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Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
I would feel terrible for any woman who felt she had to go through a late abortion. She must have good reason. I suspect its not as painful as actual childbirth though. I hear an early abortion is relatively quick and painless, however, you will get cramping afterwards for a while. I do know someone who was forced to give up her baby for adoption and I think that was the worst thing of all, even though she felt is was the best for the baby. That was her choice, but I don't think she ever got over it. No one does any of things unless they have to. Mamograms are uncomfortable and I hate pap smears. Of course the people making the laws have absolutely no idea about any of this and seem to think women go for for these things for sh*ts and giggles. Reality Internet Personality |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
The ugly reality of fundamentalist religious thinking is that women are chattel and unborn are slaves to exploit for money. Thus it was when the book was written, thus it shall ever be. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
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janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
LETTER TO Global Partnership for Education Please lead the way on 12 years of primary and secondary schooling for girls no matter where they live through committing to mobilise the money necessary to achieve it. https://www.change.org/p/stand-withmalala-for-girls-education-6?tk=jLpjDS9zAxY91d70wZHxzaBy2Xkujg-AjQ5ZPCn-7yk&utm_source=petition_update&utm_medium=email |
Gary Charpentier Send message Joined: 25 Dec 00 Posts: 30640 Credit: 53,134,872 RAC: 32 |
LETTER TO Soylent Green is people. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
LETTER TO Dont you want to feel good Clyde? Educution is perhaps the only way to stop the Extremist Muslims. History has shown that education and stopping poverty are stopping Extremists. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
LETTER TO History has also shown that empowering women through access to education and work has a positive effect on stopping extremism and violence. Why do you think that groups like the Taliban and Boko Haram feel so threatened by the mere idea of educated women? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Clyde dont be so negative. The world has become a much better place to live in. Especially the last 70 years. And that's a fact:) |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Educate women, who are basically slaves? 'They' will kill them. You mean to say, they will "try" to kill them. Trying does not equal succeeding. They tried to kill Malala Yousafzai, and they failed. Now look what she is doing, what an impact she has had on the world already. And clearly not everyone there thinks women are slaves or should be treated as slaves. Clearly Malala's father thought it was vital that his daughter got an education. And like him, there are many more fathers who want their daughter to go to school. Does anyone understand 'They' believe it is their duty (from God?) to educate you. By whatever force is necessary. And they can only do that when their target population doesn't know any better. Their toxic ideas can only flourish in areas where ignorance reigns supreme. The simple fact that a woman can tell them they are acting like idiots, even if that is dangerous for the woman to say, means she is resisting their backwardness. Education arms women against oppression, and even it will kill some of them, they at least have a chance to resist. And eventually, they will win because groups like the Taliban, Boko Haram, ISIS or even the Nazis are fighting against the progression of time itself. Its a fight that will inevitably grind them down and stomps over them. And again, we have practical evidence that educating women, empowering them through knowledge, has a positive and stabilizing effect on society. Women are far better at being peacemakers than men and armies are. How does one 'educate' Nazis? When has 'Education' stopped the advance of evil? You don't educate Nazis, you educate their children and everyone around them, so they won't become Nazis. That cuts them off, puts them in an environment where everyone around them is inoculated against their ideas and as a result their ideas won't spread. Here is a study that supports this idea. Here is a study that shows that educated women leads to more economic prosperity and a decline in birthrates. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Clyde dont be so negative. Thats rather illogical. If house fires are down from 100 house fires a year to 25 house fires a year, I could of course ask one of the 25 people whose house burned down what they feel about house fires. And obviously their experience probably won't match the statistical fact that house fires are down 75%. Does that mean that the house fires are down with 75% is incorrect because I asked someone whose house burned down? Even now, with all thats going on in Syria, with IS and Boko Haram and the Taliban, its a statistical fact that there is less conflict and that the conflicts are less deadly than a few decades ago. Does that diminish the fact that whoever is trapped in a conflict is living through some horror? No of course not. But does that mean we should only ask them whats going on in the world, and just ignore the facts and the feedback of experts that are telling us what works and what doesn't ? |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ask those being raped, murdered, and enslaved under the Expanding Jihadists. They are not expanding AFAIK. Anyway. Daesh, Jihadists, Talibans, Boko Haram and others are a small minority in the muslim world. But they are very dangerous... Calling it a holy war is like mocking humanity. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
