A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump

I have no idea how true this is. There is so much false information flying on both sides now that I don't believe anything posted by anyone at the moment. It's like America has gone nuts.

I'll post it anyway and you can make up your own minds.

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I have read many comments like this.
"- We need a change. Things are about to derail this country. And of course, he may not be the right person for the job - but we must in any case try something new."
Well, for one thing.
Bringing jobs back home wont happen in decades.
Not in the North America or Europe.

I have read many comments like this.
"- We need a change. Things are about to derail this country. And of course, he may not be the right person for the job - but we must in any case try something new."
Well, for one thing.
Bringing jobs back home wont happen in decades.
Not in the US or Europe.

Funny you should mention that bit about jobs in the USA and in Europe...

Economic recovery from the 2008 economic crash has been more robust (...not perfect, mind you, but relatively more robust...) than in most European countries. Why, you ask? Well, President Obama opened a national purse and spent from it, while several countries in the European Union instead tried the policy of "fiscal austerity" (or imposed fiscal austerity upon others).

Does this mean that I care not one whit about our National Debt? Absolutely not!!! Our National Debt embarrasses and troubles me deeply, but there are times when heavy government spending is warranted. Economic recession/depression is one of those times.

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I didn't ask.
The fact is that so many companies are outsourcing to "cheaper" countries whenever they can.
Many countries tries to regulate that by adjusting the corporation taxes.
Yes. The US has a very high tax. Trump said 35% yesterday in North Carolina.
Well, Sweden has 20% tax and Ireland 12%.
Do we get jobs back?
Of course not. We are still loosing jobs.

I have read many comments like this.
"- We need a change. Things are about to derail this country. And of course, he may not be the right person for the job - but we must in any case try something new."
Well, for one thing.
Bringing jobs back home wont happen in decades.
Not in the US or Europe.

Funny you should mention that bit about jobs in the USA and in Europe...

Economic recovery from the 2008 economic crash has been more robust (...not perfect, mind you, but relatively more robust...) than in most European countries. Why, you ask? Well, President Obama opened a national purse and spent from it, while several countries in the European Union instead tried the policy of "fiscal austerity" (or imposed fiscal austerity upon others).

I know. It seems from day one the republicans were doing everything they could to block any Obama policy so as to make him fail in an attempt to make shrub's failure look as if it wasn't a republican policy failure. Not only would they not pass anything they would not even let it be voted upon as it might have forced some of their members to break ranks.

Does this mean that I care not one whit about our National Debt? Absolutely not!!! Our National Debt embarrasses and troubles me deeply, but there are times when heavy government spending is warranted. Economic recession/depression is one of those times.

Yes, and we also need strong policy that in good times pays it down and if possible saves for a rainy day. However it is very hard for some sectors of the political spectrum to engage in self denial when the plate is fat so there can be a plate when times are lean. They tend to see more and more problems that a few $$ could fix and very soon the debt goes up even in fat times.

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However it is very hard for some sectors of the political spectrum to engage in self denial when the plate is fat so there can be a plate when times are lean. They tend to see more and more problems that a few $$ could fix and very soon the debt goes up even in fat times.

Greed is a powerful motivating force that crosses political lines and all sorts of other divides. Taxes, properly applied, can help to mitigate the worst effects of greed.

I am proud to be a "tax and spend" liberal, but I am also a "tax and save" liberal. You no doubt noticed that the national debt has hardly been mentioned this election cycle. That is one of the TRUE crimes of this election cycle!

I think that taxes are a good way to redistribute wealth, even if I do not always like the way my government spends my tax dollars.

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I could not disagree more.
Your tax dollars are being spent to grow Government and bloat bureaucracies.
The size and cost of the government has doubled each 8 years.
The taxes you are so eager to pay are not getting back to you in any form.
And they are certainly not growing the economy or "redistributing the wealth" to anybody that you would call in need.
For every tax dollar going out of a state 11 cents come back. There are alot of hands in the pot once it leaves your, (my) hands.

You no doubt noticed that the national debt has hardly been mentioned this election cycle. That is one of the TRUE crimes of this election cycle!

Strange. I have heard it mentioned many times.
And I'm only an outsider:)
I guess an increasing national debt in countries is because of too low taxation today.
Unless the country need to lend money to warfare or help in disasters.
And of course the effect to please voters by politicians that say:
"Let's make our country great again".

Oh My GOoD GOD. RayGun @ '66 SanFran PG&E Candidates Forum. What A MASTERWORK. Wat A Brain. Makes Madame Yoga Sound Like Da PEA BRAIN She Is. Dat Man Was INCREDIBLE. LONG LIVE RayGun's Legacies.

BIG BIG BIG Don fO Prez. Da Heart and Mind of A TRUE LEADER.

Oh Yeah: F**K Progressives/DEM/Libs/COMMIES/Socialists/Bleeding Hearts

Meister Yap

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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!

I could not disagree more.
Your tax dollars are being spent to grow Government and bloat bureaucracies.
The size and cost of the government has doubled each 8 years.

