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Message 1750961 - Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 0:22:23 UTC - in response to Message 1750954.  

Ok, since you are still unsure of what my answer might be, here it is. Ready? "No."

Thanks for finally providing an answer.

Did you actually think I support slavery?

No, as noted earlier, I didn't believe you did.

Would you believe that if I were in the original constitutional convention that I would be pointing out the inconsistency in the declaration of independence and the continued support of slavery?

I didn't realize you were that old.

Would you believe that given the circumstances, I too, would most likely have accepted the 3/5th compromise with those damn slave owning southern democrats in order to get the rest of it ratified with the belief that we would fix that later?

The Democratic Party did not exist until 1828, so it was not "slave owning southern democrats" that argued for the 3/5th compromise.

Why do you think my definitive statement ended 5 July 1776?

No, mainly because the US Constitution wasn't drafted until 1787, and ratified in 1789.

Aren't the 27 amendments attached to it part of the original constitution?

Not without changing the meaning of the word "original". They are part of the Constitution, the original constitution had no amendments.

Can't they be part of the constitution "as written, as intended, and as originally meant?"

Not without changing the meaning of the word "original".

Or are you just following the liberal bible and relentlessly attacking conservatives without logic, empathy or concern?

No, I am using words as they are commonly understood and attempting to see what follows logically from that understanding. Original means "present or existing from the beginning; first or earliest.", thus the "original US Constitution" is the document as it was when ratified in 1789 and does not include any of the amendments.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1750967 - Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 0:54:37 UTC - in response to Message 1750964.  

Well, that's where I thought this would lead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0

Does that mean you're with Bill Clinton and want to obfuscate the meaning of words (in his case "is" and in yours "original")?

Why would you believe anybody would think that you meant anything other than the unamended constitution when you you wrote:

I am *FOR* the constitution, as written, as intended, as originally meant.

Human nature has not changed in a mere 239 years. Technology has, but not human nature.

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I have no idea why you are angry and in a rage over my (perhaps over) literal interpretation of your words.

If you want to avoid confusion, say what you mean and mean what you say. Perhaps something like "I am *FOR* the constitution, as written and amended, not as interpreted by SCOTUS, POTUS and Congress. Human nature has not changed much in a mere 239 (or 228) years, and where it has the amendments have done a good enough job of accounting for that change".
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1750982 - Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 3:01:11 UTC - in response to Message 1750819.  

You support slavery?

Ya see, this is why people are angry.

When I say I'm for the constitution, you demonstrate liberal Tourette’s Syndrome and start accusing me of things like this.

You are correct.

Also agree with Sarge, regarding Fascism increasing in The USA.

Fascism is a response to The Left's:

I just find it so amazing that most of you Yanks will support a racist bigot warmonger

Unfortunately. The response to Evil. Is, most times, another Evil.

As with Marx. Trump correctly identifies The Problem. His Solution, as with Marx, is worse.

There must be a better way to reduce the Internally Hate Filled Left's influence.


Clyde: does not "the response to evil is another evil" (paraphrased) run counter to "evil is evil" and "not due to circumstances"?

When I say fascism is increasing, I am saying I have seen it since before 2008. I have given an example.

I also have another question: is there a "left" and a "right" for the average person that is different for the politicians?
Capitalize on this good fortune, one word can bring you round ... changes.
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Message 1751009 - Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 5:40:41 UTC

You support slavery?


When Has 'It' 'Stopped'?

No 'Bleeding' Scars Across My Back, 'bout Only 'Change'.

Others Still Make Ultimate Sacrifice.

The 'Man' has Become The 'System'.

Slavery Continues for Most.

NO 99 Percent, without The One Percent.

Got 'Chains'.

Yup.

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Message 1751142 - Posted: 22 Dec 2015, 23:56:29 UTC

Clyde Not Clyde said:
Very dangerous.


ROTFLMAO!

