The reaction of our 50 Sovereign States Military, and our Federal Military. Coupled with an Armed Citizenry: May be quite different than your Culture can imagine.

Clyde whatever you are smoking is not legal in Florida.

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Well, for one, our culture isn't so different from your culture. And second, cultures may differ, but people remain fundamentally the same. If troops get shot at by crazy gun nuts, no matter what culture I expect them to return fire.

Well, for one, our culture isn't so different from your culture. And second, cultures may differ, but people remain fundamentally the same. If troops get shot at by crazy gun nuts, no matter what culture I expect them to return fire.

Sure, but first they have to go back to their barracks and get some ammo!

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Well, for one, our culture isn't so different from your culture. And second, cultures may differ, but people remain fundamentally the same. If troops get shot at by crazy gun nuts, no matter what culture I expect them to return fire.

Sure, but first they have to go back to their barracks and get some ammo!

My father had ammo in our house.
I have some still somewhere.

We in Denver are currently opposing a proposed Fire Department regulation to limit possession of Ammunition to 10,000 rounds, not per household, per structure regardless of how it is stored. This would mean all the residents of a 100 unit apartment building where only 20 apartments contained 500 rounds each, would be subject to possible cancellation of their Fire Insurance policies due to the actions of 20% of those residents.

Interestingly the proposed regulation does not specify what would be an 'acceptable' amount of Ammo(probably ZERO to the gun banner crowd that thought this up).

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We in Denver are currently opposing a proposed Fire Department regulation to limit possession of Ammunition to 10,000 rounds, not per household, per structure regardless of how it is stored. This would mean all the residents of a 100 unit apartment building where only 20 apartments contained 500 rounds each, would be subject to possible cancellation of their Fire Insurance policies due to the actions of 20% of those residents.

Interestingly the proposed regulation does not specify what would be an 'acceptable' amount of Ammo(probably ZERO to the gun banner crowd that thought this up).

Thats a very strange regulation.
Let's say one person have perhaps 20,000 rounds and the neighbours has none.
Why should they cancel their Fire Insurance for all?
Makes no sense.

Makes no sense.

Exactly. A more sensible approach would be to require proper storage such as a powder locker or safe with sufficient fire resistance. I.E. all gun safes have a fire rating usually greater than 1 hour at 1100 degrees F.

I do not have 10,000 rounds but all I have that is not magazined for use is stored in such a safe.

By the way a joke in America: "What do you call a Texan with 10,000 rounds of Ammo?....under supplied."

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By the way a joke in America: "What do you call a Texan with 10,000 rounds of Ammo?....under supplied."

LOL
I thought I have a lot ammo. About 100 rounds of 9 mm I guess.
On the other hand when practising they tend to disminish.

I support 7 different calibers all of which I try to shoot on at least a monthly basis to 'keep my hand in'. When I go to the range I'll go through a box(50) of each caliber weapon I have with me. Most usually they are my personal carry which come in 3 flavors:

.380 for dress occasions (Bond carried a Walther PPK in his tux)
9mm for everyday carry.
.45 ACP also for everyday (my Springfield .45 is the same size as my Smith & Wesson 9mm so I prefer to carry the larger).

Point being when I go to the range I burn up around 200 rounds, so I buy in bulk when there is a sale.

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We in Denver are currently opposing a proposed Fire Department regulation to limit possession of Ammunition to 10,000 rounds,

Thirsty, shouldn't the fire dept be concerned with explosives?

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Do you have any understanding of this Continent, and its history?

Clyde yes I do and I was pointing out how ludicrous your statement is. That is from the perspective of a 69 yr old college graduate who did serve in the military for a short time and is now retired.

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Is suicide a sane person's response to being fired?
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/26/us/virginia-shooting-wdbj/

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I support 7 different calibers all of which I try to shoot on at least a monthly basis to 'keep my hand in'. When I go to the range I'll go through a box(50) of each caliber weapon I have with me. Most usually they are my personal carry which come in 3 flavors:

.380 for dress occasions (Bond carried a Walther PPK in his tux)
9mm for everyday carry.
.45 ACP also for everyday (my Springfield .45 is the same size as my Smith & Wesson 9mm so I prefer to carry the larger).

Point being when I go to the range I burn up around 200 rounds, so I buy in bulk when there is a sale.

You have no idea how pathetic that post is.
Guns for you are obviously a psycho-sexual experience.
200 rounds to blow your load, that is funny.
I'm sure that Georgo Zimmerman was just as much in love with guns as you are, and probably still thinks he done nothing wrong.
James Bond you're not, that's a "Hollywood Fantasy".

Pathetic??? Hardly.
He is a realistic man that believes in firearms as a means of self protection and is wise enough to wish to maintain his skill in using them, should the need arise.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

My perspective, may perhaps be from a greater life experience, than yours.

Clyde it may be from where you live, Florida, I live in Western Washington, which gives a very different perspective than even Eastern Washington. Heck we don't even have cockroaches here like you get to enjoy.