The cost has, I don't think the size has. The government has not hired that many new workers. If it had the unemployment rate would be negative.

The taxes you are so eager to pay are not getting back to you in any form.
And they are certainly not growing the economy or "redistributing the wealth" to anybody that you would call in need.

So true. Perhaps to prevent increasing the wealth disparity we need to limit the pay of a government worker to a maximum of 5 times the poverty rate. No union bargaining could get a dime more.

For every tax dollar going out of a state 11 cents come back. There are alot of hands in the pot once it leaves your, (my) hands.

That does vary by state. Some states are drained, some states are filled. Pork barrel at its worst.

The only government program I ever heard of that paid for itself was NASA. That when its budget was essentially unlimited. They knew their objective and had a time deadline. Lots of unknowns to get past with pure research. Ten forks in the road, you didn't know which was right, so you took all ten at once. Lots of that research paid unexpected dividends and still is paying dividends. You are using one right now, the microprocessor.

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I'll same about Hilary supporters.

Clyde cite examples or retract your unfounded assertion.

betreger and Wiggo... What Universe are you living in?
After only a Few Minutes searching what was already reported here:
Violent crowd attacks, insults homeless woman guarding Trump’s Hollywood star (VIDEOS)
https://www.rt.com/usa/364631-crowd-attacks-homeless-trump/
Some protesters even threw water bottles and water at the Trump supporters as they walked along a sidewalk leading to the Albuquerque Convention Center.
Dereck Scott of Albuquerque was among those who were hit with a plastic bottle.
Scott, who is in a wheelchair, said the attack was unprovoked and unnecessary. He says he has a right to vote for the candidate he prefers.
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/report-trump-supporter-wheelchair-hit-plastic-bottles-protesters/
Agitators pelt female Trump supporter with eggs, tomatoes in San Jose
http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-agitators-pelt-female-trump-supporter-eggs-bottles/
Kid Chased, Tackled at Trump Rally Had Been Beaten Before He Tried to Run From Mob
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/06/witness-white-kid-chased-tackled-trump-rally-beaten-tried-run-mob/
Trump Supporters Attacked
https://twitter.com/reneejon/status/766851862876135424
Hmmmmm. Hillary Supporters attack a Person in a Wheelchair, a Homeless Women, a kid, etc.

Gee, Clyde, you actually spent a few minutes to actually google something that should've only taken seconds? :-O

Myself there are 2 links there that I wouldn't have posted, but then again I do my homework on link sources. ;-)

But yes, there is so much more on Trumpies.

And please don't bring up the so called party office attacks as there's no proof on either and politicians have been known to do dirty work on their own property to cast blame else where.

I also wouldn't be surprised if Trump supporters staged those links to do the same thing.

And your point actually was Clyde?

Cheers.

I could not disagree more.
Your tax dollars are being spent to grow Government and bloat bureaucracies.
The size and cost of the government has doubled each 8 years.
The taxes you are so eager to pay are not getting back to you in any form.

There are streets I can walk down, there's a public transport system I can use, there are schools my friends can send their children to, etc, etc, etc.

While you could argue about degree, though "not ... in any form" is patently untrue.

And they are certainly not growing the economy or "redistributing the wealth" to anybody that you would call in need.
For every tax dollar going out of a state 11 cents come back. There are alot of hands in the pot once it leaves your, (my) hands.

Perhaps you could provide the data to support this claim, the following suggests that it may not be true:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Interesting link, and quite enlightening that in general the red states are the biggest takers of federal dollars.

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I could not disagree more.
Your tax dollars are being spent to grow Government and bloat bureaucracies.
The size and cost of the government has doubled each 8 years.
The taxes you are so eager to pay are not getting back to you in any form.

There are streets I can walk down, there's a public transport system I can use, there are schools my friends can send their children to, etc, etc, etc.

While you could argue about degree, though "not ... in any form" is patently untrue.

I made the mistake of thinking we were talking about Federal taxes.. and yes I should not have made such an absolute claim.
I should have instead focused on the reason I thought that the "wealth" is not being redistributed as is assumed.

And they are certainly not growing the economy or "redistributing the wealth" to anybody that you would call in need.
For every tax dollar going out of a state 11 cents come back. There are alot of hands in the pot once it leaves your, (my) hands.

Perhaps you could provide the data to support this claim, the following suggests that it may not be true:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/05/which-states-are-givers-and-which-are-takers/361668/[/quote]

That number is a generalization of average Federal Tax money that is returned to each state after being forfitted.
No, I can't provide proof.

Further:
Spending is not so easily located geographically. The breakdown of federal spending is done in the following ways: defense (military), non-defense discretionary, Social Security, Medicare, grants, and various other programs. Defense spending is the most volatile, as it is usually found to be higher in states with established defense contractors and other defense facilities. Areas of higher social insurance spending are typically seen in areas of larger elderly population. Social security is the dominant expenditure of per dollar federal expenditures.

