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Message 1813105 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 0:54:00 UTC - in response to Message 1813095.  


Who protects International Commerce, and enforces Western International Law, when the policeman goes home?

Clyde it is becoming every country for it's self. Remember "The shores of Tripoli"?
The early United States had to prove it could take care of it's self. This is a very dystopian view of the near future.
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Message 1813109 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 1:29:44 UTC - in response to Message 1813037.  

Umm socialism kills can you explain why the right in Australia is called LIBERAL Party if Liberals have ruined everything as you say .

And guess what they have stuffed everything they touch Liberals are Right wing fascists and yes they do want to control everything and suppress the people .

Labour is left wing and have saved this country from going down the toilet .

I think you need to go and get help for the Brain washing you have been exposed to and `don't go to the Church pastor for help . They too Brain wash people I only have to look at the southern states of your country to see there influence .

There are more than 2 sides of the politics not just Right wing or Left wing some party's are closer to the middle or common cents area of politics and don't want total control but you keep thinking the reds are under your bed if that makes you feel safe . Better you not vote until you get that brain washing thing sorted mate .
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Message 1813110 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 1:49:15 UTC - in response to Message 1813109.  

Umm socialism kills can you explain why the right in Australia is called LIBERAL Party if Liberals have ruined everything as you say .

And guess what they have stuffed everything they touch Liberals are Right wing fascists and yes they do want to control everything and suppress the people .

Labour is left wing and have saved this country from going down the toilet .

I think you need to go and get help for the Brain washing you have been exposed to and `don't go to the Church pastor for help . They too Brain wash people I only have to look at the southern states of your country to see there influence .

There are more than 2 sides of the politics not just Right wing or Left wing some party's are closer to the middle or common cents area of politics and don't want total control but you keep thinking the reds are under your bed if that makes you feel safe . Better you not vote until you get that brain washing thing sorted mate .



Who? This guy?

https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1813115 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 2:04:35 UTC

Major quoting Reagan sounds silly to me, he did more to dismantle the middle class than anyone else in my short lifetime.
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Message 1813117 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 2:16:19 UTC - in response to Message 1813110.  

I'll bite kong

Martin Luther king . He was around at the same time the Reds where under the beds .

And who is it that brings the type of laws he was fighting to repeal mmmm

Wouldn't be the Rich white American Republican types would it ?????

And you show how the Republicans have used B/S to keep there control buy misinterpreting what King stood for. AKA: Brain Washing

eg: The liberal here have gone on about Labour bringing in the white Australia policy back in the 30's but forget how they where in power for over 25 years and did nothing to change or repeal it .

But once Labour finally won in 1970's one of the first things they did was dump the white Australia policy and give the first Australians Land rights .

So why didn't the Liberals do it when they where in power they had 25+ years to do it ????
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Message 1813143 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 6:41:36 UTC - in response to Message 1813117.  

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Martin Luther king . He was around at the same time the Reds where under the beds .

And who is it that brings the type of laws he was fighting to repeal mmmm

Wouldn't be the Rich white American Republican types would it ?????

No, it was the Rich white American DixieCrats, or Southern Democrats of his time period.

Glenn, you may have missed where the KKK switched from the Democrats to the Republicans. They own no allegiance to either and will go anyplace that will allow them to spew their vile hate filled white supremacist claptrap.

This switch came after Dr. King, when the powers in the Democratic party decided enough was enough and kicked them out. For a couple of decades they really had no place that would take them. However the Republicans became very weak and finally allowed them in for all the $$$$$ they donated. A deal with the devil. And it continues to weaken the republicans. Soon there will be contests in states, such as for U.S. Senator, where they will be no republican qualified to appear on the ballot. Oh wait, that's already happened! http://www.cbsnews.com/news/california-senate-race-sets-up-first-ever-democrat-on-democrat-battle/
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Message 1813202 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 15:49:57 UTC

The Drumpf Map?

Purple states understand what Drumpf would do.
The Green states have a number of people who get it.
The Blue states have no clue.

From a quick look, with two exceptions - golf course in Los Angeles and a hotel in Las Vegas, every one of the Drumpf businesses is in a green or blue state!

I let what the map actually is sit for a while but lets see if anyone gets it.
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Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump came out swinging in Tuesday’s presidential debate, starting the night by telling the audience that he could not, in good conscience, advocate raising the minimum wage.

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Message 1813217 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 16:47:32 UTC - in response to Message 1813212.  

Guy, so far Seattle is doing just fine with regards to jobs and employment. Their Achilles heel is transportation gridlock.
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Message 1813223 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 17:32:03 UTC - in response to Message 1813212.  
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Purple/Green understand/get what? Please enumerate.

Maybe the Blue states understand/get it.

I think you have it backwards. Let me enumerate what the Blue states understand/get.

That since it's not an enumerated power of the federal government that raising the minimum wage on a national level is unconstitutional?

