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Message 1815084 - Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 23:29:51 UTC - in response to Message 1815078.  

Repeating: Fraudlairly, and her supporters, are living in a Dream World.

The only association i make with the word "Fraudlairly" is that pushed by
an ex-cop in New York who once had a security detail for djt.
Talk about Simpletons.
Go visit your relatives in Argentina, and drink some wine.

Cherchez la femme.
Cops knows a lot of criminal behaviour.
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Message 1815085 - Posted: 4 Sep 2016, 23:44:13 UTC - in response to Message 1815084.  

Cherchez la femme.
Cops knows a lot of criminal behaviour.

Not even remotely close to being on topic.
If you have anything to say please make it less obtuse.
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Message 1815093 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 0:19:09 UTC - in response to Message 1815085.  

Cherchez la femme.
Cops knows a lot of criminal behaviour.

Not even remotely close to being on topic.
If you have anything to say please make it less obtuse.

Sigh...
Now you are trolling!
Please behave!
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Message 1815094 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 0:29:47 UTC - in response to Message 1814765.  

Again, apologies for being chronically out-of-sync (thought I wanted to drop by and rant somewhere a little bit about the TPP... however this next point is equally important and will do nicely for today)

Plus as I have said before, with the economic model used by the US and most other OECD countries relies on there being an increase in population every year, to pay the benefits. Because of the birth rate decrease in western society immigrants are an essential element part of population increase.

The problem lies not with the illegal immigrants but the out of date policies most governments run. Much has been said about the 300,000 immigrants from the Middle East that have been allowed into Germany, but figures show that Germany probably needs 500,000 immigrants/year just to maintain the status quo for its economy. Which if you hadn't noticed is about the strongest in the EU.


Actually no. That's not the problem. It's a "solution" and a poor one at that.

Say you've got a busted fuel-line and you're pouring in extra gas [petrol] to make up the difference. If the engine stalls I guess you could say the "problem" is you're not pouring in enough gas [petrol] to make up said difference but of course the REAL problem is... you've got a busted fuel-line.

Subconsciously, the real problem here has already been identified. It lies in the first paragraph:

Plus as I have said before, with the economic model used by the US and most other OECD countries relies on there being an increase in population every year, to pay the benefits.


The REAL problem here is that "everybody" in the Western World (except maybe Norway for example, but I'm not sure TBH) calls this an "economic model" when we've got a muuuuuch better label for bird-brain ideas like this one:

It's a textbook "pyramid scheme".

And those are illegal.

For good reason.

;)
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Message 1815095 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 0:33:58 UTC - in response to Message 1815093.  

Cherchez la femme.
Cops knows a lot of criminal behaviour.

Not even remotely close to being on topic.
If you have anything to say please make it less obtuse.

Sigh...
Now you are trolling!
Please behave!

How so?
Please elucidate.
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Message 1815097 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 0:36:22 UTC

Please let's try to keep it to analyzing the arguments for or against Trump.
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Message 1815099 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 0:49:19 UTC - in response to Message 1815084.  

[Cherchez la femme.
Cops knows a lot of criminal behaviour.

I'm not sure why you would bring gender into a political debate, but do have my suspicions.
Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.
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Message 1815101 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 1:17:00 UTC

Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.

Please elucidate to me what djt is. :)
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Message 1815102 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 1:39:57 UTC - in response to Message 1815101.  
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Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.

Please elucidate to me what djt is. :)

djt is a misogynistic blowhard who pretends to know $hit, who barely knows
the meaning of the words that describe his psychological condition.
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Message 1815106 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 2:03:01 UTC - in response to Message 1815102.  

Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.

Please elucidate to me what djt is. :)

djt is a misogynistic blowhard who pretends to know $hit, who barely knows
the meaning of the words that describe his psychological condition.

I don't get it.
First you are saying that I am a supporter of djt.
Now it's because of my psychological condition.
Well. Tell Trump that.
He has all psychological conditions to not be voted the next President of the US.
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Message 1815107 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 2:19:18 UTC - in response to Message 1815106.  

i will say this Jann.
Anyone can use Google.
Much of your "Renaissance Man" Spiel really is just "Google Search".
It's sad that you rely on it as much as you do.
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Message 1815108 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 2:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 1815107.  

i will say this Jann.
Anyone can use Google.
Much of your "Renaissance Man" Spiel really is just "Google Search".
It's sad that you rely on it as much as you do.

