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Message 1807766 - Posted: 7 Aug 2016, 13:54:19 UTC
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To add to my previous a new poll by WP-ABC news shows Clinton lead of 8 points, and you can see there trend for the last year, basically Trump hasn't moved much and Clinton has gone up 4 points.


edit]Don't beat your head against the wall, we're never going to win against Trump supporters. Why facts don’t matter to Trump’s supporters
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Message 1807797 - Posted: 7 Aug 2016, 16:07:45 UTC

Is there any need for other reasons why Trump should not be President when there are reports like this, Top Nazi leader: Trump will be a ‘real opportunity’ for white nationalists
The effort to plant the seeds of white nationalism in the political mainstream, where they might blossom into pro-white political coalitions that appeal to a broader swath of Caucasian voters, will not be easy, according to the chairman of the American Nazi Party.

But Rocky Suhayda thinks there is one political figure who presents a “real opportunity” to lessen the load.

Who is it? Donald Trump, the Republican nominee for president.

“Now, if Trump does win, okay, it’s going to be a real opportunity for people like white nationalists, acting intelligently to build upon that, and to go and start — you know how you have the black political caucus and what not in Congress and everything — to start building on something like that,” Suhayda declared on his radio program last month.

“It doesn’t have to be anti-, like the movement’s been for decades, so much as it has to be pro-white,” he added. “You know what I’m saying? It’s kinda hard to go and call us bigots if we don’t go around and act like a bigot. That’s what the movement should contemplate. Alright.”
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Message 1807961 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 16:07:58 UTC

No person has asked the big question yet:
Does your hate for any politician allow you
to put in a citizen who may bring down your
nation? When do politicks trump your love for
your country? When do politicks trump your
duty to your nation? I don't think enough people
are asking what you can "Do for your country!"
down there. I know it is easy to sit on your hands
and yell, now get up and vote for your nation, not
yourself for once.

I am unable to teach the unworthy,
the uninspired, or the unwilling!

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Message 1807980 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 18:18:17 UTC

I just listened to The Donald speak for an hour in Detroit. He wants to cut taxes for the wealthy and we all would prosper from trickle down economics. For further prosperity getting rid of most regulations will be a boon for the country. After all rivers that catch on fire means factories won't have costly expenses. He envisions himself as a reincarnated Reagan who did have Alzheimer's He had so much to say.
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Message 1807989 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 18:52:41 UTC - in response to Message 1807980.  

I just listened to The Donald speak for an hour in Detroit. He wants to cut taxes for the wealthy and we all would prosper from trickle down economics. For further prosperity getting rid of most regulations will be a boon for the country. After all rivers that catch on fire means factories won't have costly expenses. He envisions himself as a reincarnated Reagan who did have Alzheimer's He had so much to say.


Flood up corporate socialism economics.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1807995 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 19:12:09 UTC - in response to Message 1807961.  

No person has asked the big question yet:
Does your hate for any politician allow you
to put in a citizen who may bring down your
nation? When do politicks trump your love for
your country? When do politicks trump your
duty to your nation?
I don't think enough people
are asking what you can "Do for your country!"
down there. I know it is easy to sit on your hands
and yell, now get up and vote for your nation, not
yourself for once.

I am unable to teach the unworthy,
the uninspired, or the unwilling!


Celttooth,


That is the big question.

Love of country... Duty to nation...

Vs. 'Politics'.

As you are no doubt aware, 'Politics' in the USA is greatly factional.

There are two major factions (Republicans and Democrats) and a number of minor ones (including, but not limited to, Libertarians and Greens).

Each faction is convinced (rightly or wrongly) that their 'platform' is best for the nation. They support it BECAUSE of 'Love of Country' and 'Duty to the Nation'.

Political Factions (parties) exist BECAUSE of these two concepts, not in spite of them.

I have not supported any of the past 3 former Presidents (Bush the Elder, Clinton, and Bush the Younger -- even though I am related to one of them and the other two are family friends) nor do I support the current one (Obama) BECAUSE of my 'Love of the USA' and my 'Duty to the USA'. I have the opinion that their policies were and are BAD for the USA, and I cast my vote accordingly.

I also support neither Trump (R) nor Clinton (D) this go around. In my opinion BOTH will be rather destructive to the USA should they be elected. It is a gut feeling about Trump as well as hearing his speeches, but my opposition to Clinton at least has some level of supporting evidence. I think that both will be rather... destructive to the nation.

I will almost certainly vote Johnson (L) unless something rather drastic happens over the next few months.
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

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Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1808004 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 20:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 1807995.  

Well stated, thank you for that.


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Message 1808016 - Posted: 8 Aug 2016, 20:43:51 UTC

CharpCloneSaid:
After all rivers that catch on fire means factories won't have costly expenses.


I Watched and LIstened to DJT today Speaking In MotorCity and Know Business is Not Going Back to Bad Old Days, as Stated Above by A Man Lost In A Silent Spring.

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Message 1808130 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 12:57:18 UTC - in response to Message 1808017.  
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- Zero income tax for poorest, number of bands axed, top rate cut to 33pc


Well--Ronald Reagan said that no man should have to pay more than 30% of his earnings to the government. I think that he was right. How would YOU like to pay in 30% of your earnings and then another big hit for Socialist Security and Medicare.

Also keep in mind that those in the top bracket tend to have capital gains which were fed by funds that were already taxed at the income tax rates.
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Message 1808133 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 18:57:46 UTC - in response to Message 1808130.  

- Zero income tax for poorest, number of bands axed, top rate cut to 33pc


Well--Ronald Reagan said that no man should have to pay more than 30% of his earnings to the government. I think that he was right. How would YOU like to pay in 30% of your earnings and then another big hit for Socialist Security and Medicare.

