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Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I thought it was entertaining and from what I have read on the subject fairly accurate. I'm sure glad I didn't live in 16th century England, or europe for that matter. Much like modern day Iraq and Iran, one could get their head lopped off for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. It's hard to imagine the degree of religious intolerance of the time in light of the freedoms we have today in most of the world. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Darth Beaver Send message Joined: 20 Aug 99 Posts: 6728 Credit: 21,443,075 RAC: 3 |
mm thanks Bob for the review i had seen the shorts for that , looked interesting When they keep to the period accurately you appreciate what we have . Iraq maybe there is a war . Iran no . It's not like Iraq . I wouldn't trust them but there not as mad as people think . As for lopping people's head off ! The Guillotine !! France !! ....now prob's with your own country's executions . At least it's quick . |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Swedish king Eric XIV sent probably this portrait as a proposal gift to Queen Elizabeth I of England. She was a Protestant, and Erik XIV and his father, Gustav Vasa. The queen was a powerful woman and a marriage with her would mean political and economic benefits for the king. Now we know that the Queen had little interest in the offer, but the portrait stayed long in the English possession. First, in the 1900s it came back to Sweden and now hangs at Gripsholm Castle in the National Portrait Gallery. The Stockholm Bloodbath, or the Stockholm massacre (Swedish: Stockholms blodbad, Danish: Det Stockholmske Blodbad), took place as the result of a successful invasion of Sweden by Danish forces under the command of King Christian II. The bloodbath itself was a series of events taking place between November 7 and November 9 in 1520, climaxing on the 8th, when around 80-90 people (mostly nobility and clergy supporting the Sture party) were executed, despite a promise by King Christian for general amnesty. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_Bloodbath |
Lynn Send message Joined: 20 Nov 00 Posts: 14162 Credit: 79,603,650 RAC: 123 |
Show fell apart after Anne Boleyn's head chopped of. Natalie Dormer, played Anne, she is now cast in "Game of Thrones". |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
They changed actresses for the part of Jane Seymour from season two to season three which confused me at first. I also kept waiting for Henry VIII to get plump. Regarding the church it has always seemed to me that the primary difference between the Roman Catholic Church and the Church of England is the Pope. I have never thought of the COE as protestant like the Lutheran or Presbyterian churches. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
They changed actresses for the part of Jane Seymour from season two to season three which confused me at first. I also kept waiting for Henry VIII to get plump. COE = Episcopalian in the US. Try going to a Lutheran service, then an Episcopalian (or vice versa). Then see if you say the same. |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
I have been to them all, at least once. Part of our church's preparation for being a member was to attend at least one service at a church of each of the major faiths, including a visit to a synagogue. The Episcopalian service as I recall was very similar to the Catholic service except there was no latin. We were all impressed that the rabbi got to sip from a glass of wine during his service. Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
I have been to them all, at least once. Part of our church's preparation for being a member was to attend at least one service at a church of each of the major faiths, including a visit to a synagogue. The Episcopalian service as I recall was very similar to the Catholic service except there was no latin. Do I recall correctly you were raised Lutheran? |
Bob DeWoody Send message Joined: 9 May 10 Posts: 3387 Credit: 4,182,900 RAC: 10 |
Nope, but sort of close. Presbyterian. (United) Bob DeWoody My motto: Never do today what you can put off until tomorrow as it may not be required. This no longer applies in light of current events. |
Sarge Send message Joined: 25 Aug 99 Posts: 12273 Credit: 8,569,109 RAC: 79 |
Nope, but sort of close. Presbyterian. (United) Then I think your perspective on similarities and differences varies. I'm not going to give the greatest analysis as it has been a long time since I studied it, plus I have no "dog in the fight" anymore, so to speak. The reasons for the COE = Anglican = Episcopalian in the US separating from Rome are, of course, not the same as those as Luther's or Calvin's. If I remembered more, I'd address whether they are completely different reasons, on the other hand. I was raised Lutheran. In the mid-70s to mid-80s, my church took part in many joint services with the nearest Episcopalian church. When it was at their church with their liturgy, there was much that was the same. Much that was word for word or only slight variations. Musically, close enough for little discomfort it seems. As for Presbyterians, there is a camp/"re-creation" center in JS' neck of the woods (mid way across the north side of the big lake with is not a great one) that is or was owned jointly by Lutherans and Presbyterians. I worked there two summers. Later, I dated a Presbyterian woman I had met there several years earlier. (It did not go well, but not because of religious beliefs, though, unknown to her, I was agnostic when we dated.) My terms may not be absolutely correct here, but call Catholicism "high church" as in highly ordered services and a great focus on that ... a ceremony. As Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists and Presbyterians were some of the first to separate from Rome, on average, most of it could be called middle church. I suspect, in many cases, the later the splinter (or when a splinter from a splinter), the further from Catholicism and each other it seems. The 4 above, and Catholicism? Probably most different of all is Calvinism. The rest and Catholicism? Though different, provably more zimilarities, in beliefs and practices than you suspected. |
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