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Message 1771419 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 19:43:29 UTC - in response to Message 1771403.  

Boy, you just don't get it.

7 in 10 felons register as democrats; therefore, most democrats are felons. What's so hard about that small leap in logic?


It is not a leap in logic. It's a misconstruction of the evidence, to support a statement that cannot be supported. Just as your other examples are for the most part(*) misconstructions of evidence to reach unsupported conclusions.

It's actually a smaller leap in logic than:

The Christian crusades were worse; therefore, all religion is bad today or,

You oppose gay marriage; therefore, you hate gays or,

You oppose abortion; therefore, you hate women or

You oppose illegal immigration; therefore, you hate Mexicans or,

You oppose the president; therefore, you are a racist or,

You oppose Hillary because she's a women; therefore, you're a sexist or,

You oppose the unlimited refugees from Syria; therefore, you're an islamaphobe or,

Here's a picture of people pledging to support Donald Trump. It looks like a Nazi solute; therefore, Trump is Hitler or,

...

just to name a couple.

It fits my agenda; therefore, I can ignore the "whole truth and nothing but the truth" and repeat it ad nauseam until it turns into a shouting match and turns worse from there. After all, as far as I can tell, this is what the majority want, isn't it?

I had not expected you to be so candid about your motive. Guy, seeing as all republicans in that study were felons, do you believe that I am at liberty to say that all republicans are felons? Is that what you want?

(*) I say "for the most part" because "she's a women; therefore, you're a sexist", is not a misconstruction, opposition based on sex alone is sexism. You may be opposed to Hillary for any number of non-sexist reasons, "because she's a woman", is a sexist reason.

Bobby, I conducted a survey of the felons I know. 100% of them are registered as republicans. Therefore (guy logic) all republicans are felons. It (guy logic) is absolutely brilliant. But it gets even better. 25% of those felons vote often. So we now conclude (with guy logic) that 25% of republicans commit vote fraud! No wonder they want to take DNA swabs to vote!

Back to topic, just what is Drumpf saying about Daesh's use of chemical weapons in Iraq?
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Message 1771430 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 21:15:20 UTC

Da mO Da ELITISTs; Libs; Socialiars; CONmies, FelONs DumpOnTrump aka Frankenstein aka HUGE Hands aks RED Button Don aka

YOUR NEXT President,

Da mO YOU ELISTISTs can Get USED TO Mr. President DJTrump.

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Message 1771436 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 21:37:49 UTC
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Message 1771444 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 22:01:52 UTC - in response to Message 1771436.  

“Drumpfinator”
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/drumpfinator/hcimhbfpiofdihhdnofbdlhjcmjopilp

That looks like it could be a useful tool for some.
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Message 1771451 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 22:47:06 UTC - in response to Message 1771336.  

His first one was the 2000 election cycle with the Reform Party. He did win a couple of primaries before he dropped out... Something about he did not like the company (in the party) of Duke (a Klansman), Buchanan (Trump calls him a neo-nazi), and Fulani (a Communist).
Now wait a cotton pickin' minute. Trump declared he had no idea who Duke was just a couple weeks ago. So that makes him a baldfaced liar. That is going to spoil his chances on all those defamation suits he is going to bring ....


Oh really? That makes him a baldfaced liar? ;)

"Baldfaced liar" is Trump's default mode. I say that as an observation, not an accusation.

[BREAK] - I wanted to say "If anyone here has read..." But then I couldn't remember if the subject of microexpressions/Paul Ekman was brought up in one of Gladwell's books, one of the Freakonomics books, or both (I wanna say both but..). Anyway, had a quick look, came up empty... but stumbled on this. Thought I'd share.

It's a matter of white matter ;)

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-some-liars-dont-stop-lying-michael-toebe

But the whole point of this messy little post was to remind everybody:

3) There are liars and there are psychopathic (what most of you like to call sociopathic) liars. Calm down, not calling The Don a psycho (yet), that's just one checkbox on a long list, remember? Good. Now, watch Donald next time you think he's lying about something. "This one goes to 11". He means every single word he says. Not a lot of people can do that.
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Message 1771455 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 22:54:01 UTC - in response to Message 1771444.  