Also keep in mind that those in the top bracket tend to have capital gains which were fed by funds that were already taxed at the income tax rates.

Heh, the top earners get a significant amount of their remuneration in the form of incentive stock options, and capital gains (not income tax) can be paid on how much value they accumulate over the option price. Just one of the ways the top 1%ers can arrange to pay a smaller slice of their pay as income tax ...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1808142 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 20:03:27 UTC - in response to Message 1808017.  

- Would make all childcare expenses tax-deductible for parents

Doesn't help the low income or single parent as they usually have no tax liablity

- Wants to put the Keystone XL pipeline project back on the table

Why does the US need to import expensive oil, thought it had been announced that the US is back in the oil and gas export business.
- All business tax rates would plummet to 15 per cent to encourage growth

No proposals on where this business growth is supposed to happen

- Proposes moratorium on economic regulations in Washington

- Would allow overseas assets to come back to the U.S. at reduced tax rate

Why would they unless he propose 0%, have you looked to see what they pay offshore.
- Ends the estate tax, which seizes as much as 40 per cent of assets at death

Tell me, do you know the value an estate has to be before this tax is applied?

- Zero income tax for poorest, number of bands axed, top rate cut to 33pc

These tax cuts are less than he promised earlier, so presumably the promise to remove the tax liability for 75 million households has been cancelled. And the proposal on investment income is actually a gift to all those Wall St brokers.

The above is a major problem to defeat Trump.

Totally wrong, if you knew anything about economics you would realise it was a gift to the opposition, and proves he is no friend of the working person.

There was nothing in that reading of the teleprompter, to say how he is going to make America Great again, if anything it was accepting that the US has lost the trade war and he doesn't know how to do anything to rectify the situation.

And on that note you didn't mention his plans to tear up the trade agreements and impose import taxes, estimates say if those happen it would cost the average household up to $10,000/year.
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Message 1808196 - Posted: 9 Aug 2016, 23:39:37 UTC

Just sitt'n here, listening to all the babbling brooks and smiling.........":D

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Message 1808219 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 1:47:17 UTC - in response to Message 1808201.  

Over Regulation

Clyde cite examples and why. If you can't or don't that is just hot air.
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Message 1808228 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 3:06:16 UTC - in response to Message 1808201.  

So nice to see you around. I am left wondering why there was no reply to my asking how big an estate has to be before the estate tax is applied.

Waiting in anticipation.
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Message 1808233 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 3:34:23 UTC

When DEM/Lib/COMMIE/Socialist/Leftist/Anarchists PROTESTORS and RIOTERS are Calling for Da 'Murder' of Our BlueLives, Where Is Da LameStreamClintoNewsNetworks CONDEMNATIONS and BALLISTIC Ad Nauseam Commentaries? Answer: NOWHERE.

Their NON-STOP CONDEMNATIONS and BALLISTIC Ad Nauseam Commentaries 'bout DJTs 'Comment' Today is LAUGHABLE, when Their History of Coverage of REAL COMMENTS of PROTESTORS and RIOTERS Against BlueLives is Non-Existent.

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Message 1808235 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 3:53:46 UTC - in response to Message 1808233.  

Dull who was once a worm your perception of reality is very biased. You are still smoking the good stuff. In other words I call BS, as I challenged Clyde cite examples or stop wasting bandwidth.
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Message 1808247 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 4:49:04 UTC - in response to Message 1808228.  

So nice to see you around. I am left wondering why there was no reply to my asking how big an estate has to be before the estate tax is applied.

Waiting in anticipation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=estate+has+to+be+before+the+estate+tax+is+applied.&oq=estate+has+to+be+before+the+estate+tax+is+applied.&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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Message 1808254 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 5:32:40 UTC - in response to Message 1808247.  

So nice to see you around. I am left wondering why there was no reply to my asking how big an estate has to be before the estate tax is applied.

Waiting in anticipation.

https://www.google.com/search?q=estate+has+to+be+before+the+estate+tax+is+applied.&oq=estate+has+to+be+before+the+estate+tax+is+applied.&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Isn't it wonderful that a simple search can reveal that one of Trumps financial proposals only applies to the top 0.2% of the US population.

I wonder how that is going to help the white blue collar workers, even if they do still have a job and pay taxes.
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Message 1808262 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 6:35:40 UTC - in response to Message 1808254.  

I wonder how that is going to help the white blue collar workers, even if they do still have a job and pay taxes.

About has much Clinton's. Har! ;^)

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/10/keep-eye-on-candidates-plans-for-your-wallet-advisors.html
Clinton's plan to reduce the exemption to $3.5 million and increase the top tax rate from 40 percent to 45 percent would affect an estimated 0.4 percent of estates. But her plan includes no indexing for inflation, which could result in larger numbers of estates being affected by it over time.
— By Sarah O'Brien, special to CNBC.com

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Message 1808267 - Posted: 10 Aug 2016, 6:55:08 UTC - in response to Message 1808262.  

I wonder how that is going to help the white blue collar workers, even if they do still have a job and pay taxes.

About has much Clinton's. Har! ;^)

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/10/keep-eye-on-candidates-plans-for-your-wallet-advisors.html
Clinton's plan to reduce the exemption to $3.5 million and increase the top tax rate from 40 percent to 45 percent would affect an estimated 0.4 percent of estates. But her plan includes no indexing for inflation, which could result in larger numbers of estates being affected by it over time.
— By Sarah O'Brien, special to CNBC.com

Drink much?
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