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Message 1672556 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 13:03:14 UTC
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Soon I'll test if a GT730 (PCIe v2.0 x1 slot) card will work with my ASRock Q1900DC-ITX board.

Longer time I have no experiences with the NV drivers.
I stopped to upgrade (after benching the following drivers ;-) at v263.06, because it was best solution for CUDA + OpenCL SETI/AP apps on my PC (WinXP x86 + GTX285).

I looked at the NV driver site and found inter alia (Recommended/Beta: all):
GeForce 341.44 Driver WHQL - February 24, 2015
GeForce 340.52 Driver WHQL - July 29, 2014
GeForce 337.88 Driver WHQL - May 26, 2014

v337.88 was really the 1st NV driver for GT730 + Win8.1 x64 combi?
Or exist earlier drivers, but the site don't show them?
Which drivers were between the 1st and v337.88?

What does mean all the 'GeForce Game Ready Driver WHQL' - 'stuff' between the above mentioned drivers? *confused*
Yes, they have other version numbers, but they are just for gamers?
Just CUDA + OpenCL users should upgrade also with them?

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Message 1672684 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 18:31:17 UTC

Cuda is apart of the Nvidia driver (unless you get the stripped down version that MS abuses people with)
The Nvidia site recommendations are pretty good - just look for "WHQL", the rest is fairly meaningless, the "game ready" indicates that the driver has a few bits that are there to cope with particular games. The version I'm running most of my crunchers are from the 347.xx family, which are WHQL. The key thing is to match the version to the OS and the card. Given you are running a 64bit version of Windows you need a 64 bit version of the drivers, so that family would be my starting point.
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Message 1672790 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 21:49:34 UTC

I asked this above, because ...

On my PCs with WinXP x86 and pre-Fermi GPUs, the NV driver v190.38 was a very long time the best/fastest driver.
Then after SETI had the AP OpenCL apps released I need to stay at v263.06.
Every time best combi for my systems.

And always I saw others to upgrade their drivers. ;-)


So I ask me, maybe for my Win8.1 x64 and the GT730 combi, it's now ~similar?

I mean, maybe the first NV driver for my GT730 and Win8.1 x64 have the best performance ...?

So I would like to know all the drivers from the 1st to the last (current v350.12).
Maybe I do like in past bench test runs, for to find the fastest. ;-)

Thanks.


BTW. In past as I already knew all the driver versions (because I started with SETI simultaneously the NVidia GPU journey (IIRC, end 2008/beginning 2009)), and the NVidia site don't show all drivers from the beginning after some time (just the newest and the ~14 following), I could nevertheless download the old not longer shown drivers, because I changed the URLs (or filenames) of the current ones. ;-)
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Message 1672796 - Posted: 1 May 2015, 22:05:21 UTC

Driver 337.88 was released on 2014.05.26 & the GT 730 was released 2014.06.18. So it is likely the first driver to support the GT 730.

Since the GT 730 is just a rebanded GT 630. You might be able to use an older driver and update the .inf with the PNPID from the GT 730, but it looks like the GT 630 drivers only go back to 331.58.
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Message 1674078 - Posted: 5 May 2015, 6:38:22 UTC

Check out this:
http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/show_host_detail.php?hostid=7422266

I have a PCIe x8 on one server board...it uses 340 drivers!
Work just fine...didn't update, 'cause of some article on GPUgrid mentioning CUDA isn't right for calculations...


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Message 1677475 - Posted: 10 May 2015, 1:29:21 UTC
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Weekend, yeah, time for to mod the PCs. ;-)

I got the 1024MB ZOTAC GeForce GT 730,
installed a 40mm fan on the passive heatsink, the VGA card pushed in to my ASRock Q1900DC-ITX board (on the passive heatsink of the J1900 I have also installed a fan (92mm fan with help of a 60 to 92mm adaptor)).
If 24/7 full load, good cooling needed. ;-)


OK,
switched on the PC.
Win8.1 x64 boot up like every time. Desktop shown.
Nothing new, no message 'found new hardware, driver installation needed' or something similar (like in WinXP) ...