Good luck with that argument, it's one that SCOTUS has already rejected, unanimously, in 1941. Back then SCOTUS found that as Congress has power to regulate interstate commerce, and that it also has “authority to resort to all means for the exercise of a granted power which are appropriate and plainly adapted to the permitted end”, it that meant the federal minimum wage was lawful.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1813229 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 17:59:18 UTC

Guy, your table is misleading and it has mislead you.

As to federal thoughts are you a sovereign citizen?

I think bobby knows what the map depicts.

Inflation is what artificially drives up the price of goods and services. Inflation is caused by tax rates being too low. So if you don't like prices going up, raise taxes. Oh, if you pay more, don't taxes go up?
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Message 1813247 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 19:01:20 UTC - in response to Message 1813217.  

Guy, so far Seattle is doing just fine with regards to jobs and employment. Their Achilles heel is transportation gridlock.

Boeing left Seattle because of the gridlock to name one. What use to be a 25 minute drive is now pushing two hours. Seattle will spend $11,000US painting crosswalks rainbow colors but lets the infrastructure crumble.

Outside of King County and for the rest of the State life is not so sweet. Wife is not able to get accounting work except for trick & loan tax outfits. There are more closed store fronts down here than in the last 50 years.

It depends where you live in Washington State. I'm a Pierce County (south of Seattle/King County) resident for over 50 years. I was a utility worker for over 40 years and I have seen first hand the slow crumbling of my area.

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Message 1813264 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 21:35:16 UTC - in response to Message 1813249.  

Guy the businesses that are moving to Seattle don't care about the minimum wage. They are high tech and pay very well. The minimum wage only affects the support people who serve them.
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Message 1813270 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 21:55:11 UTC - in response to Message 1813249.  

Gary, how has that table mislead me? And, no I'm not a member of that extremist group. I don't know why you (and others) keep trying to place me in that group (and other similar groups.)

Because you espouse views that are so similar on many subjects as to make people think their views on other things are your views.

And, you're confusing raising the tax rate and paying more in taxes--these are not the same thing in this context.

No confusion here, perhaps you have some. Raise revenue is raise revenue, method does not matter to the bottom line. Money is fungible. And the context is inflation.

And as for your blue/green/purple picture of the states, all you're doing for me is pointing out another weak argument about racism in the U.S. and it's insulting to people like me.

Do tell where you see race in that map or its data? Bonus if you can get ES to agree it is there!

All you're pointing out to me is that some states encourage laziness in the food services industry.

Obvious you have no clue about working in that industry, the only industry left in America after Drumpf has outsourced all the manufacturing jobs. Oh here is a tip for you don't look into the pool, that is where you find lazy.

Are you going to "tip" others on what you're trying to say with that picture?

That Mr. Drumpf likes to build his properties in states that share something in common. Also that he has commented upon that common factor in his candidacy.
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Message 1813288 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 23:35:41 UTC - in response to Message 1813286.  

I, like many others, started off in the food service industry.


I was a bartender for a short time, not a
great one, but a bartender just the same!



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Message 1813292 - Posted: 28 Aug 2016, 23:50:47 UTC - in response to Message 1813286.  

Trump is a business man. He's not exactly what I want to see in the white house, but at least he's not another absolutely corrupt politician

Guy you are correct he is not a corrupt politician, he is a corrupt business man with a long history of not honoring the contracts he has signed.
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Message 1813310 - Posted: 29 Aug 2016, 1:03:58 UTC - in response to Message 1813292.  

Trump is a business man. He's not exactly what I want to see in the white house, but at least he's not another absolutely corrupt politician

Guy you are correct he is not a corrupt politician, he is a corrupt business man with a long history of not honoring the contracts he has signed.

Yes, and he opens his businesses where he can pay his workers $2.13/hr and get away with it. And he says it isn't going up! It is how he made his billions, stealing form the American worker. It is his vision of making America Great Again! Wage Theft!

So you know the employee can end up paying the employers share of FICA taxes on tips. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc761.html When that happens the employee gets no take home pay. Zero!

That's what the map shows. Where the minimum wage is $2.13/hr. https://www.dol.gov/whd/state/tipped.htm
@Guy, just because someone used a government product to illustrate some theory does not make the government product tainted.

I can just see how much in food stamps, school lunches, section 8 and other programs go into such places because it is impossible for a single mom to provide for her family at $2.13/hr while she pays the employers share of her FICA tax. Where is the dad? Maybe he got a DWP.

Oh, and that $2.13/hr is set by those super liberal congress people in Washington DC. You know the ones who had control of both chambers and the white house a couple years back. Yep $2.13/hr! They want people on welfare or they would raise the minimum to where a job would let you pay for your own food and shelter.

For those republicans out there, a worker who can pay for his own stuff is a happy more productive worker, who will add to your bottom line compared to a worker on the dole who will be depressed. But there are a lot of people out there who will spite their own nose for short term gain.
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