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Message 1764775 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 4:00:25 UTC

I just watched the Republican debate. It was scary and depressing. What awful people and why do they hate women so much?
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Message 1764778 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 4:08:22 UTC - in response to Message 1764640.  

Which Countries are self-sustaining. Either within themselves. Or within their region?

North Korea perhaps:)
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Message 1764800 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 5:55:42 UTC - in response to Message 1764775.  

I just watched the Republican debate. It was scary and depressing. What awful people and why do they hate women so much?

Ask their God.
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Message 1764898 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 16:54:24 UTC

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I just watched the Republican debate. It was scary and depressing. What awful people and why do they hate women so much?


Yet, 10s and 10s and 10s of Millions of Women Vote for these Men in Primaries, MId-Terms, etc., and More 10s and 10s and 10s of Millions of Women Vote for these Men in Prez Elections.

My Question Would Be: Why Do You Hate These Women So Much?

Eh?

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Message 1764899 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 16:59:10 UTC - in response to Message 1764889.  

I just watched the Republican debate. It was scary and depressing. What awful people and why do they hate women so much?

Watched with my wife, and we groaned a lot.

However... We didn't see any Anti-Gender bias.

Es99...

Your incorrect assertion (as others from The Left), is what is 'fueling' Trump.

I guess you didn't hear the comments about life beginning at conception..which makes me feel about the same way you do when someone threatens to kick you in the nuts.

I know the history of abortion bans. The consequences for women of such ignorance are awful.

..and yes, women will vote for these people, and then they will realise too late what they have done. Women are just as capable of making stupid decisions as men. However it seems that when a women makes a stupid decision, her entire gender is judged on it, unlike men.
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Message 1764900 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 17:04:25 UTC

Does anyone understand what happened at the Republican debate?
I think this sums up the stupidity.
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Message 1764913 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 17:41:24 UTC - in response to Message 1764908.  

I just watched the Republican debate. It was scary and depressing. What awful people and why do they hate women so much?

Watched with my wife, and we groaned a lot.

However... We didn't see any Anti-Gender bias.

Es99...

Your incorrect assertion (as others from The Left), is what is 'fueling' Trump.

I guess you didn't hear the comments about life beginning at conception..which makes me feel about the same way you do when someone threatens to kick you in the nuts.

I know the history of abortion bans. The consequences for women of such ignorance are awful.

..and yes, women will vote for these people, and then they will realise too late what they have done. Women are just as capable of making stupid decisions as men. However it seems that when a women makes a stupid decision, her entire gender is judged on it, unlike men.

Es99...

Yes I did, and totally disagree.

However... Did not believe that was from a HATE Women position.

This, and other incorrect '...ism' assertions. Is the real reason for a Trump type. They feed upon them.

Just my opinion.

Well when I see a group doing something hateful towards another group I can only assume its from a position of hate.

Yes, you can dress it up as caring about unborn 'babies', but what you are essentially saying is that one set of 'lives' is more important than another. That sounds hateful to me. (I'm not going to even get into the issue of whether these are actual human lives in the first place). You may not see it that way but from where I am sitting its terrifying. Much the same way you would feel if a whole load of women were campaigning on the promise of forcing all men to have vasectomies and mandatory prostate exams. Its dehumanising.
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Message 1764919 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 17:56:42 UTC - in response to Message 1764913.  

Well when I see a group doing something hateful towards another group I can only assume its from a position of hate.
That is a good definition of religion.
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Message 1764929 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 18:18:46 UTC - in response to Message 1764899.  

Women are just as capable of making stupid decisions as men. However it seems that when a women makes a stupid decision, her entire gender is judged on it, unlike men.

I have too agree. There are many examples in the swedish political world where women have to leave their position for making a stupid decision.
However men can go away with it saying "I had no intention"
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Message 1764935 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 18:32:35 UTC - in response to Message 1764923.  



What is your belief concerning an abortion, of a 'full term' pregnancy, minutes before a natural birth?

????