Google search?
But i can read the same news as you do.
Without Google search!
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Message 1815109 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 2:36:54 UTC

Please, again, let's keep the discussion about Trump, and not get into personal bickering.
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Message 1815112 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 4:22:15 UTC

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-37269719

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/04/world/asia/obama-xi-staff-shouting-match.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=2

I think that if Americans would like to see how
the rest of the world will react to a Trump presidency
one only need observe how the Chinese are now treating
the leader you have at present in their nation's capital. In the
end your political problems are doing the important work
of destabilizing your nation's economy, and it's prestige
to the rest of the world for the benefit of your enemies.



edit:
Perhaps you have more important work to do than fighting with each other....
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Message 1815115 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 4:27:27 UTC - in response to Message 1815101.  

Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.

Please elucidate to me what djt is. :)

D=Donald
J=John
T=Trump
for a person whose first language isn't English and doesn't use abbreviations or acronyms.

Back on topic please
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Message 1815124 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 5:03:16 UTC

269 to 191
http://elections.ap.org/content/how-ap-rates-presidential-race-and-road-270-2

Still, Clinton's advantage is a strong one. If she holds Trump off in Wisconsin and defends her remaining leads, a victory in any of the several states now considered toss-ups would be enough for a November victory.

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Message 1815138 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 6:39:04 UTC - in response to Message 1815115.  

Good to know that you, Jann, are a supporter of djt.

Please elucidate to me what djt is. :)

D=Donald
J=John
T=Trump
for a person whose first language isn't English and doesn't use abbreviations or acronyms.

Back on topic please

I kinda like this acronym:)
TRUMP, Too Rich to Understand the Majority of People.
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Message 1815156 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 11:37:29 UTC - in response to Message 1815153.  

Donald Trump (Republican)39.2%
Hillary Clinton (Democrat)39.0%
Other 8.3%
Refused 8.2%

http://polling.reuters.com/#!poll/TM651Y15_DS_13/filters/LIKELY:1/type/smallest/dates/20160710-20160830/collapsed/true/spotlight/1

Trump: 44.7%
Clinton: 42.7%

http://www.latimes.com/politics/

President Trump?

Probably

Not.
The LA Times like Rasmussen has a Trump bias, probably about 3% or 4%.
The Fox News Poll which you might think would have a Trump bias said
Clinton - 41%, Trump - 39% in its W/end poll

You need to go read 538 - 13 Tips For Reading General Election Polls Like A Pro before quoting polls and making public statements on them.
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Message 1815167 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 12:51:42 UTC - in response to Message 1815153.  

President Trump?
Probably

Most likely my gut feeling says...
“What am I supposed to do if I don’t like him and I don’t trust her?” a millennial black woman in Ohio asked. “Choose between being stabbed and being shot? No way!”
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Message 1815169 - Posted: 5 Sep 2016, 13:03:30 UTC - in response to Message 1815157.  

I have to say I cannot agree with your idea's that the 'established pollsters' are a problem.
Because to do an unbiased random poll takes quite a bit of money, and research says they also need to be human to human questioning. So automated questioning which is usually only done on landline, which will be biased as a lot of the younger parts of the population tend not to have landlines, or the internet where you just cannot trust the answers. Therefore non-established pollsters who will use automated questioning cannot be trusted, not because they are intrinsically dishonest, but because there methods are poor.

You really do need to read that link from 538 and then you will see those establishment pollsters like the USC Dornsife/LA Times do have a built in bias and you need to read as many polls as possible and follow how the trends are moving.

Or leave it to sites like http://fivethirtyeight.com/ who are not pollsters, they are statisticians who are studying the polls, and have a very good record, and admit their mistakes when they get it wrong http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-i-acted-like-a-pundit-and-screwed-up-on-donald-trump/.

In 2008 Ned Silver was very close with his prediction in 2012 he was absolutely spot on, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Silver#2012_U.S._elections
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