http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/11609406/The-car-of-the-future-is-the-most-powerful-computer-you-will-ever-own.html

This could be really cool!

Steve

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There was a show I was watching about cars on Discovery ~15ish years ago. Where they made a statement along the lines of "Computers are becoming an important part of how cars work & one day you will measure your cars performance in gigaflops instead of horsepower".
Seems they were not really that far off of the mark.

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Most car computers are still closed systems, crunching with a car might never be possible, nvidia or not..

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Most car computers are still closed systems, crunching with a car might never be possible, nvidia or not..

Ten years ago that was true, but between smartphone and USB connectivity and built-in OnStar-type cell systems, a very large and growing number of car networks are not closed. Bluetooth, for instance, is standard in almost all new cars, although crunching is not.

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Most car computers are still closed systems, crunching with a car might never be possible, nvidia or not..

Ten years ago that was true, but between smartphone and USB connectivity and built-in OnStar-type cell systems, a very large and growing number of car networks are not closed. Bluetooth, for instance, is standard in almost all new cars, although crunching is not.

Well since I didn't mention a network, a computer system in a car doesn't need to have a network to be a computer, I used a few computers that were programmable that did not have what We today would consider a network, still the cpu I'd think is still closed, usb/bluetooth connections I think just go to the stereos, not to something that is meant to manage the cars engine and transmission for emission purposes, and not for crunching. I doubt the cars cpu will ever be allowed to crunch, since smog emissions are heavily regulated, unless you like dirty air, anything that interfaces with the car's cpu, needs to meet CARB approval, that's the California Air Resources Board, cause that deals with emissions controls. Now Stereos are a different animal altogether, though I doubt you'll see any crunching there either, since Car Stereos are also regulated, by the FCC(the Federal Communications Commission). And even if you could crunch with a cars computer, who in the automotive world is going to let you know how to do that? If that is even possible to do and it may not be. This was an example of cars in California and more than a few states use CA as their standard for smog equipment.

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maybe someone in Radiator Springs? :D

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Most car computers are still closed systems, crunching with a car might never be possible, nvidia or not..

Ten years ago that was true, but between smartphone and USB connectivity and built-in OnStar-type cell systems, a very large and growing number of car networks are not closed. Bluetooth, for instance, is standard in almost all new cars, although crunching is not.

Well since I didn't mention a network, a computer system in a car doesn't need to have a network to be a computer, I used a few computers that were programmable that did not have what We today would consider a network, still the cpu I'd think is still closed, usb/bluetooth connections I think just go to the stereos, not to something that is meant to manage the cars engine and transmission for emission purposes, and not for crunching. I doubt the cars cpu will ever be allowed to crunch, since smog emissions are heavily regulated, unless you like dirty air, anything that interfaces with the car's cpu, needs to meet CARB approval, that's the California Air Resources Board, cause that deals with emissions controls. Now Stereos are a different animal altogether, though I doubt you'll see any crunching there either, since Car Stereos are also regulated, by the FCC(the Federal Communications Commission). And even if you could crunch with a cars computer, who in the automotive world is going to let you know how to do that? If that is even possible to do and it may not be. This was an example of cars in California and more than a few states use CA as their standard for smog equipment.

Since I drive VWs I have a tool from http://www.ross-tech.com/ that allows me to change numerous things in my car. Also it is quite a bit more than a simple ODB code reader. While I can change engine parameters to run outside of federal emissions guidelines. I would need to change them back for state inspection & I don't feel the need to do anything like that.
I do adjust several other non engine related settings. Some of which are just enabling features that are not offered in the US. Like opening/closing the windows/sunroof with the key fob or having the option to disable the daytime running lights from the menu.

As you mentioned. I imagine the computer we would be most interested in would be the cars infotainment system rather than the systems that manage important functions such as the engine. I would hazard a guess there are a few people out there that have looked into getting into the infotainment system to have it to their bidding. Once we start getting ones that basically run Android or something something that has the ability to install apps it will probably just be a matter of click, click, install.
Even if the factory systems are not usable right now automotive PCs have been around for more than a decade. In some cases you can have a windows PC in your dash replacing the factory system, or use the backup camera input to connect a PC display. I was told when I got my '15 Golf in December that starting in 2018 backup cameras will be mandatory safety equipment. So that at least gives a video in to use.

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actually I think the computer that we would want would be the autodrive computer. Ofcourse once it is developed. I would imagine it would have to be quite powerful, and so long you are not driving, you might be able to 'divert the power' so to speak. (cpu power ofc)

But it hasn't even been developed yet, so who is to say what it can and cant do :D

None the less I think its pretty cool where technology is taking us :)

Somebody remembers these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooLO2xeyJZA
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I wouldn't crunch with my car as I don't run it 24/7.

<-My preferred car doesn't crunch either, it stomps..

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<-My preferred car doesn't crunch either, it stomps..

# When I get rubber in all four gears.

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I wouldn't crunch with my car as I don't run it 24/7.

if it's electric or plug-in hybrid...then you charge it in your garage, right?

so, why not run it? on idle or parked (charging)...

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At least some of car's computers use QNX RTOS that has POSIX subsystem and even has Intel compiler (ICC) for it. Also, GNU C supported. So, it should be possible to port current SETI apps there. The real issue is access to car's comp initialization scripts. That is, how to put own binary there.
Hardly it can be done w/o reflashing their OS image, that is, w/o changing firmware. That almost definitely will void any car's warranty and could make driving of such car even illegal (just imagine if breaks will be busy with VLAR computation ;D ;D ).
Much more promizing area IMHO is bankomates. There are thousands and thousands computerized devices, w/o real-time needs (instead of cars) that waste electricity to show silly advertizments while waiting someone to put credit card inside them (24/7 !! ). What a wasted computational power... But again, same issue - no easy way to put own binary there.

At least some of car's computers use QNX RTOS that has POSIX subsystem and even has Intel compiler (ICC) for it. Also, GNU C supported. So, it should be possible to port current SETI apps there. The real issue is access to car's comp initialization scripts. That is, how to put own binary there.
Hardly it can be done w/o reflashing their OS image, that is, w/o changing firmware. That almost definitely will void any car's warranty and could make driving of such car even illegal (just imagine if breaks will be busy with VLAR computation ;D ;D ).
Much more promizing area IMHO is bankomates. There are thousands and thousands computerized devices, w/o real-time needs (instead of cars) that waste electricity to show silly advertizments while waiting someone to put credit card inside them (24/7 !! ). What a wasted computational power... But again, same issue - no easy way to put own binary there.

Now you got an idea to some hacker! :D

Imagine one hacker slipping in bankomates & installing BOINC on them...a Robin Hood of hackers! :D

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I wouldn't crunch with my car as I don't run it 24/7.

if it's electric or plug-in hybrid...then you charge it in your garage, right?

so, why not run it? on idle or parked (charging)...

The place I'm staying at right now doesn't have a garage suitable for parking/charging so I park on the street.

I wouldn't crunch with my car as I don't run it 24/7.

if it's electric or plug-in hybrid...then you charge it in your garage, right?

so, why not run it? on idle or parked (charging)...

The place I'm staying at right now doesn't have a garage suitable for parking/charging so I park on the street.

A report 2-3 years ago stated something like 60% of US residents live in multi-family housing (condos, apartments, & the like) without access to a location to plug in an electric/hybrid car.
Of course with my old commute, of at least 2.5 hours each way, running something while driving would have been more practical. Now I may drive about 2.5 hours total a week commuting.

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