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NTPCkr Status - Video - Matt Lebofsky
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Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uz1YUuE810 This video at post time has 54 views. I think Matt implies without some fund raising that NTPCkr is not going to run. The whole reason we are doing this science is to put the results through NTPCkr I think. I am up for donations or some kind of fund raiser. This needs more than 54 views to start. Lets spread the word on the Video and who has any ideas on how to raise funds. I have some resources available I need ideas on how to use them. comments people and then ideas. Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
Brent Norman Send message Joined: 1 Dec 99 Posts: 2786 Credit: 685,657,289 RAC: 835 |
It's good to see they are still thinking about nitpicker. I honestly do see the problem with it though - take one result and check it against every other result for that sky location. More results come in ... and it's just an exponential work load for the search. Not to mention how many years it would take to process what has been crunched. For that, you better hijack the Berkley supercomputers :) |
Mike Send message Joined: 17 Feb 01 Posts: 34255 Credit: 79,922,639 RAC: 80 |
$30K seems doable to me. I have started a few fund raisers in the past without big success. Like i said earlier its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time. Big difference. With each crime and every kindness we birth our future. |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
What do you mean its not that data will not be analized, but NTpickr does it in real time Can they run the data with nitpicker at this time or do they not have the computer power to crunch it. $30K shouldn't be that difficult it is just taking the first few steps that is hard. I have video editing. HTML and graphic design of about 20 years behind me. I would be willing to donate my time and knowledge to an effort to get the equipment needed to run this program. Who has the organizational skills to pull people together for a common cause. One small step for man. one leap for setikind. Message me here, PM me. we can do this. I need a shaker/mover guy. I can help with the resources. Seriously maybe we should think about crowdfunding this. Razzoo, Causes, Buzzbnk just to name a few. those are strickly non profit crowdfunding but other options are available. I am able to create the media for any project. We need a project leader. someone with organizational skills who is goal driven. With the skill pool this site has I have to believe that person is out there. A lot us of have more time than money. we need to turn that into an asset. Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
$30K seems doable to me. Spending $30K on a server might not be the largest priority at the moment. I don't know if they are still sending their "wish list" to the GPUUG donation list or not. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Richard Haselgrove Send message Joined: 4 Jul 99 Posts: 14650 Credit: 200,643,578 RAC: 874 |
$30K seems doable to me. And I'm not even sure whether they've transferred the $570.00 they've received in PayPal donations this year over to SETI. The last transfer listed was on 31 December 2014. |
Jord Send message Joined: 9 Jun 99 Posts: 15184 Credit: 4,362,181 RAC: 3 |
LOL at the comment "Why so much ram? Just load small sampling at a time and process that in a loop." Apparently this person wants the near time persistency checker to run at anything but near time. Anyone want to explain to him how big the database is these days and that you don't just load that so fancifully in low amounts of RAM? |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
I see where GPUUG has been fundraising for the last several years. Maybe they can take on a task this large. and If like Hal9000 said.... Spending $30K on a server might not be the largest priority at the moment. After viewing the video and thinking NTPCkr is the reason for all the data. it seemed something needed to be done. I'll just keep crunching (hopefully the splitters will start splitting again.) Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
LOL at the comment "Why so much ram? Just load small sampling at a time and process that in a loop." I think Matt is just talking about the specs for the db server. Not a new NTPCkr. Which I believe that person is likely thinking was meant. IMO If they are thinking they need 512GB of RAM now. Then they should probably have a system designed to scale higher. At that point it could be an issue of how much memory can their db software actually use. As I recall it was mentioned they are looking into other db solutions as well. I imagine they would select new software before specing out a machine. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Zalster Send message Joined: 27 May 99 Posts: 5517 Credit: 528,817,460 RAC: 242 |
If you relook at the video, Matt says they aren't even considering working on the NTPCKer until they get the database issues solved. So that would seems to point to a low priority for them on this issue. Once they get the database fixed and shrink it, they might be interested in looking at system. That's what I got out of his talk Zalster |
Cactus Bob Send message Joined: 19 May 99 Posts: 209 Credit: 10,924,287 RAC: 29 |
I also thought the specs and cost were for NTPCkr and hardware. After watching it closer Hal & Zal are correct All the specs mentioned and cost involved pertained to the DB server. They need to address this before they will address NTPCkr. Bob Sometimes I wonder, what happened to all the people I gave directions to? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SETI@home classic workunits 4,321 SETI@home classic CPU time 22,169 hours |
HAL9000 Send message Joined: 11 Sep 99 Posts: 6534 Credit: 196,805,888 RAC: 57 |
I also thought the specs and cost were for NTPCkr and hardware. After watching it closer Hal & Zal are correct All the specs mentioned and cost involved pertained to the DB server. They need to address this before they will address NTPCkr. The current NTPCkr was purchased around 2012-02. So it is one of the more modern systems they have. SETI@home classic workunits: 93,865 CPU time: 863,447 hours Join the [url=http://tinyurl.com/8y46zvu]BP6/VP6 User Group[ |
Akio Send message Joined: 18 May 11 Posts: 375 Credit: 32,129,242 RAC: 0 |
The only reason the NTPCkr got this video is because I inquired as to its status on FB when they wanted to do a Q&A. I kinda think that the NTPCkr isn't a top priority at this point...they were just responding to my inquiry with this video. That's what I get out of it, anyhow. That being said, if $30-$40k were raised to get the NTPCkr up and running, I doubt they would complain :) |
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