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Message 1684045 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:28:36 UTC - in response to Message 1684039.  
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the women were sex objects (many times).

In every show women where sex objects.
But I only remember the silly tune when Benny chased women:)
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Message 1684050 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:42:07 UTC - in response to Message 1684040.  

Maybe, but you do have to give her kudos - to stop, get out, give the cops the "bird" get back in & drive off. She did as she pleased :-)

However, it cost her! WAS IT WORTH IT?
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Message 1684052 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:43:33 UTC - in response to Message 1684050.  

Maybe, but you do have to give her kudos - to stop, get out, give the cops the "bird" get back in & drive off. She did as she pleased :-)
However, it cost her! WAS IT WORTH IT?

Her?
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Message 1684054 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:45:06 UTC - in response to Message 1684052.  
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Look again. Near the end one of the cops looked into the rear of the vehicle - at a guess, that was to make sure there were no kids in there.
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Message 1684056 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:48:09 UTC - in response to Message 1684017.  
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For the past few months there have been some interesting & serious questions asked on this board.

They remain unanswered, instead just as this thread has shown by the last dozen or so posts, they get by-passed. However, I'm going to ask this one again - I'll take odds it never gets answered!

I think women should be allowed to do as they damm well please

Fair point, but at what cost?

Sorry, I did your see your question, but didn't think you were serious. I am quite sure you knew that I wouldn't support anyone behaving in a way that hurts others.

I shall add the qualifier I should have added at the time.

"I think women should be allowed to do as they damm well please in the context of this discussion where we are talking about cosmetic surgery and how they dress".

Home that clears up our miscommunication.
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Message 1684060 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 15:57:20 UTC - in response to Message 1684055.  

Maybe, but you do have to give her kudos - to stop, get out, give the cops the "bird" get back in & drive off. She did as she pleased :-)

However, it cost her! WAS IT WORTH IT?

Never is.

As every adult instructed us, many decades ago:

Do what the Cops say. If you didn't, they would say (with much truth):

"Are you stupid, or something".

Have to agree with that. I made that mistake just once. Weigh station not far from Downham Market, got stopped by a VOSA employee accompanied by a female cop.

Q: Are you loaded?
A: No, empty returning home.
Q: Can you pull into the station please?
A: Why? I'm empty.

VOSA employee says nothing but looks at cop - Cop asks me the same question & got the same answers

Final Q from cop, please pull into station or I will arrest you. I entered station.

Why did I object? Because weighing stations are to check for overloaded vehicles. Just what was the point in weighing an empty vehicle (take into consideration that if station busy, one could be there several hours).

It didn't end there. At the station waiting my turn, same cop comes up to me & lays into me verbally. Actually came out & accused me of being offensive to women & did I object to female police officers. I still do not know to this day how my answers inferred that.

Now all I do is "yes sir no sir 3 bags full sir & fail to tell them I have onboard cameras running.
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Message 1684062 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 16:12:13 UTC - in response to Message 1684060.  
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My encounters with female police officers have Always been good.
I have even met some in private.
However male police officers in their 30's looking for some action in Town...
Only seen one female police "officer" on TV beating the crap of a intoxicated person from Norrland in Stockholm.
Swedish police brutality 2013-07-12.
PG +25 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-T05iSfRqL4
He is even begging for forgiveness...

Do you want some more?
Swedish Police and Security Guards ganking pedestrian for not showing the bag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uHrnD551pE
A Swedish Police officer tells the person from Scotland that are recording the abuse to stop filming.!!!!!!
The guy that are lying on the ground are from the middle east.

First 2 "security" guards, then 2 "volanteers", then 2 police "officers", then 2 more police "officers" saying "No more filming" documenting the crime against ONE person lying on the ground!
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Message 1684063 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 16:12:44 UTC - in response to Message 1684017.  

For the past few months there have been some interesting & serious questions asked on this board.

They remain unanswered, instead just as this thread has shown by the last dozen or so posts, they get by-passed. However, I'm going to ask this one again - I'll take odds it never gets answered!

I think women should be allowed to do as they damm well please

Fair point, but at what cost?


Sirius, I made several attempts to answer your post about the story of the family, but it was so complicated I gave up. My first concern was about your safety and I couldn't connect this to women doing as they pleased.

I see now that Es has clarified her statement.
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Message 1684065 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 16:17:10 UTC - in response to Message 1684056.  

Thanks Es. I hope I did not come across as contentious. I agree with your clarification. Both men & women should be able to do as they please - however, they should also accept the consequences should any arise from pleasing themselves.

One good thing has came from the situation here. The daughter said when she left here that if any problems getting her mum home, she'll do as I advised, stop off here for a coffee & relax, then go home.

