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Message 1689250 - Posted: 8 Jun 2015, 19:23:07 UTC

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Seems like it takes an awful lot, in a small area to just melt a car. Any Thermite paint would have had to been applied at the construction, and be almost a foot think.

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Message 1689252 - Posted: 8 Jun 2015, 19:31:14 UTC

In actuality, building 7 was just physics. Each deck that collapsed added weight, and inertia to the moving system, and the support beams couldn't handle it.

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Message 1689281 - Posted: 8 Jun 2015, 22:05:05 UTC - in response to Message 1689252.  

In actuality, building 7 was just physics. Each deck that collapsed added weight, and inertia to the moving system, and the support beams couldn't handle it.

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Weight? No. After all when it was standing still all the weight was there. So that is the mass component. Inertia, yes. As the floor above fell it picked up kinetic energy so when it met resistance of the floor below the supports could not handle it and they snap and the building pancakes. Happens in earthquakes as well.

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Message 1689328 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015, 1:25:55 UTC

Correct.

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Message 1689397 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015, 5:58:59 UTC - in response to Message 1689250.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPAYZMzGMwQ

Seems like it takes an awful lot, in a small area to just melt a car. Any Thermite paint would have had to been applied at the construction, and be almost a foot think.

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Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.
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Message 1689402 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015, 6:32:17 UTC - in response to Message 1689397.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPAYZMzGMwQ

Seems like it takes an awful lot, in a small area to just melt a car. Any Thermite paint would have had to been applied at the construction, and be almost a foot think.

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Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.
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Message 1689408 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015, 6:50:08 UTC - in response to Message 1689402.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?
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Message 1689416 - Posted: 9 Jun 2015, 7:26:09 UTC - in response to Message 1689408.  
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Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Not I:)
http://www.debunking911.com/thermite.htm
http://www.debunking911.com/moltensteel.htm
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Message 1689687 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 7:29:49 UTC - in response to Message 1689408.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.
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Message 1689816 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 15:34:49 UTC - in response to Message 1689687.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

Chemical traces are physical evidences.
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Message 1689823 - Posted: 10 Jun 2015, 15:45:49 UTC - in response to Message 1689816.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

Chemical traces are physical evidences.


And here I was starting to doubt myself. I was worried chemical traces might be supernatural!
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Message 1690035 - Posted: 11 Jun 2015, 6:58:33 UTC - in response to Message 1689823.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

Chemical traces are physical evidences.


And here I was starting to doubt myself. I was worried chemical traces might be supernatural!

Ok have your fun at my expense. What I should have stated and you both well know it Was.
Your eyes can tell the differance in steel that has been cut, burned or sheared. But your nose might not be able to detect what explosive, acid, And or whatever was used. But a chemical test should.
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Message 1690175 - Posted: 11 Jun 2015, 17:03:55 UTC - in response to Message 1690035.  

Steve, Even if they did use foot thick paint would not some trace of thermite have been left behind? A chemical by product that would have said Thermite was used.
I know fire investigators can find traces of any liguid fuel that was used. Surely thermite would leave a signature.

Thermite is a mixture of aluminium powder and iron oxide.
There are already lot of those metals in a building.
Especially lots of aluminium where the plane chrashed.

Can't you still tell the difference between beams that have been cut in half by thermite and beams that have simply snapped under the stress caused by the fires and falling debris?

Im asking about left over chemical traces. Not physical eveidence.

Chemical traces are physical evidences.


And here I was starting to doubt myself. I was worried chemical traces might be supernatural!

Ok have your fun at my expense. What I should have stated and you both well know it Was.
Your eyes can tell the differance in steel that has been cut, burned or sheared. But your nose might not be able to detect what explosive, acid, And or whatever was used. But a chemical test should.


I was indeed being silly, but I figured you'd handle it ok.
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Message 1690415 - Posted: 12 Jun 2015, 7:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 1690035.  

Your eyes can tell the differance in steel that has been cut, burned or sheared.


Yes you can

If Thermite was used there would be slag residue and a lot of it , pieces would be still attached to the beams

C4 different story
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