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The extravaganza of bold text appeared to suggest otherwise.

You misinterpret passion as issues.

I'm interested. I get why the right to bear arms was so cherished to begin with. Wherever colonial Britain stuck her snout - scars abound. I suspect the Africa thread will highlight a few. But you've been electing your own for long enough, and you're more armed than ever. Which leaves your civil war.

Other nations disarmed on cessation of hostilities. Why not America?

This entire part of your post indicates your misunderstanding or misinterpretation of the reason for the 2nd Amendment. The Right to keep and bear arms is not just for personal protection or as deterrent to invasion by a foreign power, it was intended by the authors as insurance against a tyrannical threat from within as well. A disarmed population is the first step to total control. Many examples exist in history I will not belabor them. I don't understand what your comment on the Civil War was about.

If you don't mind another question? You believe gun ownership makes America a safer place. Do you advocate that the rest of the world follows your example?

I really don't know where this comes from. No other government on earth that I am aware of, Constitutionally guarantees it's citizens the right to keep and bear arms. Speaking for myself I really don't care what the rest of the world does or does not want in the way of personal firearms. What I do have a BIG problem with is other countries trying to change our guaranteed rights(UN Small Arms Treaty). That is what 1776 was all about in the first place.

Logically, it follows that it is ok for the rest of the world to be susceptible to their own threats from within. Only we should guarantee not being susceptible. And living in a world where some or all the rest of the world is enslaved by their tyrannical governments from within would be ... ?

And living in a world where some or all the rest of the world is enslaved by their tyrannical governments from within would be ... ?

Something the true American Patriot shall never allow to happen ever again.
We choose to remain at the ready should political events ever require us to take up arms and defend our freedoms on our domestic soil, if need be.
That is prudent, and what the founding fathers intended.

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"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." Alan Dean Foster

And living in a world where some or all the rest of the world is enslaved by their tyrannical governments from within would be ... ?

Something the true American Patriot shall never allow to happen ever again.
We choose to remain at the ready should political events ever require us to take up arms and defend our freedoms on our domestic soil, if need be.
That is prudent, and what the founding fathers intended.

So they take it from us in small increments. They trade the promise of safety for a tiny bit of freedom.
The license plate reader at every corner, to catch the criminals and the terrorists.
Like the frog put in the cold pot and the fire is started.
Yes we are safe in our cage, but we aren't free.

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So they take it from us in small increments. They trade the promise of safety for a tiny bit of freedom.
The license plate reader at every corner, to catch the criminals and the terrorists.
Like the frog put in the cold pot and the fire is started.
Yes we are safe in our cage, but we aren't free.

Which makes it all the more important to claw back those liberties and defend against further usurpation of our Constitutional rights, and further dilution of that document. The only thing that scares a Politician worse than the 2nd Amendment is the 1st.

Logically, it follows that it is ok for the rest of the world to be susceptible to their own threats from within.

That is a stupid argument. Logically it follows? By whose logic, yours? It is not up to the people of the US what form of government people in another country choose unless they ask for our help or become a threat to us. It IS on the other hand the business of the American citizenry, and nobody else, to determine our own course.

If a people are sufficiently dissatisfied they will overthrow the perceived oppressors (most recently the Arab Spring). What succeeds that oppressive regime depends on the strength and resolve of the people. Sometimes it's a worse oppressor (The Islamic Brotherhood), or total chaos (as in Libya), when a vacuum is created it is filled, sometimes with evil such as ISIS (or are you defending their right to exist?, just using your own tactic of extrapolation to the absurd).

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Logically, it follows that it is ok for the rest of the world to be susceptible to their own threats from within.

That is a stupid argument. Logically it follows? By whose logic, yours? It is not up to the people of the US what form of government people in another country choose unless they ask for our help or become a threat to us. It IS on the other hand the business of the American citizenry, and nobody else, to determine our own course.

I don't see Gary or Mark arguing with it.
But I can see you did not understand.
You said you do not care what other countries do regarding an equivalent to a 2nd Amendment.
So, some or many countries may (and have) fallen to despots.
Is it so hard for you to understand, regardless of how the US responds, it does make our existence more difficult? Interfere or don't interfere. Cold War or no, we are affected.

If a people are sufficiently dissatisfied they will overthrow the perceived oppressors (most recently the Arab Spring). What succeeds that oppressive regime depends on the strength and resolve of the people. Sometimes it's a worse oppressor (The Islamic Brotherhood), or total chaos (as in Libya), when a vacuum is created it is filled, sometimes with evil such as ISIS (or are you defending their right to exist?, just using your own tactic of extrapolation to the absurd).

You've gone way beyond. I am not defending their right to exist.
Prior to your parenthetical comment, we agreed on that paragraph. But, I'm sure that ... .

Clyde I was not commenting on the quantity of your life experiences just pointing out that they are different, you are the one who is asserting that yours are of a greater quality. Who appointed you to be the one to judge the quality of other peoples experiences?

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