السلام عليكم
Strange thread.
How many of the posters here are going to our Churches?
Perhaps a few are.
Well yesterday Ramadan started.
How many knows that?
Is it safe to worship Islam in mosques?

Is it safe to worship Islam in mosques?

Unfortunately, not as safe as it should be in the USA. Too damn many fools and and extremist xenophobes.

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On guns and race, America is a nation shackled to its past

"Race and guns are the birth defects of the American republic, their distorting presence visible in the US constitution itself. The very first article of that founding document spelled out its view that those “bound to service for a term of years” – slaves – would count as “three fifths of all other Persons”. Meanwhile, the second amendment enshrines “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms”.

The three-fifths rule was eventually discarded, but the legacy of slavery hangs heavy. In South Carolina the flag of the slave-owning Confederacy still flies. The church where those worshippers were gunned down was on Calhoun Street, named in honour of a luminary of 19th-century white supremacism. As for guns, a rule written in the age of the musket, designed to protect an infant republic from the return of King George’s redcoats, still holds – allowing a 21-year-old bent on provoking a race war easy, legal access to a weapon that lets him commit what, in a different context, would be called an act of terror."

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Reality Internet Personality

On guns and race, America is a nation shackled to its past

"Race and guns are the birth defects of the American republic, their distorting presence visible in the US constitution itself. The very first article of that founding document spelled out its view that those “bound to service for a term of years” – slaves – would count as “three fifths of all other Persons”. Meanwhile, the second amendment enshrines “the right of the people to keep and bear Arms”.

The three-fifths rule was eventually discarded, but the legacy of slavery hangs heavy. In South Carolina the flag of the slave-owning Confederacy still flies. The church where those worshippers were gunned down was on Calhoun Street, named in honour of a luminary of 19th-century white supremacism. As for guns, a rule written in the age of the musket, designed to protect an infant republic from the return of King George’s redcoats, still holds – allowing a 21-year-old bent on provoking a race war easy, legal access to a weapon that lets him commit what, in a different context, would be called an act of terror."

How unexpected, a British Journalist, taking such a position. Again, if the American people wish the present laws to change, they will make the change. To write that this murderous psychopath's possession of a firearm was 'legal' is both dangerous rhetoric meant to inflame and also yet to be proven as the case.

I would have hoped the good people of Charleston were allowed to at least bury their dead and mourn before the sound of knees smacking liberal foreheads became so loud.....

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

+1

Unfortunately, the dead can't talk.

John Stewart's view.

A racist manifesto attributed to the suspected murderer church in Charleston has emerged online. In the images seen Dylann Roof pose with a burning American flag. "I have no choice," reads the explanation of the massacre.

Nine black people died in the shooting incident in the church in the US state of South Carolina on Thursday. Shortly thereafter 21-year-old Dylann Roof was arrested , on suspicion of murder. He has admitted the crime and said that the aim was to start a race war!

Anders Breivik comes to mind.

Here is the Novorossia flag!

Some stars and what do get?

Great video.

"Keep Americans safe...

...so use unmanned drones to keep them safe in 5 countries.

Nice job USA.

How unexpected, a British Journalist, taking such a position. Again, if the American people wish the present laws to change, they will make the change.

Indeed. But until you do, the rest of the world will keep shaking its head at America. Why? Because America is supposed to be a developed nation, but every day we see more and more evidence to the contrary.

To write that this murderous psychopath's possession of a firearm was 'legal' is both dangerous rhetoric meant to inflame and also yet to be proven as the case.

It was legal. He bought the gun with money from his birthday and South Carolina gun laws are very easy. No permits, no registration or owner license required.

The judge who raised some eyebrows when he asked for sympathy for the family of the white man charged with killing nine African Americans at a historic church in Charleston, S.C., was previously reprimanded by state officials for using a racial slur.

:((((

America has a crazy control problem. His gun taken away, and then given back!
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/20/friend-dylann-roof-says-suspect-planned-attack-on-college-charleston/

A black friend of the white man accused of murdering nine people at a Charleston church says the suspect told him a week prior to the killings that he planned to shoot up a local college campus.

Christon Scriven, a drinking buddy of Dylann Roof, told The Associated Press Friday that he thought Roof’s statements were just drunken bluster. However, Scriven said that he was concerned enough that he and another friend, Joey Meek, went out to take his .45-caliber gun, hiding it in an air-conditioning vent of a mobile home until they all sobered up.

"He just said he was going to hurt a bunch of people" at the College of Charleston," said Scriven, 22.

"I said, 'What did you say? Why do you want to hurt those people in Charleston?'"

"He just said, 'In seven days. ... I have seven days.'"

