Thank you , you have just proved my point objections objections objections .

No solutions .

It's not that hard if it was designed for the military then it's a military weapon simple but no just confuse object and nothing changes .I put it to you also many of those so called semi auto can be modified very easerly to be Full automatic.

And please i owned guns so i know you can do it .

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Thank you , you have just proved my point objections objections objections .

No solutions .

It's not that hard if it was designed for the military then it's a military weapon simple but no just confuse object and nothing changes .I put it to you also many of those so called semi auto can be modified very easerly to be Full automatic.

And please i owned guns so i know you can do it .

Absolutely it can be done, but when converted it becomes illegal to own so what's the point? If an illegal fully automatic AK-47 can be bought on the black market for $300 why would you spend $800 on an AR-15 and then convert it?

That's the same argument BATFE and Eric Holder used in the Mexican gun running sting. Why would the Mexican drug lords buy Semi Automatic rifles in the US then smuggle them into Mexico when they can buy fully Automatic Kalashnikovs from Guatemala, Honduras and Venezuela for 1/3 the price and not have to deal with getting it over the American border?

As to solutions, the majority of Americans don't feel there is a problem with gun ownership, and as it's our country it's nobody else's business to lecture us for any reason other than a desire to control someone else. If enough of the population feel they need to change the law, they will. That's the way it works, majority rule.

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The US have a weird gun control IMO.
There are countries in World that have more guns per capita then the US.
Sweden:) Canada. Finland has 53 weapons per hundred person!
And it has nothing to do with political orientations...

I would say you have to put the problem down to the weird gun control in the US. The country has a ridiculous amount of shootings compared to other western countries.

If it isn't the gun laws, then there must be something wrong with Americans and they are a particularly murderous and violent people. I find that hard to believe and would rather think the problem is with the gun laws.

Most of the world, until recently, has had far more censorship of violence on TV and movies than the USA, especially for children's programming. Other countries also don't allow corporal punishment of children. Perhaps it isn't gun laws. Of course the fact that certified crazies are allowed to roam the streets here may account for some fraction of that.

So you are still suggesting that Americans are more violent that other people?

By more violent, do you mean more capable of violence, more prone to violence, or express more violence?

As the rest of the world gets to see more and more of the uncensored (non-DRM restricted) for their country "entertainment" perhaps we will have an answer for those questions.

Humans are humans, culture and circumstances makes the difference in behavior. Of course, Americans are barbarians and the world would do well not to forget it before they make us mad.

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If enough of the population feel they need to change the law, they will. That's the way it works, majority rule.

So 51% of America have joined the NRA and you can prove those of you that want the guns are in the majority.

Then prove it by having a vote on changing the 4th or the 2nd .

As for the Mecican b/s again you just didn't get it they want the AUTOMATIC ASSAULT RIFLES off the streets the NRA are just to powerful and not in the majority .

It's not how many have joined the NRA it's who has and it has the right people in power who are in a position to abuse that power and that is exactly what we see.

So much for being about Freedom.

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Any member of Congress has the ability to sponsor a bill to change or enact any law they feel needs changing or enacting. There are less than 4 million members of the NRA, so it's not numbers that make up whatever power you see. What does make up that power is the many other millions of citizens who see the truth in what they say and who exercise their rights under the Constitution including the 2nd Amendment.

Every time gun control bills are defeated the Bloombergs of the left call it a subversion by the NRA. As long as that continues, the NRA is doing it's job. I don't know if you are aware that one of the purposes for the formation of the NRA in the 1870's was to champion the right of Blacks to own and possess firearms after the Civil War for their protection.

I am proud to be a member of the NRA and I will continue to support their efforts to defend the 2nd Amendment as well as the 1st. The only thing a despot fears worse than the 2nd Amendment is the 1st.

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The the NRA like a lot of groups have lost there way and are becoming to far to one side .

No point putting up bills that are worded wrong and are delberatly sabbotaged .

Answer me this how many of the NRA members are in Congress ? How many are in high positions in the government and make the final decisions ?


example : police chiefs , judges , in the A.F.T

key areas where they can throw a spanner in the works .

If you answer none the i'll belieave you the NRA are protecting your rights but i know there are enough to stuff things up so you have no credibility and are using lie's and deceit to keep the status quo.

As for you saying the people have voted by buying guns .
Well i'm totally against gun but if i ever did come to your country one of the first things i would do is try to get a gun to protect myself as your country is just to dangerous .

Another distortion of facts and behaviour . when you live in a place where people are walking around with guns even if your against them you will buy one so that comment is also B/S

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Any member of Congress has the ability to sponsor a bill to change or enact any law they feel needs changing or enacting. There are less than 4 million members of the NRA, so it's not numbers that make up whatever power you see. What does make up that power is the many other millions of citizens who see the truth in what they say and who exercise their rights under the Constitution including the 2nd Amendment.