“Drumpfinator”
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/drumpfinator/hcimhbfpiofdihhdnofbdlhjcmjopilp

That looks like it could be a useful tool for some.

For users of FireFox, there's:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/drumpfinator-trump-drumpf/?src=api
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1771462 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 23:51:43 UTC - in response to Message 1771460.  
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Such childish behavior. Liberals always revert to this kind of nonsense.

Childish behavior?
To me Trump acts like a school bully.
Remember the school yard?
Who wants a school bully for a president?

Donald Trump’s rhetorical style is straight out of middle school.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/16/bullying-experts-trump-is-an-eighth-grade-girl.html
Trump has pilloried, in no particular order, John McCain (“not a war hero”), Jeb Bush (“low energy”), Lindsey Graham (“a beggar”), Anderson Cooper (“waste of time”), Megyn Kelly (“blood coming out of her wherever”), Juan Williams (“like a child”), Forbes magazine (“failed magazine”), The Des Moines Register (“very dishonest”), Arianna Huffington (“liberal clown”), The Weekly Standard (“small and slightly failing magazine”), Rick Perry (“should be forced to take an IQ test”), the Republican National Committee (“very foolish”), Heidi Klum (“no longer a 10”), Univision (“they are doing really badly”), The Wall Street Journal (“ever dwindling”), Carly Fiorina (“Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that?”), Bobby Jindal (“I only respond to people that register more than 1 percent in the polls”), Rand Paul (“didn’t get the right gene”).
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Message 1771465 - Posted: 13 Mar 2016, 23:58:52 UTC - in response to Message 1771460.  

Such childish behavior. Liberals always revert to this kind of nonsense.

Two tweets by Drumpf show you how wrong you are:

'If Jon Stewart is so above it all & legit, why did he change his name from Jonathan Leibowitz? He should be proud of his heritage!' (source)

'All the haters and losers must admit that, unlike others, I never attacked dopey Jon Stewart for his phony last name. Would never do that!' (source)

The childish nonsense is Drumpf's.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1771466 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 0:14:32 UTC - in response to Message 1771465.  
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'If Jon Stewart is so above it all & legit, why did he change his name from Jonathan Leibowitz? He should be proud of his heritage!' (source)

Speaking of heritage:)
Trump once said he had a swedish heritage.
In an autobiographical book entitled "The Art of the Deal", which was published in 1987, wrote Donald Trump that his grandfather immigrated to the US from Sweden. But according to the civil registry, as BuzzFeed have read, Trump's grandfather was actually a German.
The author Henry Hurt writes in a Trump biography "The lost tycoon" that the outspoken billionaire attracted with its Swedish roots so as not to upset the Jews who lived in his estate.
"It was another great white lie to deceive the many Jewish tenants in Trump-owned properties," he writes in the book.
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Message 1771468 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 0:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 1771358.  

You're not one of 'Those'. Are you?


CLYDE, the only personal complaints I have against you are that:

a) You don't appear to put a lot of effort into trying to comprehend what another person is struggling to convey and

b) Too often going off on a tangent about the extreme-left (and sometimes the extreme-right) when it's both (more often than not) totally irrelevant and hardly anybody here fits that description anyway. In fact, half the people in this thread are even more "middle-of-the-road" than you are so I'm not sure which choir you're trying to preach to :)

Anyway, I didn't think the 2 of you were Alex Jones listeners and I was right. The reason I pointed it out was to nudge you towards a more informed conclusion. Unfortunately this worked on neither you nor Lynn but at least I know it could have because bobby understood exactly what I was pointing at. The cherry picked quotes do not support/confirm the article's claims/conclusions and that's a lot easier to spot once you've got your guard up.

BTW Apologies for being chronically out-of-sync with this thread.
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Message 1771472 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 0:57:58 UTC

Trumps grandparents comes from Kallstadt, Germany.

I think Trump are confusing Kallstadt with Karlstad that is a town in Värmland, Sweden:)
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article145558110/Donald-Trump-King-of-Kallstadt.html
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Message 1771482 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 2:47:26 UTC - in response to Message 1771370.  

The Left and Progressives are Fundamentally Unintelligent and/or in need of Psychiatric help.


Most democrats are felons.

No Name...

You left out the The Right and KKK.

An innocent omission?