VERY DANGEROUS is Hypnotic LOVE FEST, during 2008, and Mostly since, PitifulPeacePrizin'MOOslimLovin'Hustlin'Hussein
has ZOMBIED Upon American Public. Almost EVERYONE Drooled & Slobbered Over this Messiah of Hope & Change.

Hate & Vitriol being Spewed Against DaDuckMan 'is' HEALTHY, and I LOVE 'it'!

Sickness, Rot, Decay & Chaos follows All Who Follow with FERVOR, Vapor As 'Is' Madame Yoga and HypnoticHustlin'Hussein.

DaDuck 'is' Hot, Greasy Tasty REAL MEAT, and IS NOT 'VERY DANGEROUS'.

Healthy and Needed.

U S of A is Decaying Under SICK OPPRESSION of DEM/Lib/Prog 'Slave' 'Masters'.

Got Next 'Meal'?

Yup

May we All have a METAMORPHOSIS. REASON. GOoD JUDGEMENT and LOVE and ORDER!!!!!
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Message 1751262 - Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 12:28:25 UTC - in response to Message 1751094.  

I doubt that the Donald Trump we see on television bears much resemblance to the real Donald Trump. Of course this makes it almost impossible to figure out where he really stands on the critical issues. Even if elected he can't run the country by himself. Obama found this to be true early during his tenure. I very much doubt that we would like living in the USA that he envisioned. I still doubt that Trump will get the republican nomination but I don't see where the other candidates stand a prayer of beating Hillary Clinton.

Bob...

Thank you for attempting to stop the hijacking of this important Subject.

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doubt that the Donald Trump we see on television bears much resemblance to the real Donald Trump.

We disagree.

I believe everything you see, is true. Everything he says, he believes in. It is not hyperbole.

Trump supporters 'pick and choose' what they like, and dismiss everything else.

Very dangerous.

"Everything he says"? Interesting, what about the mutually contradictory statements? For example, in "Trump, the America we deserve", he wrote, "I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.", now he says that he's "a big second amendment person" who doesn't want to extend background checks, and why did he donate money (money = speech, thank you SCOTUS) to Hillary Clinton in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007 and now say that "Hillary Clinton was the worst Secretary of State in the history of the United States"? Will the real Donald Trump please stand up...
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1751263 - Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 12:30:26 UTC - in response to Message 1751258.  

O...W...M...

Evil. Is not a solution to Evil.


Stop thinking like the The Left.


FTFY.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1751269 - Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 13:37:13 UTC - in response to Message 1751266.  

bobby...

Trump means everything. You just have to understand exactly the Foundation of his statements. Not, on the surface, every contradictory statement. His contradictory statements are just a 'Means to an End'.

Trump is playing people, who believe as you, as fools. He is correct.

Parsing Trump is dangerous.

Dismissing Trump is dangerous.

Please tell me, what do you think I believe that allows Trump to play me?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1751309 - Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 16:50:39 UTC

The danger isn't Trump, it's the useless jobsworths within your system...

What criteria are Yankee Jobsworths using at OUR airports?
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Message 1751396 - Posted: 23 Dec 2015, 23:02:01 UTC - in response to Message 1751384.  

bobby...

Trump means everything. You just have to understand exactly the Foundation of his statements. Not, on the surface, every contradictory statement. His contradictory statements are just a 'Means to an End'.

Trump is playing people, who believe as you, as fools. He is correct.

Parsing Trump is dangerous.

Dismissing Trump is dangerous.

Please tell me, what do you think I believe that allows Trump to play me?

bobby...

Your Post noting all his 'contradictions'. Is meaningless. It will not stop his growing support.

His growing support (probably higher than the polls), is a reaction to his attackers:

The Political Establishment, International Industrial Capitalists, the Media Establishment, and the Left Wing/Progressives.

Interestingly... The above have different agendas. But all wish to keep and expand their Power. They care nothing about The People.

And The People do understand this.

Why would I believe that posting Trumps contradictory views to a small forum would have an impact on his support?

