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Message 1823857 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 0:42:02 UTC - in response to Message 1823854.  

I am telling you as a woman that you do not get to tell women whether their reality is valid or not.

and I am telling you as a man that you do not get to tell men whether their reality is valid or not.

As you can see that goes both ways. So where does that leave us?

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.
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Message 1823864 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 1:08:55 UTC

FORGET About BIG BIG BIG Handed Don's ALLEGED(Ladies Lying) Inappropriate Behavior. IT IS GOING NOWHERE. Below is Da BOMBSHELL.

Along with Wiki LEAKS emails

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Message 1823866 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 1:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1823855.  

Gary used the term "consenting adults" earlier. Good point,

Think it was a quote, but it is something I would point out.

Wait, no, one was even worse: a pedophile.

Yes, something about a pageant owner of a miss teen pageant walking into a dressing room full of nude underage women because he is the owner*. Seems the pageant owner said he did it. Seems former contestants say he did it. Pedophile! Is there a statute of limitations on that?

*owner of them?


I was referring to Dennis Hastert.
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Message 1823867 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 1:33:18 UTC - in response to Message 1823857.  

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.

You are the one having problems go for it then. Your forum.

I got over my experiences and have not let them poison my view of the world and people.
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Message 1823871 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 1:48:19 UTC - in response to Message 1823861.  

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What I am hearing 'on the ground' from women is this: That Trump's remarks as most men and women (yes the women do admit to Disgusting Sexual Remarks). Are disgusting. Now move on.

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That's weird, because what I am hearing 'on the ground' from both men and women is that Trump's remarks describe illegal behaviour and are disgusting.

Es99...

What behavior? AKA: Victims in the released tape.

Popular Obama (see below) and Hillary's husband, who will (hopefully) live in The White House. Are more than verbally disgusting.

Repeat of a previous Post -

President Obama showing off his erection to giggling female reporters. 2008 video by CNN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGJIB5cO0cQ

Legal behavior?

Please don't ever tell me that I don't know what sexual assault is. From you flippant comments I can only assume it has never happened to you.

There is a chasm of difference between what Obama is shown doing and what Trump claimed he has done.

I am telling you what it is. I am telling you as a woman that you do not get to tell women whether their reality is valid or not.

Es99...

Then... As a Man, you also do not get to tell men whether their reality is valid or not.

But... I did miss your posts. If just to confirm what I have been saying.

Again, what has your reality got to do with being sexually assaulted? What is it about having to sit back and listen to woman and accept that she knows more about this reality than you do that you find so difficult?

Until men start to listen to women, things are not going to get better. How about we start trying it here?

What Trump has claimed he has done is not 'locker room talk'. It's assault.

I am telling you this as a fact that should not in any way be debated. By insisting that it is not assault, you are doing what has been done to women far too many times. You are perpetuating rape culture. You are so used to your opinion having more weight than mine because of your gender that you simply cannot bring yourself to stand down.

That this is even up for debate says it all.

Women tell you that we do not want to be grabbed and groped without permission and you have the nerve to disagree. You don't get to tell us what we want or don't want. Do you understand?
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Message 1823872 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 1:50:38 UTC - in response to Message 1823867.  

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.

You are the one having problems go for it then. Your forum.

I got over my experiences and have not let them poison my view of the world and people.

I suspect that is because you are blissfully unaware of what women go through.

Trump is an admitted sexual predator. It's not a matter of interpretation.
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Message 1823874 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 2:00:33 UTC - in response to Message 1823872.  

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.

You are the one having problems go for it then. Your forum.

I got over my experiences and have not let them poison my view of the world and people.

I suspect that is because you are blissfully unaware of what women go through.

Now you are telling me I am blissfully unaware of what sexual assault is because I am a man.

You sound like the priest did when I challenged him.
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Message 1823900 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 5:24:25 UTC - in response to Message 1823874.  

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.

You are the one having problems go for it then. Your forum.

I got over my experiences and have not let them poison my view of the world and people.

I suspect that is because you are blissfully unaware of what women go through.

Now you are telling me I am blissfully unaware of what sexual assault is because I am a man.

You sound like the priest did when I challenged him.