No.
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1771493 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 4:33:22 UTC

This Pew report Global Publics Back U.S. on Fighting ISIS, but Are Critical of Post-9/11 Torture (pdf) would indicate the Trump's views on Islam are a figment of his imagination, or possibly what he thinks the views are of the people who support him.
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Message 1771543 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 11:33:12 UTC

As I pointed out before Trump is a hypocrite about saying he wants jobs to remain in the US and an end out-sourcing, but does the opposite himself. Well now the Washington Post has joined in.

Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs
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Message 1771571 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 14:20:52 UTC - in response to Message 1771543.  
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As I pointed out before Trump is a hypocrite about saying he wants jobs to remain in the US and an end out-sourcing, but does the opposite himself. Well now the Washington Post has joined in.

Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Well, if he becomes President, that shall have to change.
I propose that not ONE single candidate has an agenda that does not collide with their current practices or their past.
Life amends life.
Trump has every right to change his mind upon lessons learned.
That is the way of mankind.
"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

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Message 1771577 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 15:16:09 UTC - in response to Message 1771571.  

As I pointed out before Trump is a hypocrite about saying he wants jobs to remain in the US and an end out-sourcing, but does the opposite himself. Well now the Washington Post has joined in.

Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Well, if he becomes President, that shall have to change.
I propose that not ONE single candidate has an agenda that does not collide with their current practices or their past.
Life amends life.
Trump has every right to change his mind upon lessons learned.
That is the way of mankind.

One question I think you have to ask yourself is "Can I afford to only buy goods made in the USA?"

Here in the UK, in the clothing market, it is difficult to find non-expensive clothes made in he UK. Take jeans, you can buy a pair of shop brand jeans for £5.99 made in Bangladesh. But if you want Levi 501's then you're probably looking at over £30 depending on size. If I want 751's in my size £60+. And I'm not sure all Levi's are made in the US these days.
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Message 1771588 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 16:15:38 UTC - in response to Message 1771577.  

As I pointed out before Trump is a hypocrite about saying he wants jobs to remain in the US and an end out-sourcing, but does the opposite himself. Well now the Washington Post has joined in.

Trump has profited from foreign labor he says is killing U.S. jobs

Well, if he becomes President, that shall have to change.
I propose that not ONE single candidate has an agenda that does not collide with their current practices or their past.
Life amends life.
Trump has every right to change his mind upon lessons learned.
That is the way of mankind.

One question I think you have to ask yourself is "Can I afford to only buy goods made in the USA?"

Here in the UK, in the clothing market, it is difficult to find non-expensive clothes made in he UK. Take jeans, you can buy a pair of shop brand jeans for £5.99 made in Bangladesh. But if you want Levi 501's then you're probably looking at over £30 depending on size. If I want 751's in my size £60+. And I'm not sure all Levi's are made in the US these days.


And THAT is the relevant question, but first, about the Levi jeans...

Most Levi jeans are NOT made in the USA... Only a few of the higher end more expensive jean styles are still made in the USA, but even then there is some question. I remember about 25 years ago or so a scandal involving some of their (Levi's) 'made in the usa' jeans.... weren't.

But back to the subject of the Trump hats...

Trump's campaign hats, labeled 'Make America Great Again'... Made in China.

Sanders' campaign hats, labeled 'Sanders for President'... Made in the USA...

"Can I afford to only buy goods made in the USA?"


Nope, I don't think so...

The problem is that it has become cheaper to make goods on the other side of the world and ship them to the USA than it is to make them here in the first place. Things like high wages and burdensome Government regulation in the USA have made it so.

Would it be better for the USA in the long run to end this practice of offshore outsourceing? Yes, it would. In the short term, would this move cause a LOT of pain? Oh yeah, it would.
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Message 1771594 - Posted: 14 Mar 2016, 16:58:01 UTC - in response to Message 1771588.  

Only a few of the higher end more expensive jean styles are still made in the USA, but even then there is some question. I remember about 25 years ago or so a scandal involving some of their (Levi's) 'made in the usa' jeans.... weren't.
Right down the block from my work, before I get to the fast food joint there is a sweat shop that removes the made in Vietnam tags and sews in made in USA tags. Then they ship all over the USA and the bill goes to some place in Arkansas.
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