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Message 1778157 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 13:20:10 UTC

How many times has Trump been bankrupt anyone .....he's perfected the art real well
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Message 1778163 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 13:52:38 UTC - in response to Message 1778143.  

Your Senior years will come faster than you can understand.

Life if like a roll of TP. The less there is left the faster it goes.
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Message 1778169 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 14:17:39 UTC
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The world population are getting older.
Median age per country.
http://dadaviz.com/i/4145
However Donald Trump still acts like some school yard bully.

Donald Trump president raps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2esMbHDpfqA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFzMiw0g8Zs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffhQMQsxd9Y&nohtml5=False
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Message 1778170 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 14:18:36 UTC - in response to Message 1778160.  

How many times has Trump been bankrupt anyone .....he's perfected the art real well

I believe it is 4 times.

His explanation:

Legal, Part of Big Business, was against other Mega Capitalists.

Not any excuse regarding Trump. But...

A Politician making Foreign Policy Mistakes. Be considered Political Bankruptcy


A Tax Dodger then

Doesn't it exclude him from the presidents office ?
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Message 1778201 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 21:56:22 UTC - in response to Message 1778177.  
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Trump has not - yet - committed Political Bankruptcy.

As Hillary, running for President, has.


Probably not.
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The recipient of the Law & Society Association's Harry Kalven Jr. Prize for outstanding socio-legal scholarship and a fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, Lempert's interest in applying social science research to legal issues is reflected in his work on juries, capital punishment, and the use of statistical and social science evidence by courts. His innovative book, A Modern Approach to Evidence, pioneered the problem-oriented approach to evidence. Originally published in 1977, it is in its third edition (with Sam Gross and James Liebman as coauthors) and continues to hold its place as a leading coursebook on evidence. Lempert is also the author (with Joseph Sanders) of An Invitation to Law and Social Science, and co-editor of Under the Influence? Drugs and the American Work Force. His recent articles have appeared in the St. Louis Law Review, Virginia Law Review, Law and Society Review, and Law and Social Inquiry.

Professor Lempert is a graduate of Oberlin College, the University of Michigan Law School, and holds a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of Michigan. In 2000, Lempert was named founding director of the University's Life Sciences, Values, and Society Program (LSVSP). He continues to direct the program while on leave and travels to Ann Arbor regularly in connection with his LSVSP responsibilities.


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Message 1778204 - Posted: 11 Apr 2016, 22:02:55 UTC - in response to Message 1778157.  

How many times has Trump been bankrupt anyone .....he's perfected the art real well

I don't think he has, but some of his companies have.
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Message 1778366 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 16:34:02 UTC
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H. G. Wells. The World Set Free

Government was a treaty, not a design; it was forensic, conservative, disputatious, unseeing, unthinking, uncreative; throughout the world, except where the vestiges of absolutism still sheltered the court favourite and the trusted servant, it was in the hands of the predominant caste of lawyers, who had an enormous advantage in being the only trained caste. Their professional education and every circumstance in the manipulation of the fantastically naive electoral methods by which they clambered to power, conspired to keep them contemptuous of facts, conscientiously unimaginative, alert to claim and seize advantages and suspicious of every generosity. Government was an obstructive business of energetic fractions, progress went on outside of and in spite of public activities, and legislation was the last crippling recognition of needs so clamorous and imperative and facts so aggressively established as to invade even the dingy seclusions of the judges and threaten the very existence of the otherwise inattentive political machine.

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The Political World Is DISGUSTING.

Vote Least DISGUSTING. DJTrump. Prez in '17

Our ONLY Hope, for CHANGE.


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May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1778376 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 17:42:26 UTC - in response to Message 1778248.  

I was speaking of Hillary's failed Russian Re-Set...


Can somebody please expand on this a bit? I'd like to find out more.

Oh, and I hit a mini-jackpot today :) Some days the internet makes you feel like there's a plethora of answers to any question imaginable and other times either my google-fu fails me or it's just next to impossible to find.