Really, you're going to claim equivalence of experience, yet provide nothing to support it and while doing so assert that Es is telling you something about your world when she said she suspects? Nice.

BTW statistically there is no equivalence.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1823906 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 5:59:32 UTC - in response to Message 1823900.  

What is your experience? Why don't we make a discussion about an entitled male assaulting women all about YOUR experience as a male. Obviously your perspective will throw real light on the situation.

You are the one having problems go for it then. Your forum.

I got over my experiences and have not let them poison my view of the world and people.

I suspect that is because you are blissfully unaware of what women go through.

Now you are telling me I am blissfully unaware of what sexual assault is because I am a man.

You sound like the priest did when I challenged him.

Really, you're going to claim equivalence of experience, yet provide nothing to support it and while doing so assert that Es is telling you something about your world when she said she suspects? Nice.

BTW statistically there is no equivalence.

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Message 1823941 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 11:28:40 UTC - in response to Message 1823923.  

Australia must be proud of the important legislative work done by the Upper House of the NSW parliament.
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Message 1823956 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 13:09:53 UTC

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

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Message 1823962 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 13:32:39 UTC

ALL hands are dirty(as is usually the case in Politics), and "We The People" are the losers on the REAL ISSUES(again, usually the case). The electorate is too (lazy? uncaring? self-absorbed? brainwashed?)to DEMAND better representation.

My hand wringing is over, let the fecal mass hit the fan, I shall be hunkered down clinging to my 'Bible, God and Guns'.

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Message 1823964 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 13:37:26 UTC - in response to Message 1823956.  

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

Right, this kind of thing is unprecedented, isn't it?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1823972 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 15:32:53 UTC - in response to Message 1823964.  

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

Right, this kind of thing is unprecedented, isn't it?

Why alligations against famous wealthy individuals must be somehow different.
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Message 1823975 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 15:39:41 UTC

Why alligations against famous wealthy individuals must be somehow different.


Is an Alligation related to an Alligator??

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Message 1823980 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 15:52:50 UTC - in response to Message 1823950.  

The full results from Sunday night’s debate are in, and Donald Trump has come from behind to take the lead over Hillary Clinton.

The latest Rasmussen Reports White House Watch national telephone and online survey

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch_oct13

No WinterKnight... The Liberal LA Times Daily Poll, is not the only one.

BTW: I did expect a Big Jump in Hillary's numbers, after the last 'Debate'.

My concerns are increasing.

Now you use your second favourite Poll, I'll refer you back to http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77605&postid=1815156#1815156
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Message 1823985 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 16:10:00 UTC - in response to Message 1823975.  

Why alligations against famous wealthy individuals must be somehow different.


Is an Alligation related to an Alligator??

If we are going to use sea life, octopus would be a better animal for comparison.
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Message 1823988 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 16:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 1823956.  

Interesting that these charges of unsolicited touching, kissing, groping, etc., etc., come YEARS after the alleged offense instead of being filed against the 'perpetrator' at the time they occurred.

Me thinks something smells of fish in the sun on the fourth of July.....

The excuse of 'years after...' cannot be used as Trump himself said of his Bill Clinton allegations, by saying accusers should be believed and that decades-old misdeeds matter.
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Message 1823992 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 16:52:36 UTC - in response to Message 1823803.  

Trump danger to world, says UN official.

Trump is a danger to every thinking person on the Planet.
His followers don't care, they just don't want to admit that they're stupid, and wrong.

Seems unlikely that all Drumpf's supporters are stupid, and I don't recall seeing anything that says they are disproportionately stupid compared to the rest of the US population (or vice versa).As for being "wrong", well, if they believe the falsehoods that stream from Donald, then yes, they are likely to be wrong about a number of issues.

May be semantics, but I did say followers, as in acolytes.
I suspect that many Trump supporters are of the "Never Hillary" kind.
Still not a testament to their intelligence.
I suspect that many of Trump's supporters are addicted to gambling, and come too late to save his Atlantic City Ventures.
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Message 1823997 - Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 17:16:44 UTC - in response to Message 1823991.  

Let us all forget the decades old allegations, and victims who became public.

Since Trump claims to only tell the truth and the video has been made public how can anyone dispute the claims.
the allegation of Hillary threatening a Rape Victim.

That one does not have video to verify.
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