Ask those being raped, murdered, and enslaved under the Expanding Jihadists. I dont think so. There are probably more nazis today in Europe then it was in the 30's. Sweden has about 20% nationalists in the population now!!! And there are Nazis in the US as well... |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Your problem is that you are so fixated on the idea that only brute force can accomplish anything that you are blind to any suggestion that there are more options. In this case, it has also blinded you to the difference between PREVENTING a problem and ENDING a problem. Furthermore, you are talking about Nazi Germany, which is immutable history. I suppose that is also immediately the problem of your argument. You equate Jihadists with Nazis and because the Nazis are at this point immutable history you essentially suggest that Jihadism are part of equally immutable history and therefor the solution lies in following the same pattern as with Nazism. I however, reject your comparison. Jihadism and Nazism are two completely different things, comparing them is pointless and basing an argument on that comparison is flawed. Finally, I also want to point out that I never claimed we can beat the Jihadist without using any kind of force whatsoever. What I am saying that in a lot of places, we can prevent Jihadists from getting a foothold by educating people, in particular women. |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
The Nazis were a majority within Europe? Not really. But you don't need to be in the majority to keep people in line with violence. At least not for a little while. In the long term, their occupation would have been unsustainable. But well, who wants to find out what Europe would have looked like after 15 years of Nazi occupation, rather than 5/6 years. |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
we can prevent Jihadists from getting a foothold by educating people, in particular women. Douze points aux Pays-Bas:) |
janneseti Send message Joined: 14 Oct 09 Posts: 14106 Credit: 655,366 RAC: 0 |
On Thursday, September 24th stand with Nobel Peace Prize winner Malala Yousafzai and raise your voice in a Twitter rally to support her global petition to the Global Partnership for Education, asking that they fund a full 12 years of education for girls around the world. While leaders at the United Nations meet to discuss a new set of global goals, you can join hundreds of thousands of people from around the world tweeting their support for every girl’s right to go to school. https://www.facebook.com/events/877445582337769/ |
Мишель Send message Joined: 26 Nov 13 Posts: 3073 Credit: 87,868 RAC: 0 |
Мишель... Yes, in part. Education can help prevent locals from supporting groups who use brute force like that. It can give them the intellectual capacity to see how morally and intellectually bankrupt these groups are. It will help them form a realistic and intellectual counter response against the terror of such groups, in some cases even to the point that populations start to actively resist these groups presence on their territory. And while it might still require brute force to eventually evict these groups from their territory, the better educated the people are, the easier it will be as the less support such brute force groups will have in that territory. Military strategy 101: the success of any occupational force will depend largely on how good the relations are with the local population. The more such groups have to rely on brute force to remain in control of the occupied territory, the easier it will be for other to evict them from that territory. And an educated population will force intellectually empty groups like IS or the Taliban or even the Nazis to rely on brute force to remain in control. Really, the use and effectiveness of education against fighting extremists groups has been well studied. You arguing against its use is really just you arguing against well established facts. Your reliance on empty overwhelming brute force however does fit nicely with current American military doctrine. A doctrine I should add, that has lost you literally every war against insurgents ever. |
Sirius B Send message Joined: 26 Dec 00 Posts: 24879 Credit: 3,081,182 RAC: 7 |
So the fact that their senior commanders as well as many of the foreigners joining them are highly educated escaped you? Hitting on the Yanks again I see... ...tell us all, WHAT was NATO forces doing in Afghanistan? Did that escape your notice as well? |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Yes, in part. Education can help prevent locals from supporting groups who use brute force like that. There are loads of organisations that send volunteer teachers abroad. Here is an organisation that helps set up schools and train teachers in Afghanistan: Canadian Women for Women in Afghanistan Reality Internet Personality |
Es99 Send message Joined: 23 Aug 05 Posts: 10874 Credit: 350,402 RAC: 0 |
Yes, in part. Education can help prevent locals from supporting groups who use brute force like that. Which areas? Because there are volunteers all over the world. Reality Internet Personality |
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