Isn't that just called a birth? They induce birth that way all the time. Or are you talking about a caesarian? Do you understand biology at all? Do you actually know what an abortion is? Or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.
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Message 1765015 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:44:16 UTC - in response to Message 1764935.  

Do you understand biology at all? Do you actually know what an abortion is? Or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.

The scary thing is he might not be trying to be funny.
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Message 1765022 - Posted: 14 Feb 2016, 22:58:17 UTC

ClydeNotClydeSaid:
What is your belief concerning an abortion, of a 'full term' pregnancy, minutes before a natural birth?


The99OneSaid:
Isn't that just called a birth? They induce birth that way all the time. Or are you talking about a caesarian? Do you understand biology at all? Do you actually know what an abortion is? Or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.


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The scary thing is he might not be trying to be funny.


A Woman Can have an Abortion, 9 Months after Conception. All She Needs is A Cooperative Doctor. Do You Know How they 'Kill' this Life?
The LEFT has Pushed 'Abortion' to Allow This. Don't Think So? Hard to Find A 'Progressive' to State 'it' Publicly. A Secret Their Great Willingness for Their Agenda has Created.

Yupping to The Very End.

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Message 1765042 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 0:22:30 UTC - in response to Message 1765022.  

ClydeNotClydeSaid:
What is your belief concerning an abortion, of a 'full term' pregnancy, minutes before a natural birth?


The99OneSaid:
Isn't that just called a birth? They induce birth that way all the time. Or are you talking about a caesarian? Do you understand biology at all? Do you actually know what an abortion is? Or are you trying to be funny? I can't tell.


DaCharpSterSaid:
The scary thing is he might not be trying to be funny.


A Woman Can have an Abortion, 9 Months after Conception. All She Needs is A Cooperative Doctor. Do You Know How they 'Kill' this Life?
The LEFT has Pushed 'Abortion' to Allow This. Don't Think So? Hard to Find A 'Progressive' to State 'it' Publicly. A Secret Their Great Willingness for Their Agenda has Created.

Yupping to The Very End.

Yep.

This is nonsense. No doctor would kill a viable baby, besides, that is technically infanticide and is against the law.

Its terrible the way these lies are spread and shame on you for perpetrating such abject nonsense. Shame on you for even believing its true or pretending to believe it for a reaction.

If a baby can survive without the mother, its not an abortion. Its a live birth. Seriously, you people are scary with your nonsense. Shame on you. All you've done is prove to me with your rampant ignorance that you should absolutely no say what so ever in what any woman chooses to do with her body. If its people with the knowledge of human biology that you've just displayed making up these stupid laws, then we have a bigger problem than I thought. Go read a biology book. If this is the sort of idiocy that people are voting for, then America is in big trouble.

Foolish nonsense.
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Message 1765054 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 1:45:12 UTC - in response to Message 1765042.  

No doctor would kill a viable baby
Perhaps he wasn't a doctor.

To answer Clyde, who insists on a number, sorry, no number. Viable or not is the answer. I'm not expert, I only know that one day after conception is not viable and one day before due date is viable. I don't think the cells read a calendar to make that decision, they use something else. I also know that when the constitution was adopted fathers could beat their children to death until they turned 21, just as they could their slaves. Life was simple then, something even a troglodyte could understand.

If the troglodytes are to have their litmus test abortion debate perhaps it should be moved to another thread. Trump won't be able to be found in this thread otherwise.

Trump wants women as slave chattel. After all who sits their mistress at the same table as your wife?
The obscene self-regard of the man was laid bare for us all.

The rest of the pack of tea jackals would rather own a slave than have a partner. After all when you got shoved ahead by privilege and not by ability you have to find ways to compensate for your short comings.
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Message 1765058 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 2:16:45 UTC - in response to Message 1765054.  

No doctor would kill a viable baby
Perhaps he wasn't a doctor.

As I've already pointed out, there are laws against killing babies.

To answer Clyde, who insists on a number, sorry, no number. Viable or not is the answer. I'm not expert, I only know that one day after conception is not viable and one day before due date is viable. I don't think the cells read a calendar to make that decision, they use something else. I also know that when the constitution was adopted fathers could beat their children to death until they turned 21, just as they could their slaves. Life was simple then, something even a troglodyte could understand.