Opened Device Manager, Graphics Card info is already open, there is the Intel iGPU, and a 'Windows Basic Display Device' (or something similar) (so I thought this Windows 'thing' is the new GT730?).
Opened properties, a Windows driver of 2006 (IIRC) installed.

I thought OK, maybe just an 'emergency plan' driver, or something.
Like in WinXP, I gone to the driver .exe and started the driver v337.88 installation ...
After a few minutes, I get a message (something like) 'no NVidia device found, installation aborted'.

I went again back to the Device Manager, properties of the 'Windows Basic Display Device' (or something similar), pressed 'driver update'.
There I could choose the path to the (unzipped) driver folder.
Windows said after a few seconds then (something like) 'the current installed driver is the best choice - no update needed'.

Then I looked to the Device Manager again, and I saw now a 'NV GT730', instead of this 'Windows Basic Display Device'.
Click to properties, and see NV driver v347.52 installed ... - what?
I have on HDD the v341.44, v340.52 and v337.88 driver (downloaded and prepared).
From where comes the v347.52 driver?
I clicked not to the search the web for new drivers.
I have just DSL2000, and Windows searched just a few seconds for new drivers (I thought just on HDD), in this time a ~300MB file couldn't be downloaded.
Windows downloaded from the Windows website a few small files?
Programs and Features, I see: NVIDIA 3D Vision Driver 347.52, NVIDIA Display Driver 347.52 and NVIDIA Update 10.4.0 (no infos about the size). (I can't remember that I installed this ;-)
So Windows downloaded this files (although I said, search the HDD (not the web))? *strange*

OK, I uninstalled this three programs.
Then I started again the downloaded v337.88 driver .exe.
After some time, I get again the same message (something like) 'no NVidia device found, installation aborted'.

OK, back to Device Manager, properties of this 'Windows Basic Display Device', update drivers, now I choose the 'search also the web to new drivers', after short time 'the current installed driver is the best choice - no update needed'.
Looked again to Device Manager and there is again the 'NV GT730' instead of the 'Windows Basic Display Device'.

So finally, Windows downloaded the later installed 3 files, although I said, no 'web' ...? *strange*
Or from where comes this files?

AFAIK, if I want to install an other NV driver, I must uninstall the current one before. But, I can't do this, because then the NV driver .exe will not find a NV device (like I wrote above).
So I can't let run the v337.88 driver .exe now, because it's an older driver and maybe will screw up all?
If I would like to install the newest one v350.12, I could let run now the NV driver .exe, and will not screw up everything?


BTW, the NV v347.52 (stripped down?) driver would be a good choice for just CUDA and OpenCL (not playing games)?

I let run the Lunatics_x41zc_win32_cuda50.exe.
If I look to GPU-Z, I see:
78% GPU Load
80% Memory Controller Load
So I can let run 2 tasks simultaneously?
I did and saw:
99% GPU Load
100% Memory Controller Load

So I should let run 2 SETI CUDA tasks simultaneously on a GT730 (BTW, it a Kepler chip)?

What will be with AP, also 2 tasks simultaneously?

Thanks that you have persevered up to here. ;-)

Thanks.
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Message 1677490 - Posted: 10 May 2015, 2:00:21 UTC - in response to Message 1677475.  
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BTW, the screen is connected like before just to the Intel iGPU (BIOS, primary VGA 'onboard').
At the NV GT730 nothing connected.

Mabye the above would have gone differently, if I would had installed the screen to the NV GT730 or had used a VGA dummy plug?
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Message 1678118 - Posted: 11 May 2015, 5:56:16 UTC

put the dummy in GT730.
also, GT730 is just rebranded GT630!

mine is ASUS version iwth 2GB...cost 65€ new!


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