Hi there what other projects do you take part in ?

I'm running http://climateprediction.net and seti@home
as they both are intresting ideas.

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> Hi there what other projects do you take part in ?
>
> I'm running http://climateprediction.net and seti@home
> as they both are intresting ideas.
>

If you add the Berkeley Boinc site to your Favorites you will be able to see what project there are and what are coming.

Boinc site

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Anthony

I think that when Astropulse starts then I'll have 7

Regards to all.

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> LHC@home
Looks promising, I have alot of reading to do (:

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Seti and Climate Prediction, 50/50. I've thought about LHC, but decided that I didn't want to spread resources so thin. I'll link to another project if available data becomes thin on one of these.

S@H
Einstein
LHC
LHC Alpha (seems dead)
Pirates
Protein Predictor
CPDN
Beta (seems dead)
Alpha

Waiting to see if a new scheduler gets written that can handle all of these on a slower machine.

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S@H
GRID

attachend and running so far work to do:

Climate Prediction net
Seti@home
LHC@home
Pirates@home

> GRID

Hi there

Whats grid ?

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Hello
I just do the Tiny Key Counter project and Boinc Seti.

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> LHC
> LHC Alpha (seems dead)
>

Unless I'm mistaken (might be) these would be the same project, except the alpha would be an earlier test version. If that's the case, it would be why it would be dead, and you could perhaps get rid of this. Just a suggestion.

For myself I'm running SETI and folding (ok, yeah I know, not a boinc project...but waiting for predictor to open up for new account creation here)

Also waiting for Einstein@Home to open up for account creation

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> > LHC
> > LHC Alpha (seems dead)
> >
>
> Unless I'm mistaken (might be) these would be the same project, except the
> alpha would be an earlier test version. If that's the case, it would be why
> it would be dead, and you could perhaps get rid of this. Just a suggestion.
>
> For myself I'm running SETI and folding (ok, yeah I know, not a boinc
> project...but waiting for predictor to open up for new account creation here)
>
> Also waiting for Einstein@Home to open up for account creation
>
LHC Alpha gets versions to test for a while before they are put on the public site. They sometimes run in parallel, but I have not seen any work from LHC Alpha in over a month.

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> > > LHC
> > > LHC Alpha (seems dead)
> >
> LHC Alpha gets versions to test for a while before they are put on the public
> site. They sometimes run in parallel, but I have not seen any work from LHC
> Alpha in over a month.
>
Site also appears to be down at the moment, they were promising server upgrades starting Jan 2005, maybe this is happening ?

Willie

> > > > LHC
> > > > LHC Alpha (seems dead)
> > >
> > LHC Alpha gets versions to test for a while before they are put on the
> public
> > site. They sometimes run in parallel, but I have not seen any work from
> LHC
> > Alpha in over a month.
> >
> Site also appears to be down at the moment, they were promising server
> upgrades starting Jan 2005, maybe this is happening ?
>
> Willie
>
>
Hopefully this is going better than at Predictor.

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I've been pondering a while about joining a medical or biology project but have this niggling doubt in my head.

On a forum (I don't think related to BOINC) there was some discussion around a medical project where there may have been some occluded (unseen) economic benefits for certain supporting medical companies that provided such things as network backbone.

Now whilst I have no problem with business in general I would be unhappy being duped into feeling the results of any voluntary effort on my part were being siphoned off for the financial gain of a few companies and would not be made public in full.

Not sure whether this is an appropriate topic for this thread or whether a separate thread might be more useful and interesting but I'd appreciate other peoples insights into this question related to BOINC projects.

regards
cRunchy.
Got a New Avatar Pete :)

Each personn needs to take each project on its merits. Protein Predictor claims that it is strictly noon-profit and that any results will be public domain. They currently have closed enrollment, but it should reopen soon.

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It's a tough call to make. Someone, somwhere along the line is going to make money from these projects.

A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be able to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research they would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to be making money from a not-for-profit project.

Thouble is, how can we know who is using this public information or what they are using it for?? And how do we know they will not use it in a manner to get them the greatest profit...

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> A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be able
> to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research they
> would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to be
> making money from a not-for-profit project.

This I don't mind at all. If the data is open to all then there is less chance of development being stunted or held back for profits sake.

I do understand that the very nature of bussiness means that only certain people or bussinesses will have the finances and motive to use the data in a practical manner and that that by its nature can stunt development but its the "open to all" that interests me if I am going to put my private voluntary effort up for grabs.

I think on the other forums I got the feeling that there was a worry that even with an 'open to all' policy that data may not be immediatly available to all or that it was passed on to someone's idea of "relevant development projects" which could be a covert way of saying "those we select"..

I think I need to do a bit more reading of the individual projects using BOINC. Its not that I think there is any hidden agenda... It's just that where there is massive profit to be made (as there would be with a cure for some cancer for example) I want my tiny bit of effort to count for the greatest benefit to all..

Pete

> It's a tough call to make. Someone, somwhere along the line is going to make
> money from these projects.
>
> A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be able
> to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research they
> would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to be
> making money from a not-for-profit project.
>
> Thouble is, how can we know who is using this public information or what they
> are using it for?? And how do we know they will not use it in a manner to get
> them the greatest profit...

That would be called entreprenurealism (spelling?). To be able to take some data, look at it and say "hey thats interesting, maybe if i take what i know and put it with this new knowledge, then i can do something useful (read profitable)."

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>
> > A person/company may not make money directly from BOINC but they may be
> able
> > to use the public data publised by these projects to bypass some research
> they
> > would otherwise have to pay for. That in itself could be considered to
> be
> > making money from a not-for-profit project.
>
> This I don't mind at all. If the data is open to all then there is less chance
> of development being stunted or held back for profits sake.
>

I get your concern... Though if it's available to all, progress wouldn't be stunted, as some claim the oil companies are responsible for buying out/keeping alternative sources of power off the market.

Anyhow, as long as companies can't come back latter and lay exclusive claim to certain portions of data, not really concerned. Also, as the data is being crunched through (I gather) a university using certain research funding, and they might publish it themself...how much of a chance would they have to do this?

Oh, one thing I would have to add on the business model though...Linux (and open source development) has probably effected Microsoft more then they would have liked. Competing with free, can also be, well... Especially in the business space, some of the developments I've heard

- Oracle has made Linux it's officially supported platform for Oracle server. One can of course load it on other systems still, but as to support...

- Cisco has announced that it won't be porting all it's networking tools to Windows any longer

- Intel, IBM, and other corporate heavy weights on the hardware side of things are throwing some support Linux's way

- Liscensing 6.0 (and it's terms) have many corps dis-pleased, who also being a "for profit company" think about their bottom line when it comes to liscensing charges...

s'pose I should get back on topic though :D

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