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Message 1690464 - Posted: 12 Jun 2015, 12:30:09 UTC
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The successor of Curiosity, to be launched in the year 2020:

http://www.astrobio.net/news-exclusive/curiositys-successor-mars-2020-will-continue-search-habitability/

Mars 2020, as it’s currently called, will have improved instruments over Curiosity. The new rover is heavily based on the Curiosity design, and as with its predecessor it will be able to search for habitable environments.

Mars 2020 would also look directly for evidence of life, something Curiosity was not designed to do.

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Message 1690517 - Posted: 12 Jun 2015, 15:52:32 UTC
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Another NASA project that would follow in Curiosity's footsteps and help in future Mars explorations is called LDSD (low density supersonic decelerator)

https://blogs.nasa.gov/ldsd/2015/06/08/ldsd-flight-complete-nasa-to-hold-briefing-to-discuss-status-of-flying-saucer-test/

http://ssdl.gatech.edu/papers/conferencePapers/IEEE-2008-1419.pdf
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Message 1690518 - Posted: 12 Jun 2015, 15:57:14 UTC - in response to Message 1690517.  

It has already failed twice since the parachute has broken. I followed it on NASA TV both times.
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Message 1690740 - Posted: 13 Jun 2015, 8:19:42 UTC - in response to Message 1690518.  
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NASA will launch the InSight stationary lander to Mars on March 2016 accompanied by 6 Cubesat relay satellites on a United Launch Alliance Atlas V launcher from Vandenberg AFB in California.
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Message 1690746 - Posted: 13 Jun 2015, 9:11:05 UTC

One thing is for sure, Mars will not be as easy as the moon was .....
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Message 1690757 - Posted: 13 Jun 2015, 10:38:04 UTC - in response to Message 1690746.  

NASA is going ahead step by step, with no hurry. There is not a political race to land a man on Mars, as it was on the Moon.
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Message 1691102 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 6:56:00 UTC

The exploration of Mars isn't highest priority anymore in the Space program. It does not wake up our imagination anymore as it used to do in HG Wells' time, that's a fact.
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Message 1691104 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 6:58:17 UTC - in response to Message 1691102.  

The exploration of Mars isn't highest priority anymore in the Space program. It does not wake up our imagination anymore as it used to do in HG Wells' time, that's a fact.

That's better. No phantasy, more science. This is what NASA is doing.
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Message 1691106 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 7:10:07 UTC - in response to Message 1691104.  

The exploration of Mars isn't highest priority anymore in the Space program. It does not wake up our imagination anymore as it used to do in HG Wells' time, that's a fact.

That's better. No phantasy, more science. This is what NASA is doing.
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Science that costs a lot of money I should say. The costs of the JWST project alone, are estimated at $8 billion. If only Seti had that kind of money..
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Message 1691123 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 9:16:36 UTC - in response to Message 1691106.  
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Big Science is always costly. The ITER nuclear fusion project now has a French chief, who estimates its costs to about seven billion euros but it is still in a preliminary phase, and it will cost more. But nobody will take the responsibility for terminating it, it is just too big. The IGNITOR project led by Bruno Coppi at the Kurcatov Institute in Moscow should cost about a tenth of ITER. A more reasonable effort.
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Message 1691146 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 12:54:54 UTC - in response to Message 1691123.  

IGNITOR is the Italian name for a nuclear research project of magnetic confinement fusion, developed by ENEA Laboratories in Frascati.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IGNITOR

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Message 1691160 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 13:33:09 UTC
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Science that costs a lot of money I should say. The costs of the JWST project alone, are estimated at $8 billion. If only Seti had that kind of money..

Well exactly, I have to agree! But unless Seti has it's own dish where it can point it where it wants, we have to piggyback off others data. Probably billions would be required. Lovely thought though :-)
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Message 1691278 - Posted: 14 Jun 2015, 18:21:39 UTC - in response to Message 1691160.  
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Science that costs a lot of money I should say. The costs of the JWST project alone, are estimated at $8 billion. If only Seti had that kind of money..

