Win XP Pro x64 and EVGA Drivers.
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 TimeLord04  Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23 
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Exeter, my computer with the GTX-760, is on Driver 337.88. I'm also using Lunatics 0.43a. Will I gain anything by upgrading to Driver 340.52??? According to the EVGA site, that is the latest Driver that will work with XP Pro x64. (I was hoping to be able to get to 447.88; but, such is life.) TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693738 ·  |
Brent Norman    Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 
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M 750Ti came with a 340.52 install CD ... BOINC would not recognize the card with that version. 
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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Edit to original post... I meant that I was hoping to get to 347.88... (The last driver with OpenCL 1.1) FFS: (Fat Finger Syndrome.) ;-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Brent. If 340.52 gives that kind of trouble, I'll stay away from it. TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693753 · |
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woohoo Send message Joined: 30 Oct 13 Posts: 972 Credit: 165,671,404 RAC: 5
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I think if you install 347 from nvidia it will work ID: 1693761 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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I think if you install 347 from nvidia it will work EVGA asks which OS you are on. If I put in XP Pro x64, they only show 340.52 as the latest driver. Vista/7/8.x 347.88 is a different size driver. Even going back to 337.88, the Vista/7/8.x 337.88 is a bigger file than the XP Pro x64 337.88. The size difference indicates that there are differences. I don't want to crash XP and have to reinstall. I won't take that chance. If; however, the 340.52 driver had significant improvements over 337.88, I'd try it. But, if as Brent says, it isn't worth it and that BOINC didn't recognize his card because of it, I'll stay with what I know for fact works, and that's 337.88. TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693764 · |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380 
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Most vendor sites only give you the latest driver Go to the Nvidia site, select drivers, Gforce, then do a manual search for your operating system and card combination with the "show all drivers" option checked. When you get the list, dig through to find the driver you are looking for. Remember to do a clean installation. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1693773 · |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380
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The most likely outcome of trying to install a driver for the wrong OS is that the installer will refuse to install. The worst is the driver won't run and you'll have to find a way of getting a screen working in the most basic VGA mode and then installing the correct driver the hard way. Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1693774 · |
Wiggo  Send message Joined: 24 Jan 00 Posts: 34744 Credit: 261,360,520 RAC: 489 
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I have yet to see any "significant improvements" with any nvidia driver update, but I've seen plenty of "bad outcomes" with them which is why I seldom upgrade them. Cheers. ID: 1693809 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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OK - I went to the NVIDIA site... (Third site for drivers that I've been to, now...) I selected GeForce, and got to the GeForce Driver page. (Bookmarked it with the other two sites I already have...) I did find 347.88 for XP Pro x64 there, downloaded it. :-) Now, before I blindly install it... Are there any significant changes between 337.88 and 347.88??? Does it allow Lunatics to crunch faster??? (That kind of thing...) TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693937 · |
zoom3+1=4  Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65738 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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Exeter, my computer with the GTX-760, is on Driver 337.88. I'm also using Lunatics 0.43a. Will I gain anything by upgrading to Driver 340.52??? According to the EVGA site, that is the latest Driver that will work with XP Pro x64. (I was hoping to be able to get to 447.88; but, such is life.) TL looking on Nvidia's website, 353.06 supports all the way up to a GTX 960 card and supports the GTX 760 in Windows XP x64, Here is the Link. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's 
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jason_gee  Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0
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*for now* as long as you can crunch with Cuda 5.0 on 750/ti, then it'll be pretty much six or one half dozen the other, apart from any potential bug fixes that might be hiding in there. Most likely the biggest changes would come down the road, once I get my own and Petri33's improvements giving better validation performance (which is proving to be a pretty big mission), at that stage Cuda 6.5-7.0 support of the newer drivers (or 7.5 if released) will most likely give some small advantage, although it's hard to predict since the changes are more geared toward diractX12 and Windows 10, with its supposed lower latency mechanisms. "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 1693943 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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Exeter, my computer with the GTX-760, is on Driver 337.88. I'm also using Lunatics 0.43a. Will I gain anything by upgrading to Driver 340.52??? According to the