Donald tweet in 2013, apparent said, "No one remembers who came in second" LOL

I think most of Trump's support come from people who don't vote. Never have and never will, but they always complain about the government.

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Bob DeWoody

My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events.

You all DID notice that the Obama administration has finally acknowledged late last week that Clinton had Top Secret stuff on that illegal home email-server she was using?

The home email server is not illegal.
Using it for government business is only a minor offence.

Those emails that were classified, were apparently ones she had originated, and therefore not classified at that time.

That would be incorrect, because she would not have invented classified material, she regurgitated it from other classified materials she had seen. So she declassified information without authorization. Much more serious. IIRC wasn't at least one item found SCI?

Yep. Although, according to the last information I have seen, it is 3. The latest figure I have seen on the total number of e-mails found so far with classified information at all levels is a bit over 1300.

These emails got copied over from the secure government e-mail system to the public e-mail system (you can not send an email from the secure system to the unsecure one) so that they could be sent to Clinton's home-system. This is definitely mishandling of classified information.

There have been multiple convictions (ironically during Clinton's term as SecState, and yes she DID condemn the people for the mishandling of the classified information) of people copying classified materials from secure systems over to their personal systems. Even WITHOUT 'intent to distribute', they were still sentenced to felony terms.

Now then, earlier I mentioned 'intent to distribute'. The bulk of these e-mails appear to just have been used by Clinton for her work... BUT...

It appears that several people DID gain access to some of the classified information, made a boat-load of money using said information, and then donated substantial amounts of money to the Clinton Foundation.

Last I heard, the FBI had 150+ agents investigating just this.

Where there is smoke there is usually fire, and Clinton has one heck of a lot of smoke around her.

So how much smoke is there in the Republican camp then.
Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice used private accounts for classified emails

I think that a man with the thought of realizing that the budget should be run like a corporation might be a good thing for this country

Mark the govt is not a corporation, it's purpose is to do what needs to be done what the private sector can not do.

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I think that a man with the thought of realizing that the budget should be run like a corporation might be a good thing for this country

Mark the govt is not a corporation, it's purpose is to do what needs to be done what the private sector can not do.

And you think that gives the government a blank check to raise taxes over and over and still run forever in the red?
You realize this is not sustainable forever.
The American government has gotten away with it for too long already.

And that is part of the anger of the American public that Trump is drawing on, and why many are supporting him.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

I think that a man with the thought of realizing that the budget should be run like a corporation might be a good thing for this country

Mark the govt is not a corporation, it's purpose is to do what needs to be done what the private sector can not do.

And you think that gives the government a blank check to raise taxes over and over and still run forever in the red?

Sounds about like how "trump the bankrupt" ran his businesses. Spend more than you take in...

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So how much smoke is there in the Republican camp then.
Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice used private accounts for classified emails

#1 - Neither ran for President.

#2 - Must be the same outcome for them and Hillary, as Director of the CIA: General David Petraeus.

Sentenced to two years probation and $100,000 fine.

WinterKnight...

What is the difference?

Have you read the article and my previous posts. If you had then you would realise that Colin Powell and I have similar views of government officials who, probably because they don't understand and read a heading or the opening para and immediately decide because it is to do with a particular subject it must be classified at a higher level than is justified.

Powell rejected the inspector general’s findings and called for the emails to be released. He told NBC News: “I wish they would release them, so that a normal, air-breathing mammal would look at them and say, ‘What’s the issue?’”

The former secretary of state explained in a statement that they were forwarded messages that two American ambassadors sent to state department staff. “My executive assistant thought I should see them in a timely manner so sent them to my personal account,” he said.

He said that while the department now has said they are “confidential” – a low level of classification – both messages were unclassified at the time and there was no reason not to forward them to his personal account. “I have reviewed the messages and I do not see what makes them classified,” Powell added. “The ambassadors did not believe the contents were confidential at the time and they were sent as unclassified.”

It is quite probable that this is the same for all these documents.

It is quite probable that this is the same for all these documents.

WinterKnight...

Substitute "possible" for "probable".

In decades past. I worked closely with the FBI. Concerning areas of 'Mutual Interest'. And still have personal relationships with some.

No... I have no 'inside' knowledge regarding the emails.

However... Understanding the thinking and culture of the FBI:

Anyone believing "probable" regarding Guilt or Innocence. Are only basing their judgement upon their political orientation.

BTW: The problem for Hillary, and the others. Is General David Petraeus.

