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KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
... maybe we should tear up them old European treaties called the U.N and then we can tell you lot to F-off when your nutters try and come here :-) So, you are honestly afraid of THIS happening if Trump is elected??? |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
MK a skilled operator NEVER Pushes the BIG RED BUTTON unless there is no other choice Doubt Trump can't Turn his I-Pad on let alone work it he'd be paying someone to do that for him :-) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
@ Major Kong. It depends on which commander of the US Air Force being selected by Trump. The present nuclear threat from domestic, foreign countries and terrorist organizations keep Dr. Strangelove relevant and it is the film itself that continues to remind its audience of one horrific fact—accidents will happen. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
As for weather I think he would use nukes Pushed into a corner yes , I'm more worried he won't be able to handle things and they will get out of hand before he realises , Forever the showman . International Politics is much different Will he a line himself with the TEA Party Types or be middle of the road , He's not a socialist so no worry's there :-) |
JaundicedEye Send message Joined: 14 Mar 12 Posts: 5375 Credit: 30,870,693 RAC: 1 |
Actually the Tea Party would be the best thing that could happen as they would be more likely to embrace an isolationist position and allow the rest of the world to go to hell in a hand basket of their own fashioning. Whomever wins in November would be well served to listen to this very good advice from Mark Knopfler.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1axx2FJUTg "Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)> |
bobby Send message Joined: 22 Mar 02 Posts: 2866 Credit: 17,789,109 RAC: 3 |
Actually the Tea Party would be the best thing that could happen as they would be more likely to embrace an isolationist position and allow the rest of the world to go to hell in a hand basket of their own fashioning. Yeah, or one of the worst things. How much business would be lost to if the US were to go the isolationist route? What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? Why would anyone suggest the North Korean way of conducting international business is a good approach to ensuring prosperity? I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
How much business would be lost to if the US were to go the isolationist route? What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? Oh dear! Big Mac is a wellknown product even in the Sakha (Yakutia) Republic in far nort-east Russia! Well now they have to be stuck with walruss beef and lard:) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Does McDonalds have a patent/trade-mark on beef hamburgers? Yes. Big Mac is a trademark. Could not Putin start a chain of Surf&Turf Hamburger Joints and say I don't know about beef-slurry but Russia do have hamburgers. It's called Kotleti there. Inspired by a 1936 trip to America, Stalin's food supply commissar Anastas Mikoyan wanted to copy Yankee burgers in Russia, but somehow the bun got lost in the shuffle:) https://www.finedininglovers.com/stories/kotleti-russian-hamburgers/ Now since the Donald have a german heritage where hamburgers originate from it's weird that he started to sell Trump Steaks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyONt_ZH_aw |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
[quote]Does McDonalds have a patent/trade-mark on beef hamburgers? Donald Trump's mother is Mary Anne née Macleod from Scotland. However the Donald once stated that his family comes from Sweden! Not from Germany or Scotland. Why? Since many of his tennants are jewish in NY he would not like to upset them as a german. But his Scotish heritage? He should know better. There's a big difference between kneeling down and bending over. Scots know that. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/05/20/third-cash-owned-5-us-companies/84640704/ Apple (AAPL), Microsoft (MSFT), Alphabet (GOOGL), Cisco Systems (CSCO) and Oracle (ORCL) are sitting on $504 billion, or 30%, of the $1.7 trillion in cash and cash equivalents held by U.S. non-financial companies in 2015, In light of the big brouhaha over the 'Panama Papers', would it really be a bad thing? |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
Ok, I am not really sure about where (which thread) to put this article. It could fit here... or in one of Worm/Dull's rather bizzare gibberish threads... or in the thread on the Panama Papers... Or, quite a number of others. I decided to put it here, since the subject of this thread is directly mentioned in the headline. http://www.salon.com/2016/05/23/donald_trump_is_going_to_win_this_is_why_hillary_clinton_cant_defeat_what_trump_represents/ While I may not agree with ALL of the conclusions/statements in this article, it is (pardon the phrase) dead on the money on most of it. The neofascist reaction, the force behind Trump, has come about because of the extreme disembeddedness of the economy from social relations. The neoliberal economy has become pure abstraction; as has the market, as has the state, there is no reality to any of these things the way we have classically understood them. Americans, like people everywhere rising up against neoliberal globalization (in Britain, for example, this takes the form of Brexit, or exit from the European Union), want a return of social relations, or embeddedness, to the economy. There is a lot more to it. Read it. It may help some, especially those here that are not US Citizens, to understand and make some sense of the vast changes going on in US Politics today. Times, they are a changin... |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/markets/2016/05/20/third-cash-owned-5-us-companies/84640704/ Not really. In a sense that money doesn't exist until being used. But to me it seems to be a problem to use them without the Tax Man wanting his share. Trump empire is linked to 32 offshore companies, including the real estate project Trump Ocean Club International Hotel and Tower in Panama. His name appears 3,540 times in the database, but according to media reports that doesn’t mean he is directly involved since Trump has sold his name to other investors in different countries. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? Don't let the headline writers fool you. US GDP is about $18,000 Billion. So these five have 2.8% of the GDP as cash (or cash equivalents as they like to say). All the rest of the GDP was taxed. And the amount they have is from at least a decade of profits, so at best 0.3% of the money is escaping tax in a given year. Tax rate of 35% on say $50 billion is $17.5 Billion. You look up what the US budget deficit is and tell me if that makes a BIG difference or a little difference. In any case it is a pile of cash they hold. |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? Gary, Oh, I know... I was making a joke response to Bobby's 'what would happen to <corporation list> if the USA went isolationist again?' question. A return to Isolationism for the USA is a move that I do happen to support. Plus, if one actually read the article, one would find that the US$1.7 trillion *INCLUDES* all the cash/cash equivalents held by non-financial (that is not banks, stock brokerage firms, etc.) US corporations, not just that that is held overseas (and out of the reach of the US Internal Revenue Service -- the tax man). Only 72% is held outside the US, so the 2.8% becomes 2%. Ok, US$1.7 trillion * 0.72 * 0.35 * (your figure) 0.1 = roughly US$43 billion in taxes per year... A drop in the bucket compared to the US$534 billion the CBO says will be the US Federal Budget deficit this year. https://www.cbo.gov/taxonomy/term/2/featured |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? You missed the *.1 because it likely takes a decade to accumulate that pile ... |
KWSN - MajorKong Send message Joined: 5 Jan 00 Posts: 2892 Credit: 1,499,890 RAC: 0 |
What would become of amazon, apple, microsoft, mcdonalds, etc, etc.? No, i didn't. |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
No, i didn't.need coffee |
W-K 666 Send message Joined: 18 May 99 Posts: 19013 Credit: 40,757,560 RAC: 67 |
Donald Trump signed off deal designed to deprive US of tens of millions of dollars in tax US presidential hopeful Donald Trump signed off on a controversial business deal that was designed to deprive the American government of tens of millions of dollars in tax, the Telegraph can disclose. So do we have two "criminals" running for POTUS? ********************* Also, Top Donald Trump staffer abruptly let go from campaign amid internal dispute A top Trump staffer was abruptly let go on Wednesday under mysterious circumstances, after a dispute with the campaign’s Florida director. |
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Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30608 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
So do we have two "criminals" running for POTUS? Only two? Or do you mean this time and major parties? |
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