Well exactly, I have to agree! But unless Seti has it's own dish where it can point it where it wants, we have to piggyback off others data. Probably billions would be required. Lovely thought though :-)


It would be great if we were to have the Allen Array again..
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Message 1691545 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 8:39:30 UTC

I'm not sure we ever got any data from it. In any case Seti@Home & berkeley have divorced from it so we won't be getting any more anyway.

The Allen Telescope Array, formerly known as the One Hectare Telescope is a radio telescope array dedicated to astronomical observations and a simultaneous Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence (SETI). The array is situated at the Hat Creek Radio Observatory, 290 miles (470 km) northeast of San Francisco, California.

Originally developed as a joint effort between the SETI Institute and the Radio Astronomy Laboratory at the University of California, Berkeley, with funds obtained from an initial US$11.5 million donation by the Paul G. Allen Family Foundation The project completed the first phase of construction and become operational on 11 October 2007 with 42 antennas (ATA-42), after Paul Allen (co-founder of Microsoft) pledged an additional $13.5 million to support the construction of the first and second phases.

Though overall Allen has contributed more than $30 million to the project, the project has not succeeding in building the 350 six metre (19.7 feet) dishes originally conceived, and suffered an operational hiatus due to funding shortfalls between April and August 2011. Subsequently, UC Berkeley exited the project, completing divestment in April 2012. The facility is now managed by SRI International (formerly Stanford Research Institute), an independent, nonprofit research institute.

In August 2014 the installation was threatened by a forest fire in the area and was briefly forced to shut down, but ultimately emerged largely unscathed.
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Message 1691552 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 9:01:15 UTC - in response to Message 1691545.  
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The Allen array was from a competing group at Berkley. They didn't use distributed computing.

Does anyone have any info on whether or not Seti@home can take data from the Atacama array in Chile.
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Message 1691554 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 9:05:06 UTC - in response to Message 1691552.  

The Allen array was from a competing group at Berkley. They didn't use distributed computing.

Does anyone have any info on whether or not Seti@home can take data from the Atacama array in Chile.


But it was from Seti? Otherwise I have been misinformed by the Belgian media.
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Message 1691565 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 9:48:02 UTC

I was hoping for a sample return as part of the next robotic mission.
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Message 1691566 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 9:49:27 UTC - in response to Message 1690518.  

It has already failed twice since the parachute has broken. I followed it on NASA TV both times.
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Maybe they should really think about sending 3 of those new Opportunity based rovers to Mars in a single spacecraft with 3 landing devices. Also, early Mars orbit separation could land them on different portions of Mars. But also that plan also has a back-up if some of the parachutes decide not to open (again).

We really need to start exploring more of our Solar system in the next years with advanced robotics.

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Message 1691594 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 10:56:09 UTC
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The Allen array was from a competing group at Berkley. They didn't use distributed computing.

But it was from Seti? Otherwise I have been misinformed by the Belgian media.

There are two similar labs in UCL Berkeley,

Originally developed as a joint effort between the SETI Institute and the Radio Astronomy Laboratory at the University of California, Berkeley,

The Radio Astronomy Lab is separate from the Space Sciences Lab where Seti@Home is based, although of course they are linked in their work. In fact Seti@home Chief Scientist Dan Werthimer is on the staff of the RAL. Their addy is 601 Campbell, SSC is at 7 Gauss Way.

The media always get the Seti Institute and Seti@Home mixed up. UCB have given up trying to educate them ....
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Message 1691888 - Posted: 15 Jun 2015, 22:42:09 UTC - in response to Message 1691594.  

After 8 months on 'Mars', crew missed wind, peaches

(NEWSER) – After eight months almost completely confined to a dome on the slopes of a Hawaiian volcano, six scientists are enjoying things like the feel of wind on their skin and non-freeze-dried food like watermelon, peaches, and croissants—and being able to shower for longer than six minutes a week. The volunteers, five Americans and one Canadian ranging in age from 26 to 39 and chosen for their low-drama personalities, were in the 1,000-square-foot dome as part of a closely monitored NASA experiment to see how people would get along with each other and resolve conflicts during long space missions, the Honolulu Star-Advertiserreports. They were 8,000 feet up on Mauna Loa, which they pretended was Mars.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/15/mars-crew-hawaii-missed-wind-fruit/71243580/
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