And please answer my earlier question. What do you think I believe that allows Trump to play me?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1751442 - Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 5:44:53 UTC
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"It is too disgusting"
Clinton arrived late back to her place on the debate stage after a commercial break when a toilet visit dragged on. Something that the controversial entrepreneur chose to spew bile during election rally in Grand Rapids, Michigan, Monday evening.
- What happened to her? I watched the debate and she disappeared. Where did she go? says Trump according to AP.
- I know where she was. It's disgusting, I do not want to talk about it.
And Donald Trump was not content to say it once. When the audience began shouting different words for visiting the toilet, he expressed once again his aversion to the toilet.
- No, it's too disgusting. Do not say it, it's disgusting.

Nice going Donald:(
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Message 1751515 - Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 15:48:03 UTC - in response to Message 1751511.  
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From what we hear about the USA over this side of the pond (which is to f-ing much in my view ) Hillary Clinton seams far more sensible person to be president that that pri#k Donald Trump , but our views don't matter coz the USA thinks it runs the world and speeks for everyone . And you wonder why America gets bad press everywhere and your political stance your hated by so many people .

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And the American people are so blinkered you can't see it or want to believe it .
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Message 1751530 - Posted: 24 Dec 2015, 17:15:09 UTC - in response to Message 1751518.  

From what we hear about the USA over this side of the pond (which is to f-ing much in my view ) Hillary Clinton seams far more sensible person to be president that that pri#k Donald Trump , but our views don't matter coz the USA thinks it runs the world and speeks for everyone . And you wonder why America gets bad press everywhere and your political stance your hated by so many people .

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And the American people are so blinkered you can't see it or want to believe it .

No understanding what is driving Trump support, and 'playing' into his dangerous hands.

It is a dismissal and revulsion, of the Democrat Establishment, Republican Establishment, Media Establishment, Left/Progressive, etc.

The Fraud and Liar Hillary, as others. Do not have the capacity to understand, or possibly don't care, what is happening.

Should any other Candidate understand, and address the Real Issues - Giving Real Solutions:

Then, and only then, will Trump not be a factor.

Note to Trumps attackers...

Trump is playing you, for the fools you are.

How is calling Trump's hands "dangerous" not an attack?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that ...

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Message 1752504 - Posted: 30 Dec 2015, 18:04:46 UTC - in response to Message 1750475.  

Clinton, however... has way too many legal issues involving her to be qualified to be POTUS, IMO.


She is an empty pant's suit. The fact that she didn't leave Bill was all I needed to disqualify her as anything but an opportunistic leach. I am far from being a prude; but Jeezsh !

You just insulted every woman who stayed for the sake of the family, or because she believed in the marriage vows she swore.

Good to see the double standards women have to live up to are alive and well. :/
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Message 1753252 - Posted: 2 Jan 2016, 17:01:48 UTC - in response to Message 1753206.  

His enemies: The Left, Progressives, Political Establishment, Media Establishment, etc., are clueless.

If you added up their 'effective' IQ's. It wouldn't reach the three figures.
So that is your opinion of Stan Pate? His lawyers may be in touch with you soon. :-)
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Message 1753457 - Posted: 3 Jan 2016, 4:20:55 UTC

http://www.smh.com.au/world/donald-trump-featured-in-new-jihadist-recruitment-video-20160102-glya1a.html

And this is the guy you want to be president . No wonder your being attacked all the time .

Keep it up and the world can be free off the worst country in the world good old U.S.A

No 1 for mass murders

No 1 for mass murder in Hospitals

No 1 for interfering in other country's

No 1 for the greediest people on the planet

And most likely country to cause the end of Humans in a all out nuke war

And to think you actually think you will win in a war against China , guess well all see real soon in the south China sea
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Message 1753466 - Posted: 3 Jan 2016, 5:05:37 UTC

The world needs the Donald!



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Just think free walls!
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