Other factors of spending are largely political in the sense that politicians who can effectively argue for more spending get the most spending for their states. Some trends of spending as of 1999 are as follows: defense spending in the South and the national capital, non-defense discretionary spending between the Midwest and the Rockies, most Medicare and Social Security is located in the East and Central/Midwest, and other assistance programs following the Appalachian Mountains from Louisiana/Mississippi to Maine

Interesting link, and quite enlightening that in general the red states are the biggest takers of federal dollars.

We do have a 'unique' system.

Excepting in a Presidential Election. There is no true National Republican nor Democrat Party. Just 50 separate Party's, with different Electorate. Usually just voting upon their unique Local and State issues.

A State Party may be very comfortable, in their beliefs. To their Opponent Party in another State.

Talking about what some state do and what is happening in other states, there is a piece in the Washington Post about the West Coast and their plans to increase taxes on the rich, increase basic wage etc.

Big government is the new West Coast craze

Along the way, all three [West Coast]*states have charted tax-and-spend courses that offend conservatives. The states’ current Democratic governors all earned F grades from the conservative Cato Institute on its annual Fiscal Policy Report Card this fall.

The Cato rankings prize what conservative economists have long preached for state budgets: cutting taxes and reducing spending. That mix, combined with light government regulation, has been the conservative formula for attracting businesses and investment and growing state economies.

It’s the calculation that drove Republican governors in Kansas and Louisiana to slash tax rates in recent years — and to pare back government services when higher growth did not materialize and holes opened in the state budget. And it is a backlash to that calculation, in part, that is driving the West Coast movement.

* added by me

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Talking about what some state do and what is happening in other states, there is a piece in the Washington Post about the West Coast and their plans to increase taxes on the rich, increase basic wage etc.

The Wealthy, Businesses and Jobs. Will just move another State or Nation.

Just 1 + 1 = 2

I disagree.

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Talking about what some state do and what is happening in other states, there is a piece in the Washington Post about the West Coast and their plans to increase taxes on the rich, increase basic wage etc.

The Wealthy, Businesses and Jobs. Will just move another State or Nation.

Just 1 + 1 = 2

I disagree.

I guess you understand another Country better.

BTW: American Businesses move themselves, and their Jobs to other, less taxing, less costly, and less regulation States, all the time.

Sometimes to other, even less taxing, less costly, and less regulation Countries.

Just 2 + 2 = 4

It seems someone forgot to tell the businesses to use that math ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/11/05/big-government-is-the-new-west-coast-craze/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_wb-biggov-345am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

“The West Coast is becoming more, not just the laboratory, but the breeding place for progressive beliefs,” said Bill Whalen, a research fellow at Stanford University’s conservative Hoover Institution think tank. “It’s hard to argue against it when you’re in rather flush economic times.”

Oregon and California’s economies grew faster than any other states’ in 2015, and Washington wasn’t far behind. Innovation and superstar cities are powering that growth, in tech hubs such as Seattle, Portland and the San Franciso Bay Area, and the entertainment capital of Los Angeles, all of which are magnets for talented young workers.

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BTW: American Businesses move themselves, and their Jobs to other, less taxing, less costly, and less regulation States, all the time.

Case in point, MAGPUL a will known military, police and civilian manufacturer of accessories for firearms, most notably the ubiquitous 30 round AR 15 magazine used by armed forces the world over.

Started in Longmont Colorado and for many years employed 600 people at very good wages. 2012-13 the Democratic controlled Colorado Legislature banned the possession of magazines capable of holding more than 15 rounds(without a vote of the people I might add), which was an arbitrary number pulled from someones nether regions.

Magpul, which has an extensive line of other products, pulled it's entire operations from Colorado and moved 'up the road' to more friendly environs in Wyoming. The small city of Longmont lost 600 jobs overnight, the manufacturing tax revenue from a multi-million dollar company as well as losing local business income from those 600 employees.

Two State Senators were recalled by petition drives and one resigned to avoid certain removal over that one measure. And a local economy was disrupted by an infringement on the 2nd Amendment by one State.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Oh, think how much the economy would improve if they sold claymore mines to the general public.

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BTW: American Businesses move themselves, and their Jobs to other, less taxing, less costly, and less regulation States, all the time.

Case in point, MAGPUL a will known military, police and civilian manufacturer of accessories for firearms, most notably the ubiquitous 30 round AR 15 magazine used by armed forces the world over.

Started in Longmont Colorado and for many years employed 600 people at very good wages. 2012-13 the Democratic controlled Colorado Legislature banned the possession of magazines capable of holding more than 15 rounds(without a vote of the people I might add), which was an arbitrary number pulled from someones nether regions.

Magpul, which has an extensive line of other products, pulled it's entire operations from Colorado and moved 'up the road' to more friendly environs in Wyoming. The small city of Longmont lost 600 jobs overnight, the manufacturing tax revenue from a multi-million dollar company as well as losing local business income from those 600 employees.

Two State Senators were recalled by petition drives and one resigned to avoid certain removal over that one measure. And a local economy was disrupted by an infringement on the 2nd Amendment by one State.

If they don't care about your economy, guess what else they don't care about?

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