If the troglodytes are to have their litmus test abortion debate perhaps it should be moved to another thread. Trump won't be able to be found in this thread otherwise.

Agreed, which is why I said that the point at which a baby becomes a baby wasn't a discussion to be had here. It isn't a discussion that really should be had by politicians. A woman should have the right to remove the baby at any point from her body she chooses (and a vanishingly small amount choose to remove it beyond 20 weeks). Perhaps that should be the decider. Perhaps she and the doctor she trusts should be the decider. What shouldn't be the decider is a load of ignorant politicians who still think the bible trumps human rights.

Trump wants women as slave chattel. After all who sits their mistress at the same table as your wife?
The obscene self-regard of the man was laid bare for us all.

The rest of the pack of tea jackals would rather own a slave than have a partner. After all when you got shoved ahead by privilege and not by ability you have to find ways to compensate for your short comings.

Trump has proved several times what he thinks of women. The others follow the biblical (old testament) view of how to treat a woman.
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Message 1765115 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 6:31:51 UTC

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Perhaps she and the doctor she trusts should be the decider.


Exactly as I Said. And 'It' 'Is' Legal. In The U S A.

Don't Think So?

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Message 1765190 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 15:31:26 UTC - in response to Message 1765115.  

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Perhaps she and the doctor she trusts should be the decider.


Exactly as I Said. And 'It' 'Is' Legal. In The U S A.

Don't Think So?

Yep

Its not illegal in Canada, there are no abortion laws at all here. The laws aren't necessary and haven't been shown to be necessary. No politician here will touch it.

So the only reason a US politician will do so is because they don't think women are capable of making these decisions for themselves.
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Message 1765233 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 19:35:03 UTC - in response to Message 1765190.  

The99OneSaid:
Perhaps she and the doctor she trusts should be the decider.


Exactly as I Said. And 'It' 'Is' Legal. In The U S A.

Don't Think So?

Yep

Its not illegal in Canada, there are no abortion laws at all here. The laws aren't necessary and haven't been shown to be necessary. No politician here will touch it.

So the only reason a US politician will do so is because they don't think women are capable of making these decisions for themselves.


Or, they think they will also burn in hell for allowing someone to choose differently than they would, as instructed by their Bible. Except ... .
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Message 1765268 - Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 21:45:33 UTC - in response to Message 1765190.  

Its not illegal in Canada, there are no abortion laws at all here. The laws aren't necessary and haven't been shown to be necessary. No politician here will touch it.
So the only reason a US politician will do so is because they don't think women are capable of making these decisions for themselves.

I find this very strange.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abortion_in_Canada
Here we have abortion laws when the pregnancy have exceeded eighteen weeks.
§ 3 After the end of the eighteenth week of pregnancy an abortion can be performed only if the Social Board leaves the woman permission to the action. Such authorization may be granted only if there are exceptional reasons for the abortion.
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Message 1765319 - Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 0:53:55 UTC - in response to Message 1765255.  

Es99...

Is there a point in any pregnancy. Where two human beings exist?

6 months? 7 months? 8 months? 9 months? Never?

Just asking for your personal opinion. Not medical nor legal.

Edit: I am not asking to attack. Whatever you believe: I will just say OK, giving my opinion (may agree or disagree), and move on.

Don't concern yourself with attacks from (you know who), if he disagrees. Attacks from his type, don't really matter.

No one really knows, so how can you legislate for it? Common sense has always said the baby is not a baby until its born. Although that might be unpleasant in some situations, the reality is the woman is a person, and her rights should trump the babies until its born and can survive without the mother. I am sure if you could imagine a situation where someone was kept alive by being sewn to someone else so they could use their kidney, it would be clear to you that the person's whose kidney it is shouldn't be forced to remain sewn to the other person against their will. Its the same sort of thing. You cannot morally reduce women to being nothing more than incubators, much the same way you can't go around forcing people to share kidneys.
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