I'm going to try to stay up past my bedtime and watch Melania.

BBC - US election: Melania Trump 'plagiarised' Michelle Obama
WP - Melania Trump’s speech appears to have cribbed from Michelle Obama’s in 2008

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

It's akin to shooting yourself in the foot while it's firmly lodged in your mouth. As one wag said on Twitter, I'd rather be the guy who led the failed Turkish coup than the guy who wrote the #MelaniaTrump speech.

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I'm going to try to stay up past my bedtime and watch Melania.

BBC - US election: Melania Trump 'plagiarised' Michelle Obama
WP - Melania Trump’s speech appears to have cribbed from Michelle Obama’s in 2008

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

It's akin to shooting yourself in the foot while it's firmly lodged in your mouth. As one wag said on Twitter, I'd rather be the guy who led the failed Turkish coup than the guy who wrote the #MelaniaTrump speech.

Almost seemed to be delivered with the sincerity of a wife whose husband beats her describing how great he is.

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I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

Goodness, none of you people think any
of Trump's fanatics care about all of
this do you?



edit:
It seems that Mrs. Trump may be in the family way eh...

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It seems that Mrs. Trump may be in the family way eh...

She may have put on some weight since GQ NSFW www.google.com/#q=melania+knauss+GQ

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I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

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I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.

Yes. Remember he suffers from rectal cranial inversion, so he has to set his pants on fire every week at least.
http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/pants-fire/

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Both of them are frauds and probably both deserve to be locked up ... in a cell ... together, Maybe with "female Ted Cruz"?

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.

Oh, gimmie a break...


Politics. Plagiarism.

Vice President Biden says (on this subject) "Everybody does it."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIaALKHVrAA

Politics is more properly called political philosophy.

Modern Philosophy is nothing but a rehash of the philosophy that has been before.

To quote something from ANOTHER subset of philosophy, 'religious philosophy':

(2) Vanity of vanities, says the Preacher,
vanity of vanities! All is vanity.

(8) All things are full of weariness; a man cannot utter it;
the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.

(9) What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.

(10) Is there a thing of which it is said, “See, this is new”? It has been already in the ages before us.

(11) There is no remembrance of former things, nor will there be any remembrance of later things yet to be among those who come after.

(14) I have seen everything that is done under the sun, and behold, all is vanity and a striving after wind.

- Ecclesiastes 1: 2, 8-11, 14 -- ESV (English Standard Version).

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ecclesiastes+1&version=ESV

Ms. Trump (or more likely her speechwriter) may have lifted some material from a speech Ms. Obama gave a couple of DNCs ago. So?

Ms. Obama (or more likely her speechwriter) lifted some of the material from *that* speech ( a couple of lines) from Saul Alinsky's publication "Rules for Radicals"... (the phrases 'world as it is' and 'world as it should be'.) So?

Mr. Obama lifted some stuff from Deval Patrick. So?

Ms. Clinton lifted some stuff from Mr. Sanders. So? (he probably lifted it from someone else anyway).

Plagiarism... They ALL do it. To expect them to either not use others words and/or ideas, or to provide attribution when they do, would be... quite unrealistic.

Either the politicians would be silent, or they would be giving attributions for at least 90% of the time they are talking.

Hmm... Silent politicians... Perhaps that might not be a bad thing...

Additional sources:

Clyde, for his frequent references to the cycles of history.

BSG (reimagined) (the next 2):

Roslin: If you believe in the gods, then you believe in the cycle of time that we are all playing our parts in a story that is told again, and again, and again throughout eternity. (Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part I)

Six: "All this has happened before, and all this will happen again." (The Hand of God)



Neitzsche -- Thus Spake Zarathrustra, Part 3, XLVI, 2 wrote:

"Halt, dwarf!" said I. "Either I—or thou! I, however, am the stronger of the two:—thou knowest not mine abysmal thought! IT—couldst thou not endure!"

Then happened that which made me lighter: for the dwarf sprang from my shoulder, the prying sprite! And it squatted on a stone in front of me. There was however a gateway just where we halted.

"Look at this gateway! Dwarf!" I continued, "it hath two faces. Two roads come together here: these hath no one yet gone to the end of.

This long lane backwards: it continueth for an eternity. And that long lane forward—that is another eternity.

They are antithetical to one another, these roads; they directly abut on one another:—and it is here, at this gateway, that they come together. The name of the gateway is inscribed above: 'This Moment.'

But should one follow them further—and ever further and further on, thinkest thou, dwarf, that these roads would be eternally antithetical?"—

"Everything straight lieth," murmured the dwarf, contemptuously. "All truth is crooked; time itself is a circle."

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/1998/1998-h/1998-h.htm#link2H_4_0051

The same thing keeps happening, over and over.

I've seen it before, I will see it again.

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

Is this for real? US today?

Lawmakers must consider religion: The platform also calls lawmakers to use religion as a guide when drafting legislation, and says "that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights."

Republican convention 2016: the RNC platform, explained
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12200706/rnc-platform-republican-convention-2016

Geez so to speak...

