I do understand your unwillingness to answer. Never expected you would.

Oh the irony. You were asked to provide details in support of your accusation that "Hillary says Men, Whites, Christians, are...". To date there's been none, and now you accuse Es of being unwilling to answer.

Despite all your misdirection, your motives are transparent, as Gary notes, you display the characteristics of a "wretched fearsome creature that lives under bridges and demands tolls to pass".

Clyde is the King of the non-answer and sweeping (often insulting) unfounded generalisation.

However, I do not think that calling him a troll is helpful. Either he believes what he says, and then the best way is to engage him civilly at face value and not take it too seriously. Or, if he were a troll, then the best way is to engage him civilly and take him at face value, because a true troll wants nothing more than to cause uproar.

I don't believe I was attributing to him being a narcissist, psychopath, and sadist. However there is fascinating research being done that can predict who is a troll. However one thing stood out

But one thing in particular helped these odious Internet users stand out from their mild-mannered counterparts. “They receive more replies than average users,” says the paper, “suggesting that they might be successful in luring others into fruitless, time-consuming discussions.”

Which leads to the oft quoted advice to others to place the sadists on ignore and not engage them at all, even civilly. There is nothing so frustrating to them as to not be able to obtain their sexual glee by seeing the hurt they cause others.

It would not surprise me to have a study point out that terrorists got their start as internet trolls, considering how much enjoyment they obtain from hurting others.

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I don't believe I was attributing to him being a narcissist, psychopath, and sadist. However there is fascinating research being done that can predict who is a troll. However one thing stood out

But one thing in particular helped these odious Internet users stand out from their mild-mannered counterparts. “They receive more replies than average users,” says the paper, “suggesting that they might be successful in luring others into fruitless, time-consuming discussions.”

Which leads to the oft quoted advice to others to place the sadists on ignore and not engage them at all, even civilly. There is nothing so frustrating to them as to not be able to obtain their sexual glee by seeing the hurt they cause others.

It would not surprise me to have a study point out that terrorists got their start as internet trolls, considering how much enjoyment they obtain from hurting others.

Clyde doesn't bother me as much as he does other people. He really doesn't. I've known actual narcissists and psychopaths (unfortunately) and even had difficulties with them on these very boards. If Clyde is one, he's an amateur. I think you give him too much credit.

However, I do sincerely believe that Trump is running his campaign just like an internet troll. He says whatever will get a reaction and get him his free press. I don't think he believes anything he says. I don't think those supporters will be getting their wall.

Trump is a narcissist arsehole and would no doubt bankrupt America like he has so many of his own businesses, but the one who really scares me is Cruz. He's the one who believes in the End of Days.

Clyde is just bored.

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Reality Internet Personality

"fruitless, time-consuming discussions”

that

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Trump is a narcissist arsehole and would no doubt bankrupt America like he has so many of his own businesses.

And you are ignorant beyond belief if you think that is all Trump has up his sleeve.
He is, in my estimation, the greatest hope this country has ever had of renewing it's former glory.
Please stay up north where your ignorance is better appreciated.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

He is, in my estimation, the greatest hope this country has ever had of renewing it's former glory.

So in your eyes the former glory of the United States was being a hegemonic bully? Strange that someone would rate being anti-social as a trait to be admired and looked up to. Then again perhaps is it the narcissism in action.

@es, yes Drumpf is a troll. A real one with all the psychological symptoms. It wouldn't surprise me if he would test so far from normal on a MMPI that it would make him subject to the 25th Amendment process.

Cruz is another Abrahamist, those persons who are wiling to kill and be killed over fairy tales. We see their carnage in the mid east. I for one do not want the reign of destruction that any of their ilk would being upon America.

Thankfully there is another choice. http://www.lp.ogr

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I wish politics didn't stir up so much anger in people.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

He is, in my estimation, the greatest hope this country has ever had of renewing it's former glory.

So in your eyes the former glory of the United States was being a hegemonic bully? Strange that someone would rate being anti-social as a trait to be admired and looked up to. Then again perhaps is it the narcissism in action.