She never came back so assumed all okay. Unfortunately yesterday afternoon she visited. Shortly after leaving here she tried to get her mother to come home. The mother screamed at her & called the police to have her removed from her boyfriend's home.

Not all police are bad as portrayed in other threads. They asked the daughter what was wrong & they called her Social Services support worker who came up from her home - took her home for the night & drove her home in the afternoon. Sadly her mother called the police again, this time to have her daughter removed from her home.

Before leaving she stopped off here & the social worker hugged me for making that lovely girl's mind up in taking the action that she as well as others have been telling her for months. Personally I found that to be a wonderful relief as that young girl with all that she has experienced had her head on straight.

The best news that the area had was this morning. Due to her mothers stupidity in calling the police that night, the following morning two police vans arrived & raided the druggies home. Report sent to local council. That's him evicted for moving in with that girl's mother & sub-letting his home.

I think my main problem is that over the last decade being at grass roots level, see too much of this, which is why I posted that question.

Personally I think it is a very valid question in today's society & needs to be asked regardless of any "sexist" claims.
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Message 1684066 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 16:21:48 UTC - in response to Message 1684063.  

Thanks Hev. please take my word for it, I'm perfectly safe. I'm going to say something here & I don't give a rat's ass what the "so called" alpha males on here may say or think.

I owe that young girl a debt of gratitude that I hope I can repay one day. That mother of hers is a warm hearted bubbly character & over the course of those two years...

...with what occurred last week & over the past 2 days shows that even with those nice attributes she is 5 cans short of a 6 pack.

If people want to label me sexist for that, more fool them.
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Message 1684082 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 17:02:18 UTC - in response to Message 1684050.  

Maybe, but you do have to give her kudos - to stop, get out, give the cops the "bird" get back in & drive off. She did as she pleased :-)

However, it cost her! WAS IT WORTH IT?

Only she can answer that. Unfortunately, for many the answer is yes.
http://abclocal.go.com/story?section=news/local/orange_county&id=6754459


To society, somehow I doubt that society will ever be repaid for the cost of all the policing and subsequent court and incarceration costs.
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Message 1684110 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 18:48:33 UTC

Lets just clear up an insulting myth that keeps getting bandied about in this thread.

Non-feminist 'more hostile' towards men than feminists, study finds

"...an explanation for the man-hating myth could be that our culture is so overly focused on men, and male-privilege is so deeply entrenched, that when feminists criticise the status quo it's read as being anti-men rather than addressing the marginalisation and oppression of women."

So do remember that I am criticising sexism and the patriarchy. NOT individual men. When you accuse me of hating men, when I clearly do not, I strongly suspect it is because you like the power that the patriarchy gives you and you think that giving women equality threatens that power.

We have discussed time and time again in this thread how subconscious behaviours reinforce sexism and support this power imbalance. We have discussed the very real negative impacts these have on women. We have discussed micro-agressions and macro-agressions. We have discussed the actual experience of real women. We have suggested ways in which you can change your behaviour to make things better. Asking you to change your behaviour in small ways that can make a real difference does not mean we hate you. We just want things to be better for everyone.

So before you accuse a feminist of hating men, remember this study:

"What they found was that feminists reported less hostility towards men than non-feminists. In effect, not only does this suggest the stereotype is not true, it's actually the reverse."

Every time I hear the accusation that I hate men just because I want people to not be sexist, I judge those people. I judge them of liking the way things are even though they have been told time and time again that half of the population does not. I judge them as not taking seriously the suggestions and views of women. Which means, basically, I judge them as being sexist.
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Message 1684131 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 19:40:01 UTC - in response to Message 1684125.  

When people such as yourself stop posting political B/S & provide your own personal views once in a while.
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Message 1684133 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 19:45:22 UTC - in response to Message 1684110.  

Just because I'm curious,
A Jess McCabe is the author of the article. Checking for her CV, returns the only item is for writing in the trade architectural field.

She did not link the study. Finding the study wasn't too hard. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x/citedby However I see that there no references that this study has been cited by other papers. Unfortunately the abstract does not indicate who peer reviewed it, if in fact it was even reviewed.

The free links being exhausted .....
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Message 1684146 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 20:20:35 UTC - in response to Message 1684139.  

When people such as yourself stop posting political B/S & provide your own personal views once in a while.

Sirius B...

Very mature. As always.

Haven't heard your attitude, since I was 16. Well maybe 18.

I do welcome your silliness. It is a necessary break, in this important discussion.

As an answer to your question: When The Left, as The Right, posts their B/S. I just point it out.

What exactly is your problem, when the foundation of your 'thinking' is shown to be totally....?