Having been on the end of similar problems I say the word "probable" is absolutely correct.

And you think that gives the government a blank check to raise taxes over and over and still run forever in the red?

Mark I did not say that why did you say I did? As far as taxes and the programs they support there may very well too much waste but that does not necessarily mean the programs aren't needed.

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I think that a man with the thought of realizing that the budget should be run like a corporation might be a good thing for this country

Mark the govt is not a corporation, it's purpose is to do what needs to be done what the private sector can not do.

And you think that gives the government a blank check to raise taxes over and over and still run forever in the red?

Sounds about like how "trump the bankrupt" ran his businesses. Spend more than you take in...

@ everyone,

IMO, Gary makes a good point here, though perhaps he does not realize it.

"Trump the Bankrupt".

Trump has experience in dealing with the aftermath of bankruptcy.

The US Federal Government is, for all practical purposes, bankrupt. Its debts exceed the amount the US economy produces in an entire year (GDP).

Perhaps we do need someone with Trump's experience to help us turn things around and get back into the black (as opposed to the red) ink on our nation's balance sheets.

That said... Trump?!?!? Oy Vey! The Donald needs to go back to guest appearances on WWE broadcasts.

I think that a man with the thought of realizing that the budget should be run like a corporation might be a good thing for this country

Mark the govt is not a corporation, it's purpose is to do what needs to be done what the private sector can not do.

And you think that gives the government a blank check to raise taxes over and over and still run forever in the red?

Sounds about like how "trump the bankrupt" ran his businesses. Spend more than you take in...

@ everyone,

IMO, Gary makes a good point here, though perhaps he does not realize it.

"Trump the Bankrupt".

Trump has experience in dealing with the aftermath of bankruptcy.

The US Federal Government is, for all practical purposes, bankrupt. Its debts exceed the amount the US economy produces in an entire year (GDP).

Perhaps we do need someone with Trump's experience to help us turn things around and get back into the black (as opposed to the red) ink on our nation's balance sheets.

That said... Trump?!?!? Oy Vey! The Donald needs to go back to guest appearances on WWE broadcasts.

Some Good News on America's National Debt
[...]
here's what you may not know the outlook has actually gotten a lot better in the last six or seven years

(source)

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

Trump has experience in dealing with the aftermath of bankruptcy.

He has bragged about using the bankruptcy laws to his advantage. That doesn't endear me to him. Maybe it would if I was in business and I wanted advice on how to bail myself out of something, but as President I'd rather see him create a new way.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

He has bragged about using the bankruptcy laws to his advantage.

There is an integrity thing, I would not but a used car from that person much less book a hotel room. I choose to vote with my dollars.

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There is an integrity thing, I would not but a used car from that person

Exactly.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

IMO, Gary makes a good point here, though perhaps he does not realize it.

"Trump the Bankrupt".

Trump has experience in dealing with the aftermath of bankruptcy.

Sure he deals with it, but the real issue is he creates it first.

But since all bills spending money originate in the House, the office he seeks won't have much more than hot air to do with spending.

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But since all bills spending money originate in the House, the office he seeks won't have much more than hot air to do with spending.

Lots of hot there with The Donald.

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Trump may (hopefully will) self-destruct.

But...

These, and other silly attacks. And not understanding why he is popular. IE: Describing his supporters as (fill-in the negatives). From a position of a smug, and an incorrect belief in ones superiority:

Are contributing to his campaign.

Are you calling your own post silly? If not, the "smug superiority" here would seem to be your view of your fellow posters.

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I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

There is an integrity thing, I would not but a used car from that person

Exactly.

Him and others.

Where are the Great, or at least Good Leaders, as we had in the past?

Better at keeping the filth suppressed?

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I'm just ready to see how New Hampshire plays out. I think Trump is ahead, but as we've seen, polls don't always translate in the end, and it will be interesting to see how Cruz and Rubio do, too.

There's been criticism that Trump is a little distant in his campaigning style, and I think that might be why people supposedly committed to him in polls aren't turning out in reality.

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The mind is a weird and mysterious place

There's been criticism that Trump is a little distant in his campaigning style, and I think that might be why people supposedly committed to him in polls aren't turning out in reality.

Might be agoraphobia. The panic attack because someone might see that you are a Trump supporter. The panic attack that there could be a non-WASP at the polling place. ;-)

Of course it might be that people are just messin' with the pollsters for fun.

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