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I only herd a bit about this on T.V and thought they where talking about the Texas thing but for F^&K sake when are you lot going to bloody grow up and realize IT's THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS

High school shot up because kid get parents guns now the parents give gun as present and this happens .

Obama was right when are you going to grow up as a nation and stop blaming everything else but the dam guns .

And yet you wonder why your country is declining on the world stage morally and ethically

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And the other side....

https://www.youtube.com/embed/pELwCqz2JfE?feature=player_detailpage

although few will watch with an open mind. Another piece of right wing propaganda.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

I only herd a bit about this on T.V and thought they where talking about the Texas thing but for F^&K sake when are you lot going to bloody grow up and realize IT's THE AVAILABILITY OF GUNS

High school shot up because kid get parents guns now the parents give gun as present and this happens .

Obama was right when are you going to grow up as a nation and stop blaming everything else but the dam guns .

And yet you wonder why your country is declining on the world stage morally and ethically

B.S. My guns are in a safe. Its the mentally unstable a##wipes roaming the streets at will who are the problem. If you have read the news you must have read that so far to of his freinds have stated he made statments he was going to do something. One was as far as 6 months ago. Plus his alleged website. Why would that not raise a red flag?
Get the nut jobs off the streets and keep them off.

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Old James

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Get the nut jobs off the streets and keep them off.

Or simply just not give them guns?

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Reality Internet Personality

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Get the nut jobs off the streets and keep them off.

Or simply just not give them guns?

How about we make a persons medical record availible for scrutiny when one buys a gun? Your crimimal history is allowed but not your medical history. WHY?

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Old James

Watched your vido . Very clever and well done .

Why do they quote stats that are 3 years old .

If the other states have gun control where are the guns coming from , wouldn't be Texas would it .
We had the same problem as you did go to anouther state to buy your guns and bring them back illegally . And why you can no longer do that .

And in Texas you don't have free speech as everyone is walking around so polite to scared to say anything .

And how ironic that the only time they can use N.Z and Australia is to compare the lowest place , the one place people know you can't do much without a bullet in the back , i'm not surprised .

And your so proud of the fact you don't have a death rate the same as Somalia , that's reaching for the bottom of the barrell to be proud of that .

And we are not a Socialist state either .

Offcause you can always make it sound good when you reach for the bottom of the barrel and omit other facts .

now i wonder if they compare mass killing where would you be in that list mmmmm.

We have not had one since Bryant killed 20-30 people back in the nineties and gun control was brought in .

Just a convenient fact omitted i see .And what about unemployment as i believe Texas is not the highest for unemployment , another interesting fact omitted .

Oh right other factors aren't the problem it's just the rest of the country are nutters and unemployment has no bearing on weather people travel to the states where you can buy gun without to much trouble either .

Then return to there own state and then kill someone

Unless your going to tell me Texas is the lowest state for selling of weapons ........

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Get the nut jobs off the streets and keep them off.

Or simply just not give them guns?

How about we make a persons medical record availible for scrutiny when one buys a gun? Your crimimal history is allowed but not your medical history. WHY?

Never be allowed to happen by those privacy loving democrats. But it is the first step they should take if they want gun control. But they don't. Guns in the hands of nut cases make for more people on social welfare program and hence more jobs they can hand out a favors for campaign contributions.

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Never be allowed to happen by those privacy loving democrats. But it is the first step they should take if they want gun control. But they don't. Guns in the hands of nut cases make for more people on social welfare program and hence more jobs they can hand out a favors for campaign contributions.

So you say it's ok to have big bro watching you . Otherwise how are they gona know who's the nutters if they have the right to privacy and the gov can't watch them .

Oh right yes it was the Freedom loving Republicans that brought in the Patriot act not the Dem's

Ok then i understand , no freedom because your to scared your going to get shot if someone loses there temper . No rights at all because of things like the Republicans wishing the Patriot Act was still there in all it's glory ok your for freedom so long as you don't actually have freedom and Big Bro is watching ok got it . Thanks for the clarification

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Get the nut jobs off the streets and keep them off.

Or simply just not give them guns?

How about we make a persons medical record availible for scrutiny when one buys a gun? Your crimimal history is allowed but not your medical history. WHY?

Because that makes no sense. Statistically, people with a mental illness are far more likely to be the victims of violence than the perpetrators. Furthermore, it has been proven time and time again that these people can get their hands on guns without actually buying them. Adam Lanza didn't buy any guns, he took the ones his mother had bought for herself. Other people get their guns as gifts from friends or family. No background check will prevent that.

Here is a good article about why we stop blaming this on mental illnesses.