@es, yes Drumpf is a troll. A real one with all the psychological symptoms. It wouldn't surprise me if he would test so far from normal on a MMPI that it would make him subject to the 25th Amendment process.

Cruz is another Abrahamist, those persons who are wiling to kill and be killed over fairy tales. We see their carnage in the mid east. I for one do not want the reign of destruction that any of their ilk would being upon America.

Thankfully there is another choice. http://www.lp.ogr

Except that the libertarian philosophy was founded by someone who thinks that psychopaths are the ideal. Certainly not an alternative I could recommend.

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Well if he gets in...

"The property mogul spoke out after saying that, were he to become President, he would make America's allies pay for the 'cloak of protection' the US offers."

England not safe says Trump

He is, in my estimation, the greatest hope this country has ever had of renewing it's former glory.

So in your eyes the former glory of the United States was being a hegemonic bully? Strange that someone would rate being anti-social as a trait to be admired and looked up to. Then again perhaps is it the narcissism in action.

@es, yes Drumpf is a troll. A real one with all the psychological symptoms. It wouldn't surprise me if he would test so far from normal on a MMPI that it would make him subject to the 25th Amendment process.

Cruz is another Abrahamist, those persons who are wiling to kill and be killed over fairy tales. We see their carnage in the mid east. I for one do not want the reign of destruction that any of their ilk would being upon America.

Thankfully there is another choice. http://www.lp.ogr

Except that the libertarian philosophy was founded by someone who thinks that psychopaths are the ideal. Certainly not an alternative I could recommend.

Libertarian philosophy has a longer history than objectivism.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Well if he gets in...
"The property mogul spoke out after saying that, were he to become President, he would make America's allies pay for the 'cloak of protection' the US offers."
England not safe says Trump

Trump should know this.
NATO is unable to protect Europe from Daesh.
Very much like the US Defense couldn't protect America from 9/11.
And where was the 'cloak of protection' in Brussels, Paris, Madrid, London, Oslo not so long time ago?

Well Sirius if Trump wants to go down that track he's going to make a hell of a lot of enemy's of his allies

HEY TRUMP YOU LOT OWE US ABOUT A Billion or more so pay up you deadbeat A-hole

And remember ick wad you wish to use Australia as a base just incase you start something with China in the south China sea well mate guess what I say if you wish to go down the track saying your gona make your allies pay ...

F off and find another safer place to put your bombers and troops ......oh that's right there is no other place that is so strategic than Northern Australia to fight China ... Japan gone boom south Koeroa boom gone try that here and there gona need a hell off a lot of Nukes .

So pay what you owe us first or P-off

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He is, in my estimation, the greatest hope this country has ever had of renewing it's former glory.

So in your eyes the former glory of the United States was being a hegemonic bully? Strange that someone would rate being anti-social as a trait to be admired and looked up to. Then again perhaps is it the narcissism in action.

@es, yes Drumpf is a troll. A real one with all the psychological symptoms. It wouldn't surprise me if he would test so far from normal on a MMPI that it would make him subject to the 25th Amendment process.

Cruz is another Abrahamist, those persons who are wiling to kill and be killed over fairy tales. We see their carnage in the mid east. I for one do not want the reign of destruction that any of their ilk would being upon America.

Thankfully there is another choice. http://www.lp.ogr

Except that the libertarian philosophy was founded by someone who thinks that psychopaths are the ideal. Certainly not an alternative I could recommend.

Libertarian philosophy has a longer history than objectivism.

True, but Rand Paul is an Ayn Rand fan boy.

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True, but Rand Paul is an Ayn Rand fan boy.

So was I when I was in junior high school, 54 years ago.

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True, but Rand Paul is an Ayn Rand fan boy.

So was I when I was in junior high school, 54 years ago.

I knew there was something I did not like about him just couldn't put my finger on it .

If he's a Ayn Rand supporter DON't vote for him .