Well today I got lucky. In all the economics stuff I've been reading & watching I've never managed to find anyone guesstimate what's being said in the first 1:20 in this vid (you don't really need to watch the rest):

Real-Life Gordon Gekko Is Feeling The Bern

5-10%? Ouch! I thought at worst that'd be 25-35% :(
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Message 1778381 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 18:03:44 UTC

H. G. Wells. The World Set Free
Thanks Guns, I've never read that before, lots of 'truth' there(now will come the circular debate as to the meaning of truth..........sigh...).

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Message 1778436 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 19:52:26 UTC
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If Trump loses in a contested convention will he try to run as an independent or support the nominee? Would he accept VP? Would Cruz accept being Trump's VP?

I can say with almost 100% surety Trump would not accept a VP role, but I think he would run independently if he felt he was in any way treated unfairly at the convention.

I really haven't paid this much attention to the presidential race since Ford and Carter!
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Message 1778444 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 20:05:42 UTC - in response to Message 1778441.  

Trump is a Rank Amateur.


No doubt about that, but I think in spite of it all, he's probably even surprised himself deep down inside that he's gotten this far. I will give him credit though that as many times in the past that he postured about running he didn't, and I never thought he would, but this may be the best opportunity that has ever presented itself for him.
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Message 1778445 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 20:08:08 UTC

Trump won't run as an independent, he'd have to spend his own money.......

Gerald Ford was a good man who was treated badly, his calm demeanor helped heal the biggest rift in America since the Civil War. Far better VP than Agnew....

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Message 1778454 - Posted: 12 Apr 2016, 20:32:59 UTC - in response to Message 1778445.  


Gerald Ford was a good man who was treated badly, his calm demeanor helped heal the biggest rift in America since the Civil War. Far better VP than Agnew....

Ever since the partisan demeanor the Newt brought the the Republican party they have no taste for good people. Winning means more to them than doing the right thing.
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Gerald Ford was a good man who was treated badly, his calm demeanor helped heal the biggest rift in America since the Civil War. Far better VP than Agnew....

Ever since the partisan demeanor the Newt brought the the Republican party they have no taste for good people. Winning means more to them than doing the right thing.


Timeline? Because the first batsh*t-crazy young psycho republicans (I think) appeared during Reagan's admin. I probably got that from this fantastic doc:

Casino Jack and the United States of Money

Edit:
Eew! Pro IMDB? Bleah! Blame Bing for putting it up top and me for... using Bing;)
Here's vanilla IMDB:
Casino Jack and the United States of Money

Since next to no-one will have watched or will watch the doc, please just watch the trailer on IMDB. It's only 2:30 min :) I promise it's worth two-and -a-half minutes of your life.
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Message 1778578 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 3:13:12 UTC - in response to Message 1778480.  
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Gerald Ford was a good man who was treated badly, his calm demeanor helped heal the biggest rift in America since the Civil War. Far better VP than Agnew....

Ever since the partisan demeanor the Newt brought the the Republican party they have no taste for good people. Winning means more to them than doing the right thing.


Timeline? Because the first batsh*t-crazy young psycho republicans (I think) appeared during Reagan's admin. I probably got that from this fantastic doc:

Casino Jack and the United States of Money

Edit:
Eew! Pro IMDB? Bleah! Blame Bing for putting it up top and me for... using Bing;)
Here's vanilla IMDB:
Casino Jack and the United States of Money

Since next to no-one will have watched or will watch the doc, please just watch the trailer on IMDB. It's only 2:30 min :) I promise it's worth two-and -a-half minutes of your life.


@ Alex
And just what, pray tell, could I possibly learn about the evil of lobbyists, and the corruption of money in politics from watching that film that... uhh... I DON'T ALREADY KNOW??? (as should all 'Americans' that pay attention and don't have their heads in the sand).

@ Everyone
Been there.... Done that... (both sides)... quit it in total disgust at the... crap these people get away with.

This is the MAIN reason I am no longer a 'R', nor a 'D' for that matter. Both of them do the same dang things.