I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.

Oh, gimmie a break...



Ms. Trump (or more likely her speechwriter) may have lifted some material from a speech Ms. Obama gave a couple of DNCs ago. So?

Ms. Obama (or more likely her speechwriter) lifted some of the material from *that* speech ( a couple of lines) from Saul Alinsky's publication "Rules for Radicals"... (the phrases 'world as it is' and 'world as it should be'.) So?

Mr. Obama lifted some stuff from Deval Patrick. So?

Ms. Clinton lifted some stuff from Mr. Sanders. So? (he probably lifted it from someone else anyway).

Plagiarism... They ALL do it. To expect them to either not use others words and/or ideas, or to provide attribution when they do, would be... quite unrealistic.


The same thing keeps happening, over and over.

I've seen it before, I will see it again.

I don't care so much about the plagiarism. As you said, it happens all the time. All I care about is how he handled it, and all he did - all he ever does - is blame others.

Is this for real? US today?

Lawmakers must consider religion: The platform also calls lawmakers to use religion as a guide when drafting legislation, and says "that man-made law must be consistent with God-given, natural rights."

Republican convention 2016: the RNC platform, explained
http://www.vox.com/2016/7/18/12200706/rnc-platform-republican-convention-2016

Geez so to speak...

Yes, the republicans just adopted Sharia!

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I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.

Oh, gimmie a break...



Ms. Trump (or more likely her speechwriter) may have lifted some material from a speech Ms. Obama gave a couple of DNCs ago. So?

Ms. Obama (or more likely her speechwriter) lifted some of the material from *that* speech ( a couple of lines) from Saul Alinsky's publication "Rules for Radicals"... (the phrases 'world as it is' and 'world as it should be'.) So?

Mr. Obama lifted some stuff from Deval Patrick. So?

Ms. Clinton lifted some stuff from Mr. Sanders. So? (he probably lifted it from someone else anyway).

Plagiarism... They ALL do it. To expect them to either not use others words and/or ideas, or to provide attribution when they do, would be... quite unrealistic.


The same thing keeps happening, over and over.

I've seen it before, I will see it again.

I don't care so much about the plagiarism. As you said, it happens all the time. All I care about is how he handled it, and all he did - all he ever does - is blame others.

But 'blame others' is what politicians, by and large, *DO*. How is Trump ANY different?

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https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.

I guess I sort of forgot there are speech writers(in which case the blame can be directed to), but I'm amazed Trump's would borrow so many turns of a phrase from Obama's.

Gordon, remember The Donald claims to hire only the best. ROTFLMAO.

What's worse is that he had the audacity to blame Hillary for the uproar over the plagiarism rather than addressing it within his party. Is this what we can expect from four years of his presidency? Crooked Hillary is sounding better and more trustworthy by the minute in comparison.

Oh, gimmie a break...



Ms. Trump (or more likely her speechwriter) may have lifted some material from a speech Ms. Obama gave a couple of DNCs ago. So?

Ms. Obama (or more likely her speechwriter) lifted some of the material from *that* speech ( a couple of lines) from Saul Alinsky's publication "Rules for Radicals"... (the phrases 'world as it is' and 'world as it should be'.) So?

Mr. Obama lifted some stuff from Deval Patrick. So?

Ms. Clinton lifted some stuff from Mr. Sanders. So? (he probably lifted it from someone else anyway).

Plagiarism... They ALL do it. To expect them to either not use others words and/or ideas, or to provide attribution when they do, would be... quite unrealistic.


The same thing keeps happening, over and over.

I've seen it before, I will see it again.

I don't care so much about the plagiarism. As you said, it happens all the time. All I care about is how he handled it, and all he did - all he ever does - is blame others.

But 'blame others' is what politicians, by and large, *DO*. How is Trump ANY different?

In the face of hard evidence, politicians might try to throw others under the bus in front of them, but largely the expectation when the evidence is so clear is to acknowledge it, say they will look into it and make it never happen again. Of course it will happen again, but such handling is the expectation.

You guys are giving me less and less motive to drop by :)

So the ONE person in the states that has done a thousand times more damage than Trump... (No, really)

The one person that makes an 8-year Donald-stint look positively harmless compared to his own reign of negative influence in America...

US Prime Psychopath #1 is all over the news these days...

And you guys are squabbling over Trump when the Big Kahuna Roger Ailes is in all sorts of trouble?

:D

And you guys are squabbling over Trump when the Big Kahuna Roger Ailes is in all sorts of trouble?

Misogynists united, Faux and Drumpf!

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WP - A Trump staffer apologizes for Melania’s speech, as the campaign drags the story out another day

BBC - Staffer admits role in Melania speech

Does it really matter who wins in November...

When this happens

Trump's Foreign Policy Advisor...

"He will never give up his style, his way to target his enemies. The Americans are fed up with the bullshit they heard for many years. They want the truth, they want to believe what their leaders are saying again. Trump is such an underdog, a fighter -- a man who rebels against the establishment, against all kinds of resistance. That is what Americans love."

... :-)

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