EVGA site, that is the latest Driver that will work with XP Pro x64. (I was hoping to be able to get to 447.88; but, such is life.) Yes, but I'm on Lunatics... I can't utilize anything above 347.88 because of the change from OpenCL 1.1 to OpenCL 1.2... Besides that difference; are there any significant changes in 347.88 from 337.88, (like faster crunching), that would make me want to change drivers??? TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693944 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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*for now* as long as you can crunch with Cuda 5.0 on 750/ti, then it'll be pretty much six or one half dozen the other, apart from any potential bug fixes that might be hiding in there. Most likely the biggest changes would come down the road, once I get my own and Petri33's improvements giving better validation performance (which is proving to be a pretty big mission), at that stage Cuda 6.5-7.0 support of the newer drivers (or 7.5 if released) will most likely give some small advantage, although it's hard to predict since the changes are more geared toward diractX12 and Windows 10, with its supposed lower latency mechanisms. Jason, The 750 TI is on Prometheus... The 760 is on Exeter. Exeter has XP Pro x64. Are there any significant changes from 337.88 to 347.88 to make me want to change on Exeter??? TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693945 · |
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jason_gee Send message Joined: 24 Nov 06 Posts: 7489 Credit: 91,093,184 RAC: 0
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Not that I know of. If it were me, I'd sit tight with what works until either new applications require or would benefit from it, or you have some other application or game that needs or would work better because of it. A lot of fixes/releases of drivers will be targeted at preparing for Windows 10 and fixing badly programmed games. Can't have those benchmarks falling behind for the sales teams :) "Living by the wisdom of computer science doesn't sound so bad after all. And unlike most advice, it's backed up by proofs." -- Algorithms to live by: The computer science of human decisions. ID: 1693949 · |
Ulrich Metzner  Send message Joined: 3 Jul 02 Posts: 1256 Credit: 13,565,513 RAC: 13 
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If i were you, i would stick to version 337.88. I had major issues with the newer versions. I collected my observations in this thread: http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=77227&postid=1672992#1672992 Aloha, Uli ID: 1693965 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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Thanks Brent, Woohoo, Rob, Wiggo, Vic, and Jason. :-) I'll keep the downloaded file; but, won't install it, yet. I might be upgrading Exeter from XP Pro x64 to Win 7 Home Premium x 64; but, NOT for awhile yet. If I do upgrade Exeter to Win 7, then I'll reconsider installing the newer Win 7 driver at that point. May just stay with 337.88... We'll see. TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693966 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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If i were you, i would stick to version 337.88. I had major issues with the newer versions. Thanks, Ulrich. Yes, for now, I'm sticking with 337.88 on both computers. :-) TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1693968 · |
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rob smith Send message Joined: 7 Mar 03 Posts: 22190 Credit: 416,307,556 RAC: 380
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There is a fair chance that the version of 337.88 will not run properly under Windows 7 due to a pile of drive interface changes that came in with Vista. As far as I'm aware the version number that NV use is (almost) independent of the operating system, but there are different build of the driver for different operating systems.... Bob Smith Member of Seti PIPPS (Pluto is a Planet Protest Society) Somewhere in the (un)known Universe? ID: 1694004 · |
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TimeLord04 Send message Joined: 9 Mar 06 Posts: 21140 Credit: 33,933,039 RAC: 23
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There is a fair chance that the version of 337.88 will not run properly under Windows 7 due to a pile of drive interface changes that came in with Vista. As far as I'm aware the version number that NV use is (almost) independent of the operating system, but there are different build of the driver for different operating systems.... 337.88 has been running perfectly. The install file on Prometheus is clearly labelled "337.88 Vista/7/8.x". I've encountered no problems with it. MY question WAS about upgrading to 347.88... The install file for Exeter, (Win XP Pro x64), clearly states "337.88-desktop-winxp-64bit-english.exe", and is a SMALLER size than the 337.88 file for Prometheus. Since everyone seems to believe that upgrading the drivers I have beyond 337.88 will cause issues; or, just NOT give any benefit, I am staying with 337.88. TL TimeLord04 Have TARDIS, will travel... Come along K-9! Join Calm Chaos ID: 1694024 · |
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zoom3+1=4 Send message Joined: 30 Nov 03 Posts: 65738 Credit: 55,293,173 RAC: 49
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There is a fair chance that the version of 337.88 will not run properly under Windows 7 due to a pile of drive interface changes that came in with Vista. As far as I'm aware the version number that NV use is (almost) independent of the operating system, but there are different build of the driver for different operating systems.... If 337.88 works for you, then do stay there for as long as you see fit TL, good luck. The T1 Trust, PRR T1 Class 4-4-4-4 #5550, 1 of America's First HST's
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