Yes, some of you are correct when you point out the evil in large corporations.

Others need to see that the same evil is present in labor unions.

What can we do to stop this?

Many say 'pass a law'. Well:

Tacitus wrote:
The more corrupt a government, the more numerous are its laws.


The ONLY rational solution to the problem of money-corruption of government is to put strict, severe limits on government power.

When the government has no power to do something, it really doesn't matter to attempt to influence politicians on the subject with large sums of money.

Back (slightly) on topic...

Trump...

He is bad, evil poison.

But guess what? So are all the other candidates from the two major parties. Even the relative newcomer, Cruz, has now been owned by special-interest factions through the power of lobbyist's moneybags.

Do yourself a favor this fall. Do the nation a favor this fall. Vote for candidates, in every race you can (not just President), that will support a return to strict, Constitutional, limits on government's power (and NOT one from either the Republicrats or the Democans -- they are really just two sides of the same authoritarian coin).

Let there be Liberty and Freedom in the USA once again!
https://youtu.be/iY57ErBkFFE

#Texit

Don't blame me, I voted for Johnson(L) in 2016.

Truth is dangerous... especially when it challenges those in power.
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Message 1778583 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 3:38:35 UTC - in response to Message 1778578.  


Do yourself a favor this fall. Do the nation a favor this fall. Vote for candidates, in every race you can (not just President), that will support a return to strict, Constitutional, limits on government's power (and NOT one from either the Republicrats or the Democans -- they are really just two sides of the same authoritarian coin).

Let there be Liberty and Freedom in the USA once again!

Major I would probably like what ever you are smoking.
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Message 1778594 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 4:27:13 UTC - in response to Message 1778248.  
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WinterKnight...

I was speaking of Hillary's failed Russian Re-Set, Libya, Benghazi (Calling the loved ones of the dead Liars), etc.

Remember when Hillary was asked who was lying. When ALL the grieving relatives (including one writing down her statement immediately after), stated she said it was "a video". She answered "Well, I'm not".

Totally disgusting.

However... Because I have very little respect for almost all politicians:

I will again be voting for the Lesser of Two Evils, if Trump or Cruz gets the nomination. Going into the voting booth, while holding my nose, and voting for Hillary


Well That's smart voting pitty us the voter has to do it but we hold the power not them

Plus you can always stop her in the senate(congress) after 2 years with the 1/2 senate vote

As you say the lesser of 2 evils

Hitler had to win 2 elections to get power so no harm in throwing a spanner in the works for 2 years it will at least make them start to do there job instead of taking bribes
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Message 1778599 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 4:41:14 UTC - in response to Message 1778578.  

Kong go greenie mate or independent

As for small gov isn't that a lot of the problem too many small governments making different rules and this allows some to be corrupt .

Government is there to do the big things as you say well what are the big things .

Not even Utopia has a small government .

You mean a clean transparent government that's honest .

Well you wont get that voting Millionaires and Billionaires into government they will all ways have a conflict of interest and abstaining is a joke .
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Message 1778713 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 11:51:13 UTC
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/04/07/from-ukraine-to-trump-tower-paul-manafort-unafraid-to-take-on-controversial-jobs/
Paul Manafort has a history of working for strong men.

Over a 40-year career as a lobbyist and political consultant, Manafort and his firms have advised, in no particular order, a business group tied to Ferdinand Marcos, the dictator of the Philippines; Viktor Yanukovych, the ousted Ukrainian president and ally of Vladimir Putin; and Lynden Pindling, the former Bahamian prime minister who was accused of ties to drug traffickers.

Now, he works for Donald Trump.


Another one who worked for ousted Ukrainian president Yanukovych is "Tad" Devine currently the chief strategist for Bernie Sanders.
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Message 1778777 - Posted: 13 Apr 2016, 18:09:17 UTC

I'm locking this thread and any other ones that are getting ridiculous with personal back and forth insults. Reopening in an hour or so.
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