Every time gun control bills are defeated the Bloombergs of the left call it a subversion by the NRA. As long as that continues, the NRA is doing it's job. I don't know if you are aware that one of the purposes for the formation of the NRA in the 1870's was to champion the right of Blacks to own and possess firearms after the Civil War for their protection.

I am proud to be a member of the NRA and I will continue to support their efforts to defend the 2nd Amendment as well as the 1st. The only thing a despot fears worse than the 2nd Amendment is the 1st.

Gironwas recalled, but Rivera did not make it mich more than 13 months, being beaten by Garcia. While Morse was also recalled, his replacement was of the same party.

Well i'm totally against gun but if i ever did come to your country one of the first things i would do is try to get a gun to protect myself as your country is just to dangerous .

EXACTLY!

Passing laws to prevent law abiding citizens from owning a firearm for protection DOES NOT AFFECT those who own illegal guns. They only prevent those who choose to protect themselves from those illegal guns from doing so.

Criminals are criminals because they IGNORE laws.

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I was just thinking where are you from so i say bet he's from Texas or Colorado and then i searched for where wheat ridge was ...

I'm smarter than the average bear i was right Colorado

I used to think Colorado was a good place what with John Denver but i have come to know it as something else .

So i'll leave you to your red neck attitude and call it a day in this thread

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I'm sorry to hear you dis-respect a beautiful place because you disagree with the views of one of it's residents. Yes, I'm from Wheat Ridge. I've stated that in my bio and don't know why you feel that is germane to the discussion. So goodnight.

And my 'neck' is pink.[edit] Or maybe Red, White and Blue.......

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Giron was recalled, but Rivera did not make it mich more than 13 months, being beaten by Garcia. While Morse was also recalled, his replacement was of the same party.

The beautiful part about the Giron recall was that it was a true grass roots movement. Very little funding and done out of a garage. That's TRUE democracy at work. I worked for the Hudak recall effort which was rendered moot by her 'abdication' to avoid embarrassment.

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A Principal Cause: Media Violence

More at:http://www.indiana.edu/~cspc/ressenate.htm

You are joking right? That report is utter nonsense. Heavy metal causes violence? Playing games causes violence?

You know that study after study after study show that games, and to a greater degree the media does not cause violence right?

Perhaps not cite a study from 1999.

I shoot because I like to hear the bang!

And if you haven't heard it's the North American Rational Anarchists now ...... ";D

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Can't let you get away with that one .gees

ok for the locals to carry a gun but if i'm just on a holiday i can't protect myself ???

A crimminal ?? I Have never done any time in jail how dare you say i'm a crim

Ok your haf right i have been arrested but only mister meaner's still can't i aquire a gun for my protection ??

or is that part of the Red neck attitude all outsiders are very bad criminals ?

Yes your state is a beuitiful place just the people there are a bit to country hick for me and i'm a country boy just not that red neck thou

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Can let you get away with that one .gees

ok for the locals to carry a gun but if i'm just on a holiday i can't protect myself ???

That sounds like a wonderful business opportunity. Guns for hire, you get one at the airport, and carry it around for as long as you are in the states, so you can defend yourself.

Thank you Glenn, you obviously didn't under stand a word I said.

Nighty night.

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And final post i take it the NRA will be against changing the censorship rules right as that will infringe on the constitution .

Nope there not part of the problem are there . They just oppose every measure to try a bring a stop to the deaths or sabbotage it .

well agree to police checks so long as it's only in the state your applying in .

Of course they know that won't work . Live in another state get arrested for domestic voilence and then go across the border where you don't have a record get your licence and buy your weapons then take them back to your home state .

Then they can say LOOK GUN CONTROL DOESN"T WORK WE ALREADY HAVE POLICE CHECKS AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED

Like i said come on suckers buy them guns make me some money .

Doesn't sound like a very United States of America. Surely it's not beyond the wit of government to establish a national register for that purpose.

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Life on earth is the global equivalent of not storing things in the fridge.

Doesn't sound like a very United States of America. Surely it's not beyond the wit of government to establish a national register for that purpose.

That is one of the core issues. As 50 separate States we are more like the EU in makeup than England or other countries with a strong central government. The other issue is an innate distrust of the Federal Government and their demonstrated willingness to lie to the people.

It is felt by a lot of people that a national register of firearms is a duplication of effort not needed as the records of who bought a firearm is already required to be kept by the seller and the manufacturer. It is further felt that such a registration would be the first place a regime, turning on it's own people, would start to make sure there was no resistance to their plans. And preventing confiscation was the original reason for the 2nd Amendment.

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"Sour Grapes make a bitter Whine." <(0)>

Cold Dead Hand.
https://youtu.be/bOJQFNOQqCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0Wn3Eey6dY

A Principal Cause: Media Violence

More at:http://www.indiana.edu/~cspc/ressenate.htm

You are joking right? That report is utter nonsense. Heavy metal causes violence? Playing games causes violence?

You know that study after study after study show that games, and to a greater degree the media does not cause violence right?

Perhaps not cite a study from 1999.

True.

Lead poisoning is actually a more likely factor.

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