In sheer disgust I propose , that on t shirts bumper stickers and in the write in section of ballots, "vote none of the above".
I think if none of the above should win that new candidates should be required
in a vary short new election.
any body have ideas or comments?

I have always felt and advocated that N.O.T.A. be on the ballot, not just a write in choice, and that votes for N.O.T.A. be actually tabulated and published with all other votes.
Far too many politicians think they have some sort of "mandate" from some unrealistic percentage of the population to push through their unworkable, bad legislation and ideas.
If N.O.T.A. were an actual choice the politicians would be able to quickly see exactly what percentage of the voters support them and their ideas.

And yes, there would have to be some sort of run-off or re-vote to elect the representative, but at least all would be able to understand just how terrible their ideas and suitability for office really are.
I already have a t-shirt that has a check-box checked for N.O.T.A.

So nobody in here was (is) concerned about the US crashing financially?

$20T in (on the books) debt is no big deal?

Why are you worried about that? With Trump's rapid acceleration of Global Warming no humans are going to be alive by the time the debt matures and has to be paid. So if there is no one to pay it to, does it matter if it defaults? You should be dazzled by his brilliance!

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The economic policies of Milton Freedman and Alan Greenspan worked very well, FYI they weren't Keynesian. Two major accomplishments of their policies are greater wealth in this country, of course it is concentrated with less than 5% of the population. Then we got the recession of 2008.

So nobody in here was (is) concerned about the US crashing financially?

Frankly yes I am concerned, I predict it in the next 4 years brought on mostly by external forces and will be exacerbated reactionary fiscal policies.

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Not to mention he even admitted what we all would've known anyway:

He ain't payin' it back! :)

In sheer disgust I propose , that on t shirts bumper stickers and in the write in section of ballots, "vote none of the above".
I think if none of the above should win that new candidates should be required
in a vary short new election.
any body have ideas or comments?

I have always felt and advocated that N.O.T.A. be on the ballot, not just a write in choice, and that votes for N.O.T.A. be actually tabulated and published with all other votes.
Far too many politicians think they have some sort of "mandate" from some unrealistic percentage of the population to push through their unworkable, bad legislation and ideas.
If N.O.T.A. were an actual choice the politicians would be able to quickly see exactly what percentage of the voters support them and their ideas.

And yes, there would have to be some sort of run-off or re-vote to elect the representative, but at least all would be able to understand just how terrible their ideas and suitability for office really are.
I already have a t-shirt that has a check-box checked for N.O.T.A.

Yes NOTA. I'd like to see elections require 50%+1 of the registered voters to elect as well. Force some center politics and not fringe elements.

As to NOTA, if your vote total is less than NOTA your name isn't appearing on any ballot for any office again. You career as a politician has come to an end. Find another line of work.

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Frankly yes I am concerned, I predict it in the next 4 years brought on mostly by external forces and will be exacerbated reactionary fiscal policies.

We never finished our SS conversation.

I've got 2.8 Trillion that says INTERNAL forces will also be at play.

Interested?

Moscow had contacts with Trump team during campaign, Russian diplomat says

Good job, America. Good job.

Watch Curtis' "HyperNormalization" if you haven't already. You'll love it.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6156350/

Hardy, har, har!

I wonder in 4yrs what opinions will be like when Trump supporters realise that nothing has changed, the U.S. is even further in dept and more people are out of work.

Anyhow, enjoy those huge cracks that are now part of your country as I can see them getting much bigger before any healing will start (keep your guns clean and with plenty of ammo as you may need them yet).

Clyde you're so keen to defend the "American Way & Culture" at certain times yet you back step at others, very inconsistent of you, but nothing unusual (it is called the land of the free isn't it?).

Cheers.

Hardy, har, har!

I wonder in 4yrs what opinions will be like when Trump supporters realise that nothing has changed, the U.S. is even further in dept and more people are out of work.

Anyhow, enjoy those huge cracks that are now part of your country as I can see them getting much bigger before any healing will start (keep your guns clean and with plenty of ammo as you may need them yet).

Clyde you're so keen to defend the "American Way & Culture" at certain times yet you back step at others, very inconsistent of you, but nothing unusual (it is called the land of the free isn't it?).

Cheers.

Nothing major ever changes in Washington D.C. because the bureaucrats really run the country. We always elect the same self serving politicians to congress and the president is just someone we either give credit to or blame for what happens allowing the bureaucrats to keep their jobs.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

I just don't understand why so many rural areas voted in such high numbers for Trump. These are often places where income is low, and the need for subsidized healthcare is high, along with other good social services that Republicans in power generally want to cut.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

I just don't understand why so many rural areas voted in such high numbers for Trump. These are often places where income is low, and the need for subsidized healthcare is high, along with other good social services that Republicans in power generally want to cut.

The Big Man, the Farmer, is the one who lives there. He is registered. His workers aren't registered because they move from place to place as the different crops come in. The Republicans disenfranchised them with all their restrictive voting laws, they stole the election.

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N.O.T.A. PARTY maybe some reality can be forced back into the elections.
have to come up with a simple platform.

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Maybe folks in the more rural areas *don't want* subsidized healthcare or other social services handed to them from the government?

Would those folks wish to give up Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and Defense completely?

Steve

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Would those folks wish to give up Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and Defense completely?

Steve

I'll give up my favorite government program if you'll give up yours.
Then we can create a more fair tax system to pay for just what we really need.
With more money in our pockets I bet more people would be able to fund more chartities and save more and even be more able to help themselves.
Sound Good?

Would those folks wish to give up Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and Defense completely?

Steve

I'll give up my favorite government program if you'll give up yours.
Then we can create a more fair tax system to pay for just what we really need.
With more money in our pockets I bet more people would be able to fund more chartities and save more and even be more able to help themselves.
Sound Good?

What is it that we really need?

Steve

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Warning, addicted to SETI crunching!
Crunching as a member of GPU Users Group.
GPUUG Website

Return of Manufacturing Jobs. Good paying jobs for the Working Class. Return of Upward Mobility.

Will not happen.
Manufacturing Jobs are also now mostly automated even in the countries where the jobs are outsourced to.

Return of Upward Mobility

That's not going to happen the oligarchs won't allow it.

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