How a Russian old lady had the ear of Greenspan and presidents to spruse her idea of Utopia is beyond me

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Trump is a narcissist arsehole and would no doubt bankrupt America like he has so many of his own businesses, but the one who really scares me is Cruz. He's the one who believes in the End of Days.

Es99...

Trump is not an A.. H... Nor does his bankruptcies mean anything. Just 'Business' with other Mega Capitalists (Trump won).

Trump is playing The Left for the fools they are. And also winning. Negative attacks will not be effective. As Republicans learned.

To defeat a Trump: Stay positive. Don't attack his supporters as (fill-in the negatives).

Regarding Cruz: You may be correct.

BTW: I am busier than I have ever been. Not a boring life in my senior years.

Are we "allowed" to mention his negatives without calling him slurs or addressing those slurs to his supporters?

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Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.

Thankfully there is another choice. http://www.lp.org

Except that the libertarian philosophy was founded by someone who thinks that psychopaths are the ideal. Certainly not an alternative I could recommend.

Libertarian philosophy has a longer history than objectivism.

True, but Rand Paul is an Ayn Rand fan boy.

Not sure what Rand Paul and Ayn Rand have to do with David F. Nolan, who likely read John Stuart Mill.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/will-republicans-find-solace-libertarian-party-n544496

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It's easy to see how this year's campaign will most likely bring out the worst in many of us.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

Drumpf is a narcissist arsehole and would no doubt bankrupt America like he has so many of his own businesses, but the one who really scares me is Cruz. He's the one who believes in the End of Days.

Es99...

Drumpf is not an A.. H... Nor does his bankruptcies mean anything. Just 'Business' with other Mega Capitalists (Drumpf won).

Drumpf is playing The Left for the fools they are. And also winning. Negative attacks will not be effective. As Republicans learned.

To defeat a Drumpf: Stay positive. Don't attack his supporters as (fill-in the negatives).

Regarding Cruz: You may be correct.

BTW: I am busier than I have ever been. Not a boring life in my senior years.

Are we "allowed" to mention his negatives without calling him slurs or addressing those slurs to his supporters?

Sarge...

A Free People, are of course, 'Allowed'.

Instead of Lowering oneself, and Playing by Drumpf's 'Rules', in his 'Arena'.

Stay above his nasty attacks. Maturely pointing out his ridiculous positions.

MOST IMPORTANTLY: Don't call his supporters, Racist, Sexist, Homophobic, etc.

Most are not. But just responding incorrectly, to real concerns.

Repeating: Playing by his Rules, may be a losing effort.

Lowering oneself by labeling an entire group, you mean like this:

It is the Intelligent, Infused with Common Sense People. Who are reacting to the Hateful, Acceptable Bigotry, believing in their Superiority (as the NAZI's do) - Left.

For the sake of our Western Civilization: We must, without censorship, place The Left, Progressive, Marxist, Hate Filled ideas, in the sewer. Where they belong.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Bobby, don't confuse the man with the facts and contradictions of his own words; can't you see he is on a good alternate reality rant?!

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More Trump "Facts"

Trump’s smear of Time magazine as the source for his ‘facts’

“I took a story out of Time magazine, and the story was exactly what it said. It said a $2.2 billion deficit. Now If Time magazine’s wrong, then they should apologize, and I’d, then I would certainly apologize for reading Time magazine. But Time magazine gave that information.”

D Trump

The Facts

In other words, Trump’s claim in the debate was incorrectly stated, was based on old information and had already been thoroughly fact checked

Maybe Trump doesn’t understand the difference between a projected budget shortfall and a budget deficit. Maybe he failed to see the fact checks of his statement before he uttered them yet again in the debate.

But he has no business pinning the blame on Time magazine. (In fact, based at the facts on hand, we doubt Trump got this information from Time.) Time correctly reported the possible shortfall at the time — but the budget issue had already been resolved two weeks before Trump started spouting this factoid. He had even less reason to repeat it again in the debate weeks later.