Just show why there is a God, or your Ideology (Same thing), is correct.

Of course you cannot. Therefore you, as an Ideologue, as Religious Fanatics also do, degenerate to name calling. As most of your posts display.

But you are interesting. In a weird sort of way.

Give it up Clyde - you have often mentioned others losing the argument when the name calling begins.

Tell me Clyde, just what is "Religious Fanatics"?

So you are a robot with no personal views? You just obeyed "the man's orders" is that it?
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Message 1684179 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 21:45:10 UTC - in response to Message 1684133.  

Just because I'm curious,
A Jess McCabe is the author of the article. Checking for her CV, returns the only item is for writing in the trade architectural field.

She did not link the study. Finding the study wasn't too hard. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1471-6402.2009.01491.x/citedby However I see that there no references that this study has been cited by other papers. Unfortunately the abstract does not indicate who peer reviewed it, if in fact it was even reviewed.

The free links being exhausted .....

I do have university access.

Kristin J. Anderson, Melinda Kanner and Nisreen Elsayegh

Abstract

Despite the popular belief that feminists dislike men, few studies have actually examined the empirical accuracy of this stereotype. The present study examined self-identified feminists' and nonfeminists' attitudes toward men. An ethnically diverse sample (N = 488) of college students responded to statements from the Ambivalence toward Men Inventory (AMI; Glick & Fiske, 1999). Contrary to popular beliefs, feminists reported lower levels of hostility toward men than did nonfeminists. The persistence of the myth of the man-hating feminist is explored.

Received June 12, 2008.
Revision received July 20, 2008.
Accepted May 7, 2007.


Articles citing this article:
Toward a Constructionist Perspective of Examining Femininity Experience: The Development and Psychometric Properties of the Subjective Femininity Stress Scale
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2014 38: 275-291

She Loves Him, She Loves Him Not: Attachment Style as a Predictor of Women's Ambivalent Sexism Toward Men
Psychology of Women Quarterly December 1, 2013 37: 507-518

The Masculinity of Mr. Right: Feminist Identity and Heterosexual Women's Ideal Romantic Partners
Psychology of Women Quarterly June 1, 2011 35: 318-326


Regarding the Psychology of Women Quarterly:

"Psychology of Women Quarterly (PWQ) is a feminist, scientific, peer-reviewed journal that publishes empirical research, critical reviews and theoretical articles that advance a field of inquiry, brief reports on timely topics, teaching briefs, and invited book reviews related to the psychology of women and gender. Topics include (but are not limited to) feminist approaches, methodologies, and critiques; violence against women; body image and objectification; sexism, stereotyping, and discrimination; intersectionality of gender with other social locations (such as age, ability status, class, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation); international concerns; lifespan development and change; physical and mental well being; therapeutic interventions; sexuality; social activism; and career development.

This journal will be of interest to clinicians, faculty, and researchers in all psychology disciplines, as well as those interested in the sociology of gender, women’s studies, interpersonal violence, ethnic and multicultural studies, social advocates, policy makers, and teacher education."

So yes, peer reviewed.

I also downloaded a copy for my reading. Anything else you wanted to know?
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Message 1684212 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 22:24:36 UTC - in response to Message 1684125.  

Now the Left, after decades of promoting the lie of ...isms upon the majority of Individual Whites and Males.

Left and Right:)
Since I'm not English spoken.
The right people are Always right, right?
The countries that drives on the left side like Britain, India, (Australia?) are always wrong, right?

Now I'm really confused...
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Message 1684225 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:03:37 UTC - in response to Message 1684179.  

Yes, there are.

First, I see that is has only been cited in other articles in the same publication. How many other publications are there in this field?

Aside, interesting that Wiley isn't updating the citations any more.

When and where was the data collected?

Last, as Wiley owned it when the article was published and Sage owns it today, any changes to the peer review process from when Wiley owned it? Or perhaps, what was Wiley's review process? Who were the reviewers?
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Message 1684240 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:24:38 UTC - in response to Message 1684233.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down. Any child can understand that, and many do.

OK:) But what is up and down in Australia?
Maybe we all like symmetry. Like woman and man.
But hang on. What about the new gender "other"?
I have seen it in some websites.

Life is very confusing....
So many countries. So many Cultures. So many opinions.
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Message 1684251 - Posted: 25 May 2015, 23:38:44 UTC - in response to Message 1684244.  

Up is Up, and Down is Down.
Righty tighty, Lefty loosey.
Left is never Right.
So Left is Wrong, and Left is Bad.
Any child can understand that, and many do.

I do.
Oh oh.

And we are old.
VERY old:)
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