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Message 1692536 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 7:29:46 UTC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uz1YUuE810

This video at post time has 54 views. I think Matt implies without some fund raising that NTPCkr is not going to run.

The whole reason we are doing this science is to put the results through NTPCkr I think.

I am up for donations or some kind of fund raiser. This needs more than 54 views to start. Lets spread the word on the Video and who has any ideas on how to raise funds. I have some resources available I need ideas on how to use them.

comments people and then ideas.
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Message 1692542 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 8:12:14 UTC

It's good to see they are still thinking about nitpicker.

I honestly do see the problem with it though - take one result and check it against every other result for that sky location. More results come in ... and it's just an exponential work load for the search.

Not to mention how many years it would take to process what has been crunched. For that, you better hijack the Berkley supercomputers :)
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Message 1692543 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 8:34:33 UTC

$30K seems doable to me.

I have started a few fund raisers in the past without big success.
Like i said earlier its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time.
Big difference.


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Message 1692554 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 9:15:55 UTC

What do you mean
its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time


Can they run the data with nitpicker at this time or do they not have the computer power to crunch it. $30K shouldn't be that difficult it is just taking the first few steps that is hard. I have video editing. HTML and graphic design of about 20 years behind me. I would be willing to donate my time and knowledge to an effort to get the equipment needed to run this program.

Who has the organizational skills to pull people together for a common cause. One small step for man. one leap for setikind. Message me here, PM me. we can do this. I need a shaker/mover guy. I can help with the resources.

Seriously maybe we should think about crowdfunding this. Razzoo, Causes, Buzzbnk just to name a few. those are strickly non profit crowdfunding but other options are available.

I am able to create the media for any project. We need a project leader. someone with organizational skills who is goal driven.

With the skill pool this site has I have to believe that person is out there. A lot us of have more time than money. we need to turn that into an asset.

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Message 1692633 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 13:26:24 UTC - in response to Message 1692543.  

$30K seems doable to me.

I have started a few fund raisers in the past without big success.
Like i said earlier its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time.
Big difference.

Spending $30K on a server might not be the largest priority at the moment. I don't know if they are still sending their "wish list" to the GPUUG donation list or not.
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Message 1692724 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 16:33:19 UTC - in response to Message 1692633.  

$30K seems doable to me.

I have started a few fund raisers in the past without big success.
Like i said earlier its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time.
Big difference.

Spending $30K on a server might not be the largest priority at the moment. I don't know if they are still sending their "wish list" to the GPUUG donation list or not.

And I'm not even sure whether they've transferred the $570.00 they've received in PayPal donations this year over to SETI. The last transfer listed was on 31 December 2014.
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Message 1692736 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 17:20:17 UTC

LOL at the comment "Why so much ram? Just load small sampling at a time and process that in a loop."

Apparently this person wants the near time persistency checker to run at anything but near time. Anyone want to explain to him how big the database is these days and that you don't just load that so fancifully in low amounts of RAM?
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Message 1692762 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 18:06:19 UTC

I see where GPUUG has been fundraising for the last several years. Maybe they can take on a task this large.

and If like Hal9000 said....

Spending $30K on a server might not be the largest priority at the moment.


After viewing the video and thinking NTPCkr is the reason for all the data. it seemed something needed to be done. I'll just keep crunching (hopefully the splitters will start splitting again.)

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Message 1692767 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 18:16:16 UTC - in response to Message 1692736.  

LOL at the comment "Why so much ram? Just load small sampling at a time and process that in a loop."

Apparently this person wants the near time persistency checker to run at anything but near time. Anyone want to explain to him how big the database is these days and that you don't just load that so fancifully in low amounts of RAM?

I think Matt is just talking about the specs for the db server. Not a new NTPCkr. Which I believe that person is likely thinking was meant.

IMO If they are thinking they need 512GB of RAM now. Then they should probably have a system designed to scale higher. At that point it could be an issue of how much memory can their db software actually use. As I recall it was mentioned they are looking into other db solutions as well. I imagine they would select new software before specing out a machine.
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Message 1692773 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 18:35:59 UTC - in response to Message 1692767.  

If you relook at the video,

Matt says they aren't even considering working on the NTPCKer until they get the database issues solved.

So that would seems to point to a low priority for them on this issue.

Once they get the database fixed and shrink it, they might be interested in looking at system.

That's what I got out of his talk

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Message 1692777 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 18:58:31 UTC

I also thought the specs and cost were for NTPCkr and hardware. After watching it closer Hal & Zal are correct All the specs mentioned and cost involved pertained to the DB server. They need to address this before they will address NTPCkr.

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Message 1692783 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 19:30:16 UTC - in response to Message 1692777.  

I also thought the specs and cost were for NTPCkr and hardware. After watching it closer Hal & Zal are correct All the specs mentioned and cost involved pertained to the DB server. They need to address this before they will address NTPCkr.

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The current NTPCkr was purchased around 2012-02. So it is one of the more modern systems they have.
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Message 1692800 - Posted: 17 Jun 2015, 20:32:25 UTC

The only reason the NTPCkr got this video is because I inquired as to its status on FB when they wanted to do a Q&A. I kinda think that the NTPCkr isn't a top priority at this point...they were just responding to my inquiry with this video. That's what I get out of it, anyhow. That being said, if $30-$40k were raised to get the NTPCkr up and running, I doubt they would complain :)
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