next

Message boards : Number crunching : Panic Mode On (99) Server Problems?


 
©2024 University of California
 
SETI@home and Astropulse are funded by grants from the National Science Foundation, NASA, and donations from SETI@home volunteers. AstroPulse is funded in part by